Plan gains to publicly identify accused - Register Unconvicted Sex Offenders?

Toledo Blade ^ | Tuesday, August 29, 2006

[Theophilus]

No one in attendance voiced opposition to rules submitted by Attorney General Jim Petro's office to the Joint Committee on Agency Rule Review, consisting of members of the Ohio House and Senate.

The committee's decision not to interfere with the rules puts Ohio in a position to become the first state to test a "civil registry."

[Theophilus]

Fark Heading: In Ohio, you can now become a registered sex-offender without even being accused of any crime. Bonus: *anyone* can initiate the process. But at least the children are safe

[wvobiwan]

This will never pass constitutional muster, no sweat.

I'm all for protecting children from pedophiles, but I prefer to execute them instead. Then you don't have to worry about registering the scum at all...

But they have to be convicted first, this is America not Cuba.

[RebelBanker]

In anything approaching a same world, that rule would be quickly dumped as blatantly Unconstitutional. However, I am afraid that this will be one more major erosion of rights "for the children."

[Still Thinking]

Since anyone can initiate registration, it seems like you could spoof the system simply by registering every citizen in the state. Wonder if the geniuses that don't mind "sentence first, verdict afterwards" Alice-in-Wonderland style justice thought of that wrinkle.

[wvobiwan]

"...but I prefer to execute them instead."

The pedophiles, not the children...:>D

[MPJackal]

I have a problem with that. An accusation is not enough to force someone to register as a sex offender. People are wrongly accused, that is why we have a legal system. Innocent until proven guilty????? Anyone can initiate it?? No, no one will abuse that will they? Pissed off at someone? Accuse them of being a pedophile, that should do the trick. What country is this?

[Still Thinking]

There's a simple defense to personally motivated accusations: register everyone you know. Pretty soon everyone in the state is on the list and it becomes meaningless.

[JamesP81]

Innocent until proven guilty?????

Innocent until proven guilty hasn't existed in a long time, especially when it's he-said she-said.

[mr_hammer]

Sounds like a back door in stopping someone from getting a CCW ... figures RINO Petro's office would put out something like this.

[TXBubba]

People are wrongly accused

Not only that but some state's sex offenders aren't really what I would call sex offenders. In some states an 18 year old male can be convicted of a sex offense for having sex with his 16 year old girlfriend. Not that I condone the behavior but I hardly find that to be a case of a rabid sex offender unless forceable sex was involved.

[mysterio]

This is absolute insanity.

[Theophilus]

Yah, and I want an "Abuse Of Power" registry on the same terms, and I know a good list of initial nominees.

[Theophilus]

"The rules spell out how the untried process would work..."

Ironic use of words.

[longtermmemmory]

The will really help in divorce cases.

You either agree to "settle" or we will file for a protectvie order based on "information and belief".

Of course with wayback.com the acusation scars for life so you are 100% screwed.

[massgopguy]

There's this guy in Chappiqua NY.

[MPJackal]

When I was in KC and I heard a radio show interviewing some guy. He was talking about how he was arrested and convicted if rape long ago. Turns out the victim was his 16 y/o girl friend. He was 18. The girls father reported him. Oh, I almost forgot...............they have been married for 50+ years now. Under this law he would have to register as a sex offender.

Can anyone say Scarlet Letter? Star of David?

[BaBaStooey]

I'm all for protecting children from pedophiles, but I prefer to execute them instead.

You want to execute children??

[BaBaStooey]

Oh, ok.

Nice to see you managed to spot your own grammatical gaffe.

[longtermmemmory]

ever talk to a prosecutor?

They believe everyone is guilty. (guilty of something)

Prosecutors are generally: 1. looking to make a political name (citizens are expendable) 2. looking to make a legal name (citizens are still expendable) or 3. looking for a government job security (citizens are 100% expendable)


Constitutions and laws are what the judges say they are. They are not paid to care. (their words)