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Islam poses a threat to the West, say 53pc in poll
The Telegraph ^ | 25/08/2006 | Philip Johnston

Posted on 08/24/2006 6:40:05 PM PDT by managusta

he alleged plot to blow up transatlantic airliners and last year's terrorist attacks on London have made more people fear Islam as a religion, not merely its extremist elements, a poll for The Daily Telegraph has found.

A growing number of people fear that the country faces "a Muslim problem" and more than half of the respondents to the YouGov survey said that Islam posed a threat to Western liberal democracy. That compares with less than a third after the September 11 terrorist attacks on America five years ago.

The findings were revealed as Ruth Kelly, the Communities Secretary, conceded that the approach encouraged by the Left for two decades had probably been a mistake and could have contributed to the alienation that many young Muslims said they felt and experienced.

Figures published yesterday by the Office for National Statistics also showed that immigration was now the driving force behind population growth. Last year the number of people living in Britain rose by 375,000 on the previous year to more than 60 million. That was the biggest annual rise since 1962 at the height of the post-war baby boom. Most of the rise was the result of record levels of immigration, which also produced the highest birth rate for 30 years.

The YouGov survey confirms ministers' fears that the country is becoming polarised between Muslims and the rest of the population, which is suspicious of them, and that a belief in "a clash of civilisations" has taken root.

Since a similar poll was conducted after the July 7 bombings in London last year, there has been a significant increase in the number of people worried about some of their Muslim compatriots.

The proportion of those who believe that "a large proportion of British Muslims feel no sense of loyalty to this country and are prepared to condone or even carry out acts of terrorism" has nearly doubled from 10 per cent a year ago to 18 per cent now.

The number who believe that "practically all British Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding citizens who deplore terrorist acts as much as any- one else" has fallen from 23 per cent in July last year to 16 per cent. However, there remains strong opposition to the security profiling of airline passengers based on their ethnicity or religion.

A higher proportion than last year now feels that the police and MI5 should focus their counter-terrorism efforts on Muslims and far fewer people are worried that such an approach risks dividing the country or offending law-abiding Muslims.

Most strikingly, there has been a substantial increase over the past five years in the numbers who appear to subscribe to a belief in a clash of civilisations. When YouGov asked in 2001 whether people felt threatened by Islam, as distinct from fundamentalist Islamists, only 32 per cent said they did. That figure has risen to 53 per cent.

Five years ago, a majority of two to one thought that Islam posed no threat, or only a negligible one, to democracy. Now, by a similar ratio, people think it is a serious threat.

The findings illustrate the huge task facing the Government's new ''cohesion and integration commission" which was formally launched yesterday, charged with finding out whether the multi-cultural experiment has failed and, if so, why.

Miss Kelly said that "difficult questions" had to be posed and answered by the commission, which was promised by the Government more than 12 months ago in its response to the July 7 atrocities on the London transport system that killed 52 passengers and four Muslim suicide bombers.

"In our attempt to avoid imposing a single British identity and culture, have we ended up with some communities living in isolation from each other with no common bonds between them?" she asked. Miss Kelly said that diversity had been "a huge asset" but she acknowledged that the wave of immigration, the highest in British history, had brought fresh challenges. These included the importation of "global tensions" and the growing alienation of white Britons worried by the pace of social and cultural change.

After years when many on the Left have either shut down the debate on cultural diversity or sought to avoid it, Miss Kelly said: "We must not be censored by political correctness and we cannot tiptoe around the issues."

She said: "Our ideas and policies should not be based on special treatment for minority ethnic faith communities. That would only exacerbate division rather than help build cohesion."

The commission will be chaired by Darra Singh, the head of Ealing council, in west London. He called for "a vigorous and open debate about diversity based on facts, not scaremongering". He said: "The commission is a real opportunity to get to grips with this challenge."

Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman, said: "To be truly effective, any attempt to reach out to disaffected members of Muslim communities must incorporate honest debate about Government foreign policy and some counter-terrorism measures."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: globaljihad; islam; multiculturalist; muslim; thewest
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Multi-culturalism is dead.Multi-culturalism Ver.2 is on its way.
1 posted on 08/24/2006 6:40:08 PM PDT by managusta
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To: managusta

The other 47 percent think its not a threat becuase they know the US will pull their sorry ass out of the fire if need be.


2 posted on 08/24/2006 6:42:00 PM PDT by pissant
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JUST 53 PERCENT?????

WHOLLY CRAP!!!!!!


