Islam poses a threat to the West, say 53pc in poll

The Telegraph ^ | 25/08/2006 | Philip Johnston

[managusta]

he alleged plot to blow up transatlantic airliners and last year's terrorist attacks on London have made more people fear Islam as a religion, not merely its extremist elements, a poll for The Daily Telegraph has found.

A growing number of people fear that the country faces "a Muslim problem" and more than half of the respondents to the YouGov survey said that Islam posed a threat to Western liberal democracy. That compares with less than a third after the September 11 terrorist attacks on America five years ago.

The findings were revealed as Ruth Kelly, the Communities Secretary, conceded that the approach encouraged by the Left for two decades had probably been a mistake and could have contributed to the alienation that many young Muslims said they felt and experienced.

Figures published yesterday by the Office for National Statistics also showed that immigration was now the driving force behind population growth. Last year the number of people living in Britain rose by 375,000 on the previous year to more than 60 million. That was the biggest annual rise since 1962 at the height of the post-war baby boom. Most of the rise was the result of record levels of immigration, which also produced the highest birth rate for 30 years.

The YouGov survey confirms ministers' fears that the country is becoming polarised between Muslims and the rest of the population, which is suspicious of them, and that a belief in "a clash of civilisations" has taken root.

Since a similar poll was conducted after the July 7 bombings in London last year, there has been a significant increase in the number of people worried about some of their Muslim compatriots.

The proportion of those who believe that "a large proportion of British Muslims feel no sense of loyalty to this country and are prepared to condone or even carry out acts of terrorism" has nearly doubled from 10 per cent a year ago to 18 per cent now.

The number who believe that "practically all British Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding citizens who deplore terrorist acts as much as any- one else" has fallen from 23 per cent in July last year to 16 per cent. However, there remains strong opposition to the security profiling of airline passengers based on their ethnicity or religion.

A higher proportion than last year now feels that the police and MI5 should focus their counter-terrorism efforts on Muslims and far fewer people are worried that such an approach risks dividing the country or offending law-abiding Muslims.

Most strikingly, there has been a substantial increase over the past five years in the numbers who appear to subscribe to a belief in a clash of civilisations. When YouGov asked in 2001 whether people felt threatened by Islam, as distinct from fundamentalist Islamists, only 32 per cent said they did. That figure has risen to 53 per cent.

Five years ago, a majority of two to one thought that Islam posed no threat, or only a negligible one, to democracy. Now, by a similar ratio, people think it is a serious threat.

The findings illustrate the huge task facing the Government's new ''cohesion and integration commission" which was formally launched yesterday, charged with finding out whether the multi-cultural experiment has failed and, if so, why.

Miss Kelly said that "difficult questions" had to be posed and answered by the commission, which was promised by the Government more than 12 months ago in its response to the July 7 atrocities on the London transport system that killed 52 passengers and four Muslim suicide bombers.

"In our attempt to avoid imposing a single British identity and culture, have we ended up with some communities living in isolation from each other with no common bonds between them?" she asked. Miss Kelly said that diversity had been "a huge asset" but she acknowledged that the wave of immigration, the highest in British history, had brought fresh challenges. These included the importation of "global tensions" and the growing alienation of white Britons worried by the pace of social and cultural change.

After years when many on the Left have either shut down the debate on cultural diversity or sought to avoid it, Miss Kelly said: "We must not be censored by political correctness and we cannot tiptoe around the issues."

She said: "Our ideas and policies should not be based on special treatment for minority ethnic faith communities. That would only exacerbate division rather than help build cohesion."

The commission will be chaired by Darra Singh, the head of Ealing council, in west London. He called for "a vigorous and open debate about diversity based on facts, not scaremongering". He said: "The commission is a real opportunity to get to grips with this challenge."

Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman, said: "To be truly effective, any attempt to reach out to disaffected members of Muslim communities must incorporate honest debate about Government foreign policy and some counter-terrorism measures."

[HighlyOpinionated]

The findings illustrate the huge task facing the Government's new "cohesion and integration commission" which was formally launched yesterday, charged with finding out whether the multi-cultural experiment has failed and, if so, why.
She said: "Our ideas and policies should not be based on special treatment for minority ethnic faith communities. That would only exacerbate division rather than help build cohesion."

