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Plan gains to publicly identify accused - Register Unconvicted Sex Offenders?
Toledo Blade ^ | Tuesday, August 29, 2006

Posted on 09/01/2006 11:13:40 AM PDT by Theophilus

No one in attendance voiced opposition to rules submitted by Attorney General Jim Petro's office to the Joint Committee on Agency Rule Review, consisting of members of the Ohio House and Senate.

The committee's decision not to interfere with the rules puts Ohio in a position to become the first state to test a "civil registry."

(Excerpt) Read more at toledoblade.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: constitution; offender; registry; sex; sexoffenders
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To: stumpy

With the rate the female teachers in this country are raping boys I wouldn't give women the idea they would be out of the woods on this either.


21 posted on 09/01/2006 11:50:40 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Theophilus

Witches! We must register the witches next! I've got one living right next door... I just KNOW she's a witch...


22 posted on 09/01/2006 11:52:04 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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To: stumpy
The good people of Ohio have nothing to fear, look at the remedy: "A civilly declared offender, however, could petition the court to have the person's name removed from the new list after six years if there have been no new problems and the judge believes the person is unlikely to abuse again."
23 posted on 09/01/2006 11:53:41 AM PDT by Theophilus (Abortion = Child Sacrifice = Future Sacrifice)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
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Wiiiitch!
24 posted on 09/01/2006 11:54:33 AM PDT by Theophilus (Abortion = Child Sacrifice = Future Sacrifice)
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To: TXBubba

You have a point, but the women in this country frequently make these kinds of accusations during divorce. It is almost a given the female spouse will hint/imply/accuse such activities. Mine did not, but she was trying to destroy my kids as well as me as she didn't want to be bothered with them in her "new" life with an older wealthier boyfriend.


25 posted on 09/01/2006 11:55:00 AM PDT by stumpy
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To: Theophilus

This is a feminazi wet dream.

Just point the finger and "shazzaamm" instant criminal!!

Don't pass Go, don't collect $200, and btw, on your way to the registry, hand in your guns!!

But, it "For The Children"!


26 posted on 09/01/2006 11:57:35 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: Theophilus

IIRC, our Founding Fathers started a war over less.


27 posted on 09/01/2006 11:58:58 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Theophilus
Cool.

Your Honor, I accuse Jim Petro.

28 posted on 09/01/2006 12:01:51 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Theophilus

I'm surprised the 'guilty until proven innocent' crowd hasn't descended on this and labeled it a good idea.


29 posted on 09/01/2006 12:05:18 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: MPJackal
"What country is this?"

I wonder about that more every day. If you could see the calendar that was sent out this year by our rural county sheriff's office, you'd be shocked. It's a picture of their SWAT team, all dressed in black with weapons and SKI MASKS HIDING THEIR FACES. I sent him a letter telling him they look like a bunch of Palestinian terrorists.

Carolyn

30 posted on 09/01/2006 12:09:24 PM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: mr_hammer
Sounds like a back door in stopping someone from getting a CCW

Sounds like you just nailed the real reason for having this in the first place.

31 posted on 09/01/2006 12:14:30 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Property tax is feudalism. Income taxes are armed robbery of the minority by the majority.)
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To: Still Thinking
Since anyone can initiate registration, it seems like you could spoof the system simply by registering every citizen in the state.

A natural idea, but read again: anyone may ask a judge to register someone. This places the power squarely in the hands of the the most convincing victims and unscupulous judges.
32 posted on 09/01/2006 12:14:58 PM PDT by xenophiles
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To: Theophilus
A civilly declared offender, however, could petition the court to have the person's name removed from the new list after six years if there have been no new problems and the judge believes the person is unlikely to abuse again."

I know I can find a cure for this problem. Simply register every LEO and judge in the state into this thing.

33 posted on 09/01/2006 12:16:51 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Property tax is feudalism. Income taxes are armed robbery of the minority by the majority.)
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To: Sandy
Your Honor, I accuse...

Hey, I mean, if it might could possbily save one child???

I have 8 children, I should be for it 8x

BTW I think we should execute the first time, dead-to-rights molesters and rapists and cut this registry crap. I don't want to have to worry about somebody I can't doing anything about.

34 posted on 09/01/2006 12:23:24 PM PDT by Theophilus (Abortion = Child Sacrifice = Future Sacrifice)
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To: Theophilus
Un-freagin'-belivable! I always expected the sex offender registries to be eventually abused, back when they were first being proposed. But never thought it would result in something like this this so freagin' fast. A mere 'preponderance of evidence' is such a weak test. It's gonna be neighbor trying to screw neighbor, employee vs. employee.

America, as we knew it, is dead. I don't know if we're ever gonna get it back...The experiment is over.

35 posted on 09/01/2006 12:29:03 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: right-wingin_It
America, as we knew it, is dead. I don't know if we're ever gonna get it back...The experiment is over.

I hope you're wrong, but my fears tell me you may not be.
36 posted on 09/01/2006 12:51:15 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: CDHart
I sent him a letter telling him they look like a bunch of Palestinian terrorists.

Did you get your "friendly" visit from the FBI yet?

37 posted on 09/01/2006 12:53:59 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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To: RebelBanker
In anything approaching a same world, that rule would be quickly dumped as blatantly Unconstitutional. However, I am afraid that this will be one more major erosion of rights "for the children."

I agree. Many states adopted the law allowing the child victims of pedophiles to testify via video. I know this is hard for a child but at the same time what part of "right to face one's accuser" did the courts not understand?

Just wait till the day when law abiding citizens are mustered into court and confronted by a Clutch Cargo-like video voiceover of Officer Smith saying "yes your honor fill in the blank committed that crime".

Look at what was done with RICO against people who just wanted to protest the murder of children.
38 posted on 09/01/2006 2:23:55 PM PDT by samm1148
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To: Theophilus

The implications of this are staggering, especially if it is declared a "success" and is emulated in other states. In many states and cities, registered sex offenders aren't allowed to enter public parks, live within a certain distance of parks and schools, or hold jobs like teaching.

Think about that. If you live near a school and don't like your neighbor, just accuse hom of a sex crime, get his name on the sex offender list, and force him to move under threat of imprisonment. Proof? Trials? Pshaw! It's for the CHILDREN!

How about the high school kid who decides he doesn't like a teacher? Make an unfounded accusation with no evidence, and even if there is nothing to substantiate it the kid can STILL put the teacher on a sex offender list and not only get him fired from his job, but get him banned from teaching permanently. For those of you who don't like teachers, many of these laws ALSO apply to police, firefighters, day care workers, and a whole array of other civil jobs.

Scary.


39 posted on 09/01/2006 2:41:06 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: xenophiles

Oh, excellent. Figures.


40 posted on 09/01/2006 4:18:31 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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