The apparent absence of shadows where shadows were expected to be is raising new questions about the faint glow of microwave radiation once hailed as proof that the universe was created by a "Big Bang."
Posted on 09/01/2006 8:10:03 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
The apparent absence of shadows where shadows were expected to be is raising new questions about the faint glow of microwave radiation once hailed as proof that the universe was created by a "Big Bang."
In a finding sure to cause controversy, scientists at UAH found a lack of evidence of shadows from "nearby" clusters of galaxies using new, highly accurate measurements of the cosmic microwave background.
A team of UAH scientists led by Dr. Richard Lieu, a professor of physics, used data from NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) to scan the cosmic microwave background for shadows caused by 31 clusters of galaxies.
"Among the 31 clusters that we studied, some show a shadow effect and others do not," said Lieu. If the standard Big Bang theory of the universe is accurate and the background microwave radiation came to Earth from the furthest edges of the universe, then massive X-ray emitting clusters of galaxies nearest our own Milky Way galaxy should all cast shadows on the microwave background.
These findings are scheduled to be published in the Sept. 1, 2006, edition of the Astrophysical Journal.
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Another story about this is here.
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Wow -- another Radney Foster fan? I LOVE him. I loved him with Foster & Lloyd, and I love him as a solo act. Kim Richey is fabulous too. (yes, I know this is waaaaaaaaay off topic, but I simply had to chime in :-) )
This Black Gentleman applied for a radio show spot. It was the radio series "The Shadow"..He seemed to have the part down but as his last piece of the audition he was to intone the Intro piece that preceded each serial presentation.
He sat at the microphone and said, "Who knows what secrets lurk in the hearts and minds of men? Dah Shawdow Do!" (Before Eubonics )
Maybe this will help a bit; When space exists you can spend time in it and/or move through it.
When space does not exist nothing exists (no particles, no force fields) that can spend any time in it or travel in it.
The concept of it does not even exist.
That's possible, but it's also possible that the cosmic microwave background is a different or non-uniform age...which would explain why some shadows are seen but other expected shadows are not, though would be problematic for the Big Bang theory to explain.
...if it even exists. That's something that hasn't even remotely been demonstrated.
I hereby abandon thread.
No, it hasn't. It's kind of a waving of the arms at facts that remain to be explained.
You left before I even got here!
Good timing, huh?
Thphth.
Hmmmm.. interesting..
Sometimes something new begins because something from somewhere else intrudes.
(The latest science suggests the existence of 10/11 dimesnions in which we live in only 4. The theories also indicate an excange of energy between the dimensions is possible with particluate matter even, not just field influence. If a completely static space exists where energy is fully depleted, in stable cancelling equilibrium , thn the introduction of any imbalance could lead to an explosive destabilization depending upon the potential energy of the stable state. This would also sugest the existence of different types of space.)
In other words it may be like a match from another dimension being thrown into a room full of hydrazine. boom
Thanks for the ping!
The response to this story proves one thing.
Like the believers in a Creator the believers in the Big Bang are willing to ignore anything to continue to believe what they believe.
I believe in the truth of science.
U.S. duo win physics Nobel for backing up Big Bang
Reuters | Tuesday October 3, 2006 | Patrick Lannin and Sarah Edmonds
Posted on 10/03/2006 11:59:06 PM EDT by FFIGHTER
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1713254/posts
Nobel Prize awarded to Big Bang proponents as evidence vanishesOur regular members and readers will recall that the simplest explanation of the microwave radiation is the "temperature of space", as correctly calculated by Eddington in 1926 and verified with greater accuracy by later authors: 2.8°K. This is the minimum temperature that anything bathed in the radiation of distant starlight can reach. No Big Bang proponent ever came close to predicting the correct temperature of this radiation, its dipolar asymmetry, or the tiny size of its fluctuations... The blackbody character of the microwave radiation was an important observational finding, and its discoverers deserve credit for that (despite trying to attach religious significance to it themselves)... [T]he following new results about the microwave radiation were just released in September... "In a finding sure to cause controversy, scientists at the University of Alabama in Huntsville found a lack of evidence of shadows from 'nearby' clusters of galaxies using new, highly accurate measurements of the cosmic microwave background... Taken together, the data shows a shadow effect about one-fourth of what was predicted - an amount roughly equal in strength to natural variations previously seen in the microwave background across the entire sky... [B]ased on all that we know about radiation sources and halos around clusters, this kind of emission is not expected, and it would be implausible to suggest that several clusters could all emit microwaves at just the right frequency and intensity to match the cosmic background radiation." ...Just over a year ago, published results of another study using WMAP data looked for evidence of "lensing" effects which should have been seen (but weren't) if the microwave background was a Big Bang remnant.
by Tom Van Flandern
Meta Research
Wonder why the Universe don't fill up like a glass with frequencies of waves of light.. Light has been bouncing off of everything for a really long period of time.. Light don't disappear like electricity..
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