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1 posted on 08/21/2006 5:51:50 PM PDT by Bob J
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..in its proper context, the Bible is talking about elder or pastoral leadership--ladies are not to be in these offices.

But a little Bible study--it may be straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel to say that a lady should not do this.

Though it may send the wrong signal concerning authority and headship, it can't be refuted with Paul's instruction to Timothy...

41 posted on 08/21/2006 6:16:56 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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Yes. Women should be allowed to teach men.


42 posted on 08/21/2006 6:17:17 PM PDT by goldfinch
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Let 'em teach any damned thing they want.....just don't let 'em vote.


47 posted on 08/21/2006 6:20:07 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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If you're born again what are you born again as?...
If you're not born again you're clueless as to what scripture means and is..
What gender is the Body of Christ?.. or does it even have a gender.?..
48 posted on 08/21/2006 6:21:06 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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Shouldn't this be in Religion?

Chat?


56 posted on 08/21/2006 6:24:16 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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Nuns did it in private school and I had no problem.

The forced accordion lessons are another issue.


59 posted on 08/21/2006 6:25:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Did you have to spank someone for pulling your thread earlier?


And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.


Was the woman not able to initiate the teaching of a lesson to the disciples on that day?

63 posted on 08/21/2006 6:28:11 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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Why is there a 3rd thread on this...

..I thought the moderator said 2 was plenty?.....curious

72 posted on 08/21/2006 6:37:10 PM PDT by Guenevere
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It's their church, their private property.

If they want to be stupid bigots, fine, just don't complain when membership dries us!
92 posted on 08/21/2006 6:48:51 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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Show me a silent woman and I'll be asking "when did she pass away"?


93 posted on 08/21/2006 6:49:07 PM PDT by fish hawk (Terror : in a cave in Afghanistan. Treason: in a cave-in , in the Democratic Party)
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The pastor's an idiot. Men and women should be able to preach God's word, and that is QUITE biblical. When it comes to matters of the spirit, God does not recognize sex/gender at all.

As a matter of fact, our church received quite a teaching on this very