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Big Bang's afterglow fails intergalactic 'shadow' test
University of Alabama in Huntsville ^ | 01 September 2006 | Staff (press release)

Posted on 09/01/2006 8:10:03 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

The apparent absence of shadows where shadows were expected to be is raising new questions about the faint glow of microwave radiation once hailed as proof that the universe was created by a "Big Bang."

In a finding sure to cause controversy, scientists at UAH found a lack of evidence of shadows from "nearby" clusters of galaxies using new, highly accurate measurements of the cosmic microwave background.

A team of UAH scientists led by Dr. Richard Lieu, a professor of physics, used data from NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) to scan the cosmic microwave background for shadows caused by 31 clusters of galaxies.


The apparent absence of shadows where shadows were expected to be is raising new questions about the faint glow of microwave radiation once hailed as proof that the universe was created by a "Big Bang."

"Among the 31 clusters that we studied, some show a shadow effect and others do not," said Lieu. If the standard Big Bang theory of the universe is accurate and the background microwave radiation came to Earth from the furthest edges of the universe, then massive X-ray emitting clusters of galaxies nearest our own Milky Way galaxy should all cast shadows on the microwave background.

These findings are scheduled to be published in the Sept. 1, 2006, edition of the Astrophysical Journal.

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Another story about this is here.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bigbang; cosmology; genesis1; haltonarp; lettherebelight; stringtheory; thewordistruth; tvf
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I donno about this ...
1 posted on 09/01/2006 8:10:04 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
SciencePing
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2 posted on 09/01/2006 8:11:18 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The universe is made for life, therefore ID. Life can't arise naturally, therefore ID.)
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To: PatrickHenry

I dunno either. Something is askew with the picture.


3 posted on 09/01/2006 8:12:25 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: PatrickHenry
Who knows what secrets lurk in the hearts and minds of men?

Dah Shadow Do!

4 posted on 09/01/2006 8:13:15 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: PatrickHenry

It makes no sense that there would be shadows to me. The radiation is coming from all directions.


5 posted on 09/01/2006 8:17:17 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping. Will be interesting to see the discussions.


6 posted on 09/01/2006 8:18:29 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: PatrickHenry

Title is a mistake.

LACK of evidence doesn't prove anything, other than the current lack of evidence.

It'd be like me saying, I woke up this morning and the ground was dry, so that must prove that it doesn't rain around here.


7 posted on 09/01/2006 8:18:30 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: PatrickHenry

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence........


8 posted on 09/01/2006 8:23:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Brilliant

Everywhere is the center of expansion.


9 posted on 09/01/2006 8:24:26 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: RightWhale

They're all on DVD now......

10 posted on 09/01/2006 8:24:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: PatrickHenry
I donno about this ...

As with any cutting edge research, sounds like more info is needed...

As the 2nd article states, could be a failure to account for radiation emitted by the galactic cluster, or that we simply don't understand exactly what's going on near the event horizon.

11 posted on 09/01/2006 8:25:32 AM PDT by Quark2005 ("Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs." -Matthew 7:6)
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To: Young Werther

Me And My Shadow

Writer(s): Dave Dreyer - Al Jolson - Billy Rose


(This is the duet with Sammy Davis, Jr.)

Like the wallpaper sticks to the wall
Like the seashore clings to the sea
Like you'll never get rid of your shadow
Frank, you'll never get rid of me

Let all the others fight and fuss
Whatever happens, we've got us.

Me and my shadow
We're closer than pages that stick in a book
We're closer than ripples that play in a brook
Strolling down the avenue
Wherever you find him, you'll find me, just look
Closer than a miser or the bloodhound's to Liza
Me and my shadow
We're closer than smog when it clings to L.A.
We're closer than Bobby is to J.F.K.
Not a soul can bust this team in two
We stick together like glue

And when it's sleeping time
That's when we rise
We start to swing
Swing to the skies
Our clocks don't chime
What a surprise
They ring-a-ding-ding!
Happy New Year!

Me and my shadow
And now to repeat what I said at the start
They'll need a large crowbar to break us apart
We're alone but far from blue

Before we get finished, we'll make the town roar
We'll make all the late spots, and then a few more
We'll wind up at Jilly's right after Toot's Shore
Life is gonna be we-wow-whee!
(Here comes the party!)
For my shadow and me!

Say Frank?
What is it, Sam?
Do me a favor?
What do you want, now?
Would you mind taking it, just one more time?
From the top?
No! From the ending!
Wonderful!

And while we are swinging, to mention a few
We'll drop in at Danny's, The Little Club too
But wind up at Jilly's, whatever we do
Life is gonna be we-wow-whee!
(Wow!)
For my shadow and me!

Frank?
Oh, forget it Sam.


12 posted on 09/01/2006 8:27:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Quark2005
we simply don't understand exactly what's going on near the event horizon

How deep can they see now? A couple hundred thousand years from the discontinuity? No doubt they will find surprises every time they see a little deeper.

13 posted on 09/01/2006 8:28:22 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Brilliant

Maybe they all fell into the Black holes when they tripped over the Dark Matter......


14 posted on 09/01/2006 8:29:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: RightWhale

Does Dark Matter cast a shadow?........


15 posted on 09/01/2006 8:30:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: PatrickHenry

The fact that some galaxies have shadows and some don't doesn't go to contention that the microwave radiation is proof of the Big Bang. The radiation is there.

What we apparently are lacking is an understanding as to why some galaxies don't shield it.


16 posted on 09/01/2006 8:31:46 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Red Badger

Dark matter doesn't do much at all. It has gravity, but it neither emits nor absorbs nor reflects light. Nor does it interact with ordinary matter except by gravity.


17 posted on 09/01/2006 8:32:11 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: PatrickHenry

Back in Columbus days they thought if you sailed to far you would fall off the edge of the earth. I just wonder what todays great minds say about what happens if you travel to the edge of the universe.

By the way does anyone know what existed before the big bang? There had to be something to blowup because nothing is the most stable environment that can exists so there had to be something.

Well that's why I'm not a science type dude.


18 posted on 09/01/2006 8:34:49 AM PDT by Democrap (http://democrap.com)
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To: PatrickHenry

It's like a story from James Taranto's "Bottom stories of the day" or whatever he calls it: "Scientists do not find shadows."


19 posted on 09/01/2006 8:35:22 AM PDT by xjcsa (The internet is not a truck. It's a series of tubes.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

All it means is that there are things here going on that they don't understand...more puzzles to puzzle out....


20 posted on 09/01/2006 8:35:25 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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