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California Senate Passes Ballistics Identification Bill to Help Police Solve Gun Crimes - AB-352
U.S. Newswire on Yahoo ^ | 8/24/06 | U.S. Newswire

Posted on 08/24/2006 8:08:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO, Calif., Aug. 24 /U.S. Newswire/ -- With the support of forty-one police chiefs from around the state, the state senate today passed a bill (22-18) that will help police solve gun crimes and catch gun traffickers The bill, AB 352, requires that a new ballistics identification technology be required on all new semiautomatic handguns sold in California after 2008.

The new technology, microstamping, uses powerful lasers to make extremely precise, microscopic engravings on a handgun's firing pin or inside the firing chamber. These engravings reference the serial number of the handgun. When a bullet is fired from the handgun, the marks are transferred to the bullet casing. So when the police retrieve the bullet casing at a crime scene, they can quickly track down the legal owner of the handgun that fired it.

Assemblyman Paul Koretz (D-West Hollywood) is the lead sponsor on the bill, with the Coalition to Stop Handgun Violence, the organizational sponsor. A coalition of groups has been fighting to pass the bill since last year, including the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, Legal Community Against Violence, Women Against Gun Violence, and the California Million Mom March Chapters along with their parent organization, the Brady Campaign.

Griffin Dix, the president of the California Million Mom March Chapters, stated, "Currently, no arrest is made in approximately 45 percent of all homicides in California because police lack the evidence they need. This bill will help police solve crime by providing them with new and meaningful leads for solving handgun crimes."

"On behalf of our law enforcement supporters and victims of crime we work with every day across the nation, I applaud the California State Senate for embracing this innovative technology. I'm hoping the Governor will listen to a fellow Republican and sign this bill once it passes," said Paul Helmke, the new president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. Paul is a former three-term Republican Mayor of Fort Wayne, Indiana.

As the nation's largest, non-partisan, grassroots organization leading the fight to prevent gun violence, the Brady Campaign, working with its dedicated network of Million Mom March Chapters, is devoted to creating an America free from gun violence, where all Americans are safe at home, at school, at work, and in our communities.

http://www.usnewswire.com/


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab352; ballistics; banglist; bradywatch; california; californication; callegislation; donutwatch; guncrimes; identification; libertarians; microstamping; passes; police; senate
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To: jeremiah
Since an extremely high percentage of those wanted in violent crime are illegal aliens

Where are you getting this stat? I live in NYC and I can tell you for a fact, not here, not by a long shot, not even close.

41 posted on 08/24/2006 11:20:39 PM PDT by rudabaga
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To: singfreedom

"Am I wrong, or would a criminal only have to pick up his casings to foil this new law?"

You're right, but I don't see a lot of drive-bys coming back to police up their brass.


42 posted on 08/24/2006 11:22:12 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: singfreedom
Am I wrong, or would a criminal only have to pick up his casings to foil this new law?

Most shootings don't happen in the privacy of a home. They happen on the street and people run away. They don't have time to grab the casings. But this is moot because all the guns on the street used in crimes are illegal. OK, 99.9% of them.

43 posted on 08/24/2006 11:23:35 PM PDT by rudabaga
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To: jeremiah

Sorry, missed your stats. I guess Cali is far different from NYC in that respect then. I work in the Brooklyn system and I almost never see illegals charged with serious crimes, DUI sometimes but that's about it.


44 posted on 08/24/2006 11:26:15 PM PDT by rudabaga
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To: NormsRevenge

This is nothing more than incremental backdoor gun control.


45 posted on 08/24/2006 11:36:34 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: PLMerite

Having gone to high school in LA not all that long ago, I can tell you that some of the driveby artists saw this one coming.

Instead of leaning outside the car and shooting their weapons at full arm extension, they'll simply keep the gun inside the vehicle and use the car as a brass catcher (which is what some of the brighter ones were doing as early as 92). Assuming they care at all, that is.


46 posted on 08/25/2006 12:11:26 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"I'm hoping the Governor will listen to a fellow Republican and sign this bill once it passes," said Paul Helmke, the new president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. Paul is a former three-term Republican Mayor of Fort Wayne, Indiana.

As the nation's largest, non-partisan, grassroots organization leading the fight to prevent gun violence, the Brady Campaign "<

Uh, if it's non-partisan why is he selling his (R) to push an agenda?

47 posted on 08/25/2006 12:17:10 AM PDT by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: Joe Brower; DaveLoneRanger; Travis McGee; Mr. Mojo

ping


48 posted on 08/25/2006 12:17:57 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; Annie03; ...
as another poster said on this thread it is time for every manufactuer of guns to stop selling or servicing gun in california even to cops

Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here

49 posted on 08/25/2006 12:19:44 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: NormsRevenge
It will just make guns unaffordable. And this technology, first employed in Maryland - has not helped to resolve a single crime. Sure, 41 police chiefs supported it - because they don't trust you with your own guns. Just look at the list of usual liberal suspects who support this measure. The same people who oppose genuine get tough on crime proposals when they meet them.

( No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

50 posted on 08/25/2006 1:21:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
As we here all know, this scheme is so obviously unworkable and actually crosses the line into the absurd.

However, when viewed in the light of what it's true purpose is, i.e.: the slow strangulation of firearms ownership by the law-abiding, it all makes perfect sense.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

51 posted on 08/25/2006 5:54:33 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: NormsRevenge
Should help the stocks of S&W and other revolver manufacterers....DUH! Stupid is as stupid does.

The only vexing thing here is that as goes California libs...so goes the rest of the country if it falls into lib hands. Liberalism really is a mental disorder.

52 posted on 08/25/2006 6:00:19 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Joe Brower
...when viewed in the light of what it's true purpose is, i.e.: the slow strangulation of firearms ownership by the law-abiding, it all makes perfect sense.

Joe, I have been in the RKBA wars since the mid-sixties, and one thing that drives me bats about the anti-2nd Amendement moonbats ( and most of the more virulent Left today ) is the way they never quit agitating.

It doesn't matter how asinine, absurd, unworkable or unconstitutional the "scheme de jure" is- as long as it gives them something to promote, to chatter endlessly about, to chat up at cocktail parties or on TV- they're 100% for it.

53 posted on 08/25/2006 6:03:01 AM PDT by backhoe (What part of "Shall NOT be Infringed" is so hard to understand?)
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To: Joe Brower
However, when viewed in the light of what it's true purpose is, i.e.: the slow strangulation of firearms ownership by the law-abiding, it all makes perfect sense.

You know, they pretty much banned semi-autos out there and now they want ballistic imaging? What good is ballistic imaging (rhetorical) it the majority of the guns don't eject the casings?

54 posted on 08/25/2006 6:09:58 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: dc27
Since I live in California, I'd better hurry up and buy that 1911 before the price goes even higher.

Better yet, use that 1911 money for a moving van headed eastward to Free America.

This is incremental gun banning, pure and simple. It won't effect CA's crime rate or percentage of solved murders one iota.

55 posted on 08/25/2006 6:13:22 AM PDT by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA})
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To: MichiganConservative
Leftists are scum
Paul Helmke, the guy pushing this, is a Republican.
56 posted on 08/25/2006 6:35:05 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: skyman
Or they will somehow make it so it's very difficult to change again driving costs even higher so that gun makers won't make or sell them in Calif, so they'll win anyway

They'll lose. They assume that gun manufacturing is a high tech industry. It isn't. Any decent mechanic can manufacture guns. A homemade full auto 9mm can be turned out much cheaper by a bootleg shop than a legal manufacturer. Getting rid of guns will be the same as trying to get rid of drugs.
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57 posted on 08/25/2006 6:47:29 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: rudabaga

I assume it is a gang thing.


58 posted on 08/25/2006 6:57:16 AM PDT by jeremiah (Didn't we vote for that Bush fella, because he was TOUGH on TERROR?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hmmm..didn't the state of Maryland try something like this and had to admit it was a complete bust, and a waste of millions of dollars?


59 posted on 08/25/2006 6:59:05 AM PDT by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: Joe Brower
However, when viewed in the light of what it's true purpose is, i.e.: the slow strangulation of firearms ownership by the law-abiding, it all makes perfect sense.

It sure does.

60 posted on 08/25/2006 6:59:30 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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