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1 posted on 08/29/2006 5:55:40 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: Hydroshock

ummm ... how much land are we paying farmers NOT to harvest????


2 posted on 08/29/2006 5:57:03 AM PDT by mcg2000 (New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad against The Red Cross.)
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Dear God, are these people ever happy?
3 posted on 08/29/2006 5:58:14 AM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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Malthus was right!!!


4 posted on 08/29/2006 5:58:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ( “I'm the Emperor, and I want dumplings!” (German: Ich bin der Kaiser und will Knödel.))
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The growing myth that corn is a cure-all for our energy woes

I pretty much quit reading there.
5 posted on 08/29/2006 5:58:27 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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Bravo Sierra. All the government has to do is quit paying farmers to not grow corn, and there'd be enough to eat, turn into ethanol, and build a mile-wide bowl of Corn Chex.
6 posted on 08/29/2006 5:58:33 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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If we use the socialist farming methods (like in Zimbabwe) - there will be plenty of food (at least for the party elite).
7 posted on 08/29/2006 5:58:34 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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I wasn't aware that people ate a lot of corn stalks and sugar cane.


8 posted on 08/29/2006 5:59:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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This just shows what a truly poor choice ethanol is for a motor fuel. Not to mention that a number of studies show ethanol is a net energy consumer ie you use more fossil fuel energy to produce the ethanol than you get back out of the ethanol you produce.


9 posted on 08/29/2006 5:59:42 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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Ping.

And it's Wal-Marts fault too.


10 posted on 08/29/2006 5:59:44 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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If today's entire U.S. grain harvest were converted into fuel for cars, it would still satisfy less than one-sixth of U.S. demand.

Oh brother. Here we go again with the "will only supply one-sixth of U.S. demand" argument.

I get tired of these idiots and their arguments that we should never do anything about energy self-sufficiency as it's all only a drop in the bucket.

11 posted on 08/29/2006 6:00:41 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Rabid ethnicist.)
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My friend's husband is a consultant for people building ethanol plants. He says in only a few years they will be turning garbage into fuel. Corn is just a stepping stone.


12 posted on 08/29/2006 6:00:57 AM PDT by jwalburg (It wasn't the Executive that Thomas Jefferson referred to as "the Despotic Branch.")
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B as in 'B', S as in 'S'.

The high food value of corn - oil, protein and fiber - is not used to make ethanol and is used to make people food (mostly by being fed to livestock). Ethanol is made from the starch in corn, which isn't highly valued nutrition-wise.


14 posted on 08/29/2006 6:01:07 AM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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Any thing to keep us dependent on foreign oil. The truth is the gov in our country actually pays the farmers not to plant half their fields so they can import from other countries. We would have no problem feeding our selves and growing corn. Only ones who would have a fit are the trouble makers in the middle east, who black mail the world with oil and of course the oil companies.
17 posted on 08/29/2006 6:01:39 AM PDT by betsyross1776
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I knew this was coming.


19 posted on 08/29/2006 6:02:19 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
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The problem is simple: It takes a whole lot of agricultural produce to create a modest amount of automotive fuel.

Lester Brown is not either very knowledgeable or expert, but he plays one on tv.

The switchover to bio-mass alternatives, basically highly efficient use of renewable agri-waste and low-impact plants, such as switch-grass etc is looming. Corn is projected to go over $5 a bushel even without the pressure of the ethanol industry, and this will, by the force of the free market, make it much more conducive to the adoption of the new feedstock sources for fermentation. Corn will be phased out...naturally...as a market response. Farmers will be happy, as they will have even more variety of sources of income, and stable income, they can develop. American auto owners will be happy, because their fuel prices will stabilize and their gas tanks won't be able to be shut off at the whim of Adhmanajad and Osama Bin Laden and his kin.

But, pity the poor liberal television gloom-and-doomers. They will be very unhappy.

21 posted on 08/29/2006 6:04:48 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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SO......

Ethanol was the answer, until we start using it. So now it's "bad"

Wind power is the answer, until someone wants to build wind mills where the Kennedy's might see them. Now they are bad.

SSDD.


27 posted on 08/29/2006 6:07:31 AM PDT by PogySailor
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All the world's problems are easily solved; cover the planet with solar panels and corn!

See, why was that so hard to figure out?


30 posted on 08/29/2006 6:08:58 AM PDT by RightCanuck
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Jeeez. Now if old people fill up thier cars with a gas/ethanol blend, they'll starve even more than they are already!


32 posted on 08/29/2006 6:10:28 AM PDT by b4its2late (There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't.)
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I'm thinking cattails, broom corn, and reedgrass first.


38 posted on 08/29/2006 6:13:56 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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But....Global Warming (trademark, Algore LLC) should expand both the growing season and the Northern extent for grain. Win-win.

Keep driving those SUVs, folks!


41 posted on 08/29/2006 6:14:52 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Scatology is Serendipitous)
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