Doesn’t anyone THINK? Of course it failed, just like the dual societies in the USA are doomed to fail. You can't have TWO communities, one speaking English and one Spanish and expect the two to merge into a cohesive group.

No 'democratic' style government can have two communities, one pledged to uphold the government and one pledged to destroy the government and expect a "happy ever after."

Yes, Virginia, it IS a clash of civilizations. It's also a clash of cultures. What we have today is not perfect, but it surely beats Sharia law, mutilation, and death at the hands of men whose minds are in the Seventh Century.

Here is a Clash of Civilizations and Cultures!
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[Jorge]

Islam is so pathetic, even if they blow up buildings, barely 50% see them as a threat.

They are and will always be losers.

[Spruce]

islam is a ideology more dangerous to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness than Nazism, Comunism, and fascism combined.

It is not a religion.

islam should be rooted out and destroyed with a vigor never seen since our destruction of Naziism.

[ladyinred]

The proportion of those who believe that "a large proportion of British Muslims feel no sense of loyalty to this country and are prepared to condone or even carry out acts of terrorism" has nearly doubled from 10 per cent a year ago to 18 per cent now.

It is time the WORLD woke up to the fact that Muslims feel loyalty only to Islam and it's intent to rule the world under their religion. Why is this so darn hard for people to understand? The so called holy books of this group of billions makes no secret of this fact, so why are we so ignorant about it?

[pissant]

Or rung up on charges of hate speech.

[HeartlandOfAmerica]

Gotta wonder if the Brits are still going to let them build that 70,000 person mosque in London for the Olympics.

Hate to think what security for the Olympics is going to cost!

Didn't they pass some sorta anti-Blasphemy laws to protect Islam just a few days after 7/7? Wonder how that's working out for them.

Haven't heard much from ol' George Galloway since he was on Al-J a few weeks ago begging for money from the Ummah, altruistic people that they are. Wonder what his thoughts on the plane mass-murder plot are.

And now the Libs have taken away the Brit's guns and the means of defending themselves. And they'll just sweep the libs back in in the next election.

*shrug* some people never learn.

Lotsa questions for which there are impossible answers.

[TheWasteLand]

So 47% of Britain is Muslim now? 'Cause that's the only way this makes sense to me.

[ladyinred]

Will we? We don't even seem to know they are a threat in this country! The left who speak with such a loud voice have seen to it that they have more rights then we do. Somehow our POW's in Cuba have US constitutional rights! This is insane, and it grows worse daily. We are the ones who must find a way to make our voices heard above the screeching leftists and demand that we be defended properly against these murdering hordes!

[pissant]

We are fighting the quislings at every turn and winning. The left may be loud, but they are wrong. The Guantanamo bay scum are still in prison and congress is going to rectify the BS that came from the Supreme Court regarding Bush's use of tribunals.

NSA is still active, despite the screams from the left (and the ridiculous dingbat judge who thought she was going to stop it). We still spy on mosques. We are progressing well in Afghanistan and Iraq despite the Cut and Run treasonous democrats and MSM quagmire meme. We are prepping for war with Iran. We are getting great intel from Saudi, the UAE, Jordan, Pakistan, Morocco, Qatar, Kuwait, and Egypt. We, meaning conservatives, KNOW we are in an epic war. And we know that the far left in this country is everybit the enemy as the terror-scum.

[NewLand]

This just in.... 47% of those polled also smoke are dope(s)

[Jemian]

Ya' know, it doesn't matter that 53% believe it is a threat, or that 76.938571% believe that it isn't a threat. Islam is a threat, whether we believe it or not.

[Ben Chad]

A new mosque just openned in Plano, TX, dedicated by Gov Rick Perry (R), and some at FR say its ok, they're the "good" ones. ROP? Spit.

[vimto]

Britain is waking up and I do wish FReepers would give us some credit where credit is due. It may not be enough but we ahve seena big change in the last year...

I've always been worried about that Olympic Mosque. It isn't just the security but the belligerent symbolism of it. Maybe the tide is turning.

No, we did not pass any anti-blasphemy laws after 7/7. Blair wanted them but our House of Lords (thankfully) rejected them twice and they failed in the commons.