3 posted on 08/24/2006 6:42:49 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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The YouGov survey confirms ministers' fears that the country is becoming polarised between Muslims and the rest of the population, which is suspicious of them, and that a belief in "a clash of civilisations" has taken root.
4 posted on 08/24/2006 6:45:36 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: managusta

It takes a while, but the truth eventually seeps in. I guess CAIR needs to redouble its efforts.


5 posted on 08/24/2006 6:49:04 PM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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To: managusta
When YouGov asked in 2001 whether people felt threatened by Islam, as distinct from fundamentalist Islamists, only 32 per cent said they did. That figure has risen to 53 per cent.

Its an improvement..

6 posted on 08/24/2006 6:49:44 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that how you sell clothing.)
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To: managusta

Slow learners but they're catching on.


7 posted on 08/24/2006 6:50:48 PM PDT by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills. 9/11, Beslan, Madrid, London)
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To: managusta
This poll needs to be properly evaluated. 53 percent think the muzzies are a threat to the west of Britain. What was not stated is of the remaining 47 percent, 45 percent think muzzies are a threat to their east. The remaining 2 percent were muzzies who at the time of polling were plotting new and more lethal attacks, and were not immediately available
8 posted on 08/24/2006 7:04:44 PM PDT by petertare (!)
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The importation of global tensions. I almost want to write them a welfare check,but that would be doubly racist...


9 posted on 08/24/2006 7:09:14 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: managusta
more than half of the respondents to the YouGov survey said that Islam posed a threat to Western liberal democracy. That compares with less than a third after the September 11 terrorist attacks on America five years ago.

Amazing how the numbers change when it's not just the cowboy Yanks getting killed.

After all, we deserved it.

I think they just been mugged. Changes a lots of hearts and minds.

10 posted on 08/24/2006 7:10:08 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Middle East Interactive Map: http://interneticsonline.com/MEMap.html)
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Assuming that you are not a Mooselimb, do you personally feel that the democrats can talk (and that's the ONLY plan the democrat party has to end the tensions) the jihadi islamofascists out of seeking to kill you and your entire family of filthy non-believers if the democraps talk back control of your government?


11 posted on 08/24/2006 7:13:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: managusta

This just in.... 47% of those polled also smoke dope



12 posted on 08/24/2006 7:15:58 PM PDT by volunbeer
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To: MHGinTN
Your words are too kind for one as disgusted with islam as me.
13 posted on 08/24/2006 7:17:45 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: managusta
the approach encouraged by the Left for two decades had probably been a mistake and could have contributed to the alienation

It may be sinking into the heads of many Brits, but the left is still lost in the fog.

The problem with the left is that like most of their proposals, they let things go on whether they can foresee all the consequences or not and ultimately it ends up costing people their lives and livelihoods.

Stupidest people on the planet the Lefties.

14 posted on 08/24/2006 7:20:28 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Middle East Interactive Map: http://interneticsonline.com/MEMap.html)
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To: managusta

Sanity is breaking out all over the world.


15 posted on 08/24/2006 7:20:35 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: managusta

We are witnessing the greatest anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-life collective in the history of civilization.


16 posted on 08/24/2006 7:21:00 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: managusta
If the percentage is that high in PC Britain, then it's probably even higher in the US. The ragheads are doing their counterproductive best to win enemies around the world, and to squander whatever tolerance remains for their gutter mentality.

The sooner we get to that point, the sooner we can get around to exterminating these lice.

17 posted on 08/24/2006 7:22:51 PM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: PGalt

You're right, but we still might have time to turn things around. We need 'missionaries' to promote Reason.


18 posted on 08/24/2006 7:23:28 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (The Left hates America)
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The other 47 percent think its not a threat

How many of those 47% lied to the poll taker because they didn't want to be accused of "racism"?

19 posted on 08/24/2006 7:26:30 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 145-150)
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To: kinoxi
What really frightens me is the disconnect of the sovereigns, we the people. The media and the lying professional liars (read democrat politicians) have accomplished something I would not have thought possible after 911 ... sovereign have been manipulated to desire to withdraw from engaging the terrorist over there, inviting the further murder and mayhem over here. I am not surprised that the democrat party is willing to sacrifice millions of Americans in order the democrats return to power, but I am astonished that the American people cannot see the obvious. What was that old phrase ... loyal opposition? Well, the democrats' approach to opposition is not in any way loyal, because they will gladly sacrifice you and yours if they can get back in power over it, nor is it loyal to America ... though it does appear upon deeper reflection that the democrats are loyal to the islamofascists so long as it aids their obstruction to the Bush administration. America is in deep trouble and the methodology of the democrat party will cost millions of lives just as the democrats' favorite rite of abortion on demand has cost tens of millions of alive unborn babies.
20 posted on 08/24/2006 7:26:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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