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9/11 Miniseries is Bunk
Los Angeles Times ^ | 9/08/06 | Barbara Bodine

Posted on 09/11/2006 7:41:28 PM PDT by texas_mrs

ON THE MORNING of Sept. 11, 2001, Americans — and the world — froze, saddened and angry. Five years later, we stop to remember those we lost and those who have sacrificed in our defense since, and to reflect on what we must learn. History will define us not by the events of that day but by who we choose to become as a result.

Regrettably, ABC has chosen not to document but to dramatize this most critical of times. Its miniseries, "The Path to 9/11," opts for fiction when fact is needed and chooses mythmaking when the candor of history is called for. The 9/11 commission report tells the story with clear-eyed honesty, precision and studious impartiality. The ABC drama does not. The 9/11 commission spent hours interviewing virtually everyone connected not just with the events of that day but those involved in counter-terrorism over 25 years — Republican as well as Democrat. ABC did not.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: barbarabodine; blamethedeadguy; bodine; boobsonparade; clintonfailures; clintonistas; clintonlegacy; clintonscandals; feminazis; miniseries; pathto911; radicalleftists; revisionisthistory; statedeptmafia; waronterror
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To: texas_mrs
Barbara Bodine has blood on her hands.

How does she sleep at night?
41 posted on 09/11/2006 7:57:42 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Just heard Shrilary being interviewed on tv...She said Ya-Know about every 4rth word! We got her. She cant talk..When she's lying she says Ya-Know, which is all the time. Pass it on. Ya-Know!


42 posted on 09/11/2006 7:57:57 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: shankbear

RE: Post #9 - I like your style.


43 posted on 09/11/2006 8:00:10 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: texas_mrs

I'm waiting to hear some enumeration of just WHAT was/were the horrible lies told by the TPT911. I'd really like to hear what was inaccurate, and what the "truth" was. Let's see...Clinton wasn't a no-show in the larval war on terror because of Monica...he did nothing for much more serious reasons. His legacy? Too busy selling missile tech top the ChiComs? Sax lessons? Had to collect a whopper campaign contribution? Or...there was a damn good reason why Sandy Berger couldn't give approval for the OBL hit....LIKE WHAT? What was the excuse? Didn't have the right asortment of merit badges, wasn't an Eagle scout yet? Had to get his car fixed? How about Maddy? Conflict with her facelift schedule? Notice NONE of the howling of the dems lists what alleged lies are lies? Or, as I suspect they'd say "IT'S ALL LIES!!!" "It's all deny deny equivocate fudge deny change subject deny obfuscate fudge deny hey looky over here ever seen one of these?"

FWIW, I thought the show was pretty damn decent.


44 posted on 09/11/2006 8:00:11 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (You're never more than a half-step away from a good note.)
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To: texas_mrs
bodineBarbara Bodine, Queen of Baghdad.
CNN reports that the postwar Iraq state will be governed by none other than terrorists' friend and former ambassador to Yemen Barbara Bodine:
A central sector, including Baghdad, will be administered by Barbara Bodine, a former U.S. ambassador to Yemen, the sources said. She served in that post in October 2000, when the destroyer USS Cole was bombed in Aden harbor.
Barbara was central to defeating the FBI's counterterrorism investigation of the USS Cole bombing in Yemen while she was ambassador there as reported by PBS Frontline.

That investigation was headed by John O'Neill, the maverick FBI counterterrorism expert who was forced out of the bureau in August 2001 because he wouldn't act appropriately worshipful of his inept superiors like interim FBI director Tom Pickard. O'Neill had the names of two of the hijackers who flew into the Pentagon on his desk one month before 9-11, when he was kicked out the FBI door. He subsequently took a job which turned out to be his last — John O'Neill died in the attack on his new employer, the World Trade Center in New York City.

Barbara Bodine, the new Queen of Baghdad, is ironically enough the same person who forced O'Neill out of Yemen in 2001 as he tried to connect the Al-Qaeda dots back to Osama bin Laden, who had known ties to Yemen and who is not now, and never was, Iraqi.

Barbara Bodine is a harbinger of death. She stymied the USS Cole investigation, and helped to prevent the one man who was figuring out Osama bin Laden's real story from acting effectively. Her presence in the scheme for postwar Baghdad expands the arguments about incompetence and deception as basic principles of Bush foreign policy.

Thanks to American Samizdat for the link.
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45 posted on 09/11/2006 8:00:51 PM PDT by plenipotentiary
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To: GianniV
Did 'Nightline' ask Gorelick why the FBI couldn't search Moussaui's laptop?

Funny stuff from the 9/11 Commission Report...

There was substantial disagreement between Minneapolis agents and FBI headquarters as to what Moussaoui was planning to do. In one conversation between a Minneapolis supervisor and a headquarters agent, the latter com= plained that Minneapolis’s FISA request was couched in a manner intended to get people “spun up.”The supervisor replied that was precisely his intent. He said he was “trying to keep someone from taking a plane and crashing into the World Trade Center.” The headquarters agent replied that this was not going to happen and that they did not know if Moussaoui was a terrorist.101
46 posted on 09/11/2006 8:00:58 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: texas_mrs

Poor Barbara Bodine and the rest of her left, Hate-America US State Department ilk

got slaughtered BY THEIR VERY OWN ABC.

The 9-11 ABC movie was a disaster for the Clintons.

That's why they reacted so hard .

Poor Bill and his fellow lefties----

clobbered by their own ABCTV.


47 posted on 09/11/2006 8:01:56 PM PDT by sandra_789 (.)
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To: texas_mrs
YEP! It's the very same BITCH, alright, the one who obstructed the investigation of the Cole bombing.
By Barbara Bodine, BARBARA BODINE was U.S. ambassador to Yemen from 1997-2001. She is a visiting scholar at MIT's Center for International Studies.

For an even more complete account of this BITCH's digusting performance (AND that of the weenies at The State Department, and the "higher ups" at the FBI for that matter) than provided in Path, here is the relevant section from the script to PBS's Frontline documentary about O'Neil, "The Man Who Knew":

O'Neill had his agents paying attention to American embassies, especially in Jordan and Saudi Arabia, and U.S. military targets because an Egyptian informant had told them an American warship would be hit by Al Qaeda.

Then, on October 12th, 2000, Al Qaeda struck. The guided missile destroyer USS Cole was the target of a suicide mission. Seventeen sailors died.

BARRY MAWN, Director FBI NYC '00-'02: John came to me and said "It's Al Qaeda," and I totally agreed with him. And he said, "You got to get to the director, and we got to get this so the New York office responds initially.''

NARRATOR: At headquarters, down in the SIOC, there was once again strong resistance to the idea of sending O'Neill and his crew from New York to Yemen. It took hours for Barry Mawn to convince Director Freeh to let New York take the lead and to authorize O'Neill as the on-scene commander.

INTERVIEWER: Washington Headquarters of the FBI happy that O'Neill was going?

BARRY MAWN: My recollection is that I got questioned on it. "Is John the best guy to send?" And I had no hesitancy and said, "Absolutely, he's the best guy to send."

INTERVIEWER: Why would they have said that?

BARRY MAWN: Well, again, I think it kind of goes back to a little bit of the history John had with some of the folks back there, that there was probably some questioning as, "Well, do we want to send O'Neill?" And "He does have sharp elbows" or "His style may be -- " they were concerned that he wasn't the best guy to go, and that you needed someone more of a diplomat to -- in my view, to a certain extent, is when you have a major incident like that, you really don't need a diplomat at that particular point in time. You need somebody that knows what to do and is going to do it and get it done.

NARRATOR: Headquarters gave in to Mawn. This time, O'Neill was named on-scene commander in charge of the Yemen investigation.

FRAN TOWNSEND: And he was like a kid. He couldn't have been any more excited. I can remember him leaving the office to go to his apartment to pack a bag to go. And he was so pleased. He said, "This is it for me." You know, "I needed this. I needed this." And in some ways, he believed it was a vindication of him, and that the bag incident wasn't that important, because if it had been that important, they wouldn't have sent him, if the bureau thought it was that important.

NARRATOR: O'Neill and the members of his rapid deployment team immediately headed for Yemen. O'Neill knew time was of the essence. The Al Qaeda attacks had been coming more frequently.

CHRIS ISHAM: This was a case that he was really pushing hard on, that he understood that this wasn't just a venue where they set off a bomb, that there were connections between Yemen and east Africa, and Yemen and Afghanistan, and Yemen and Europe, and that there were -- this was very much of an important operational base for these guys, and that if he could illuminate that base, that he could begin to really put a dent in this network.

NARRATOR: But when he got to Yemen, O'Neill discovered how hard his task was going to be.

MICHAEL DORSEY, Naval Criminal Investigative Service: It's much like living in a 14th-century or a 15th-century country, listening to sporadic gunfire from AK-47s. And certainly, Yemen was bin Laden's back yard. That's where he was from. That's where his family is from. That's where he lived. And we recognized that. It was very difficult to get information out of the Yemeni security forces to actually cooperate with us initially. They were suspect of the U.S. government being in their territory and what our ultimate purposes were.

FRAN TOWNSEND: They're in impossible conditions, the agents. They don't have anyplace to sleep. He's got agents sleeping on the floor. They're working ridiculous hours. It's hot as all get-out. And you're in an impossible -- and it's in a hostile environment.

MICHAEL DORSEY: We had to move in caravans from the hotel out to the Cole, or from the hotel to some of the sites where we believed the terrorists and their support network had been. And those were in caravans of NCIS-FBI personnel, all armed, surrounded by Yemeni security force personnel. So these caravans would be 8, 10, 12 cars long. It was certainly announcing our presence. Any time we went somewhere, everybody in that city knew who we were and where we were going. And it gave us an uneasy feeling.

NARRATOR: To protect the hundreds of investigators on the ground, O'Neill and American military commanders wanted to show the Yemenis a forceful presence -- guns ready, perimeters established. But much to O'Neill's surprise, that approach quickly angered the American ambassador, Barbara Bodine, who felt his actions were harming U.S.-Yemeni government relations.

RICHARD CLARKE, NSC Chief of Counterterrorism '92-'01: You had an ambassador who wanted to be fully in control of everything that every American official did in the country and resented the fact that suddenly there were hundreds of FBI personnel in the country and only a handful of State Department personnel. She wanted good relations with Yemen as the number-one priority. John O'Neill wanted to stop terrorism as the number-one priority. And the two conflicted.

FRAN TOWNSEND, Deputy U.S. Attorney general '95-'01: This results in meetings between the attorney general and State, FBI, C.I.A. and Justice. But Ambassador Pickering is at it, the undersecretary, and the attorney general. Things are getting raised to that kind of a level, this has become such a bone of contention between them.

RICHARD CLARKE: Almost all of us who were following the details in Washington, whether we were in the Justice Department, the FBI, the White House, the State Department, the Defense Department -- almost all of us thought that John O'Neill was doing the right thing.

NARRATOR: But not the higher-ups at the FBI.

BARRY MAWN, Director FBI NYC '00-'02: There may have been people at FBI headquarters that were going, "See? I told you so." You know, "John does upset people and get them upset. And maybe he wasn't the right guy." But that's -- I mean, that's all childish gossip and rumoring, as far as I'm concerned.

NARRATOR: But on the ground in Yemen, the law enforcement agents saw a very different John O'Neill.

MICHAEL DORSEY: I think he developed a real sense of closeness with the senior Yemeni officials. They referred to him in Arabic as "Alach [sp?]," which is "the brother," and oftentimes referred to him as "the commander" or "your commander." They had a real sense of appreciation for his seniority in the U.S. government and for what he represented. And I knew that they came to trust John.

NARRATOR: For six years at the center of the FBI's counterterrorism effort, O'Neill and his team had built the evidence on the mounting bin Laden threat: failed plots to kill hundreds of Americans in Jordan, Ressam's explosives headed to LAX, an aborted Al Qaeda plot to blow up another American warship, the USS The Sullivans, and now the Cole. The Yemenis finally agreed to let the FBI join in the interrogation of one of their most prominent suspects, Fahad al Quso.

O'Neill and his agents believed al Quso knew about bin Laden's desire to videotape the destruction of the Cole, and possibly a whole lot more. O'Neill worked his newly developed Yemeni police officials and old allies in the CIA.

NARRATOR: He had come to believe that some Yemeni officials were not being forthcoming about information from al Quso and other suspects. It was the Khobar Towers investigation all over again.

But the weeks were taking their toll. O'Neill needed a break. He'd get back to al Quso after he returned from New York at the first of the year.

VALERIE JAMES: I have to tell you, when John came home -- he got home, I think it was two days before Thanksgiving because he kept telling me he was going to try to be home for Thanksgiving. He -- John had dropped 20, 25 pounds.

NARRATOR: In New York, he plotted his return to Yemen. He had taken a Yemeni police delegation on a tour of Elaine's and other hotspots. He was working them, trying to get unfettered access to al Quso and what he knew. But then he was told he wouldn't be allowed to return to Yemen. Ambassador Bodine denied his visa.

CHRIS ISHAM, ABC News: I mean, John was not rational on the topic of Ambassador Barbara Bodine. He was -- I mean, "livid" would be putting it mildly. I mean, one can't forget that John was -- he very American, but he was also very Irish.

INTERVIEWER: And that means?

CHRIS ISHAM: That means when he got hot, he got hot. And he was hot. There's no question about it. I think he felt that she was on the wrong side.

NARRATOR: Ambassador Bodine would not grant FRONTLINE's request for an interview. She was quoted in The New Yorker magazine. "The idea that John or his people or the FBI were somehow barred from doing their job is insulting to the U.S. government, which was working on Al Qaeda before John ever showed up. This is all my embassy did for 10 months."

For weeks, the ambassador had been making the case against O'Neill, even lobbying Louis Freeh. Finally, her accusations had their intended effect. Headquarters supported her decision not to let O'Neill back into Yemen.

BARRY MAWN: John was upset. She was bad-mouthing him. She had caused a stir at headquarters. I actually think John was more disappointed that our headquarters didn't back us, as far as sending him back and taking a stronger stand with the State Department. Eventually, our headquarters said, "Well, let's try and work around not having John go back." And so that's what I had to do.

NARRATOR: So O'Neill would not be in Yemen. The investigation slowed to a crawl.

MICHAEL SHEEHAN, Chief Counterterrorism, State Dept. '98-'01: I watched with dismay as the issue of the USS Cole completely disappeared from the U.S. scene, completely -- again, in a new administration. It was just not on their agenda. Clearly, it was not on the agenda of the Congress, the media or anyone else. Again, it went into oblivion.

NARRATOR: By spring, intelligence about Al Qaeda forces in Yemen convinced O'Neill they were about to target his agents. O'Neill pleaded with Barry Mawn to pull them out, and Mawn agreed. O'Neill's investigation in Yemen was effectively over.


48 posted on 09/11/2006 8:03:17 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: shalom aleichem
Look, we all know ambassadors are not experts at anything, let alone diplomats. Most are heavy campaign contributors who just wants a title (Joe Wilson?) and a soft vacation for a few years.
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Your right about some ambassadorships - the glamour ones, United Kingdom, France, Canada, Australia, Japan. Or maybe you have heritage - A Jew to Israel, a Mexican to Mexico, a Pole to Poland. And so on.

No one makes campaign contributions to be appointed ambassador to Yemen. That posting goes to professional State Department people, because no one else wants to pay to go to a dusty, fly-infested dump, like that.

Of course being professional State Department isn't necessarily a recommendation....
49 posted on 09/11/2006 8:03:39 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: texas_mrs

This is one of the most laughable non-denial denials I ever read.


50 posted on 09/11/2006 8:03:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: texas_mrs

YES IT IS.


51 posted on 09/11/2006 8:03:53 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

"No one tells me, the Queen primadonna what to do in my sh*tty crappy sleazy country!"


52 posted on 09/11/2006 8:04:12 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: plenipotentiary

She doesn't need to be active in our government. She's not only inept, she obstructionist.


53 posted on 09/11/2006 8:05:01 PM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: Howlin

Patricia Heaton did her justice. ;)


54 posted on 09/11/2006 8:05:02 PM PDT by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: msnimje

That says it all.


55 posted on 09/11/2006 8:06:09 PM PDT by sandra_789 (.)
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To: texas_mrs

Heh, she must not have like the way she was portrayed. She sounded like the typical State Dept. weenie to me.


56 posted on 09/11/2006 8:06:10 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: texas_mrs
Nothing like showbiz to bring out the amateur critics.

I'm torn between several of Shakespeare's titles in regard to Bodine's published review:

The Taming of the Shrew, Much Ado About Nothing, As You Like It and The Tempest (in a teapot) all seem to apply to Bodine's critique.

57 posted on 09/11/2006 8:07:16 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: finnman69

Wow, that was alot of information. Thanks for posting it. Wonder why she's still around?


58 posted on 09/11/2006 8:07:32 PM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: texas_mrs

From Wikipedia no less:

"...Ms. Bodine's career was marked by controversy when details of her conflict with the FBI investigation of the Cole bombing came to light. According to a PBS Frontline documentary, Ms. Bodine's actions -- in particular her conflict with FBI agent John P. O'Neill -- may have contributed to the intelligence failure that resulted in the 9/11 bombing of the World Trade Center.

She then became Diplomat in Residence at UCSB, until the March 2003 Invasion of Iraq, when she was appointed coordinator for central Iraq in charge of Baghdad. In the summer of 2003, she returned to the State Department in Washington.


59 posted on 09/11/2006 8:08:37 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: corkoman
Well I would say that Richard Clark's real personality is closer to the guy on the right:

Mmmmmm. I believe you have my stapler. ;o)

60 posted on 09/11/2006 8:09:17 PM PDT by SuziQ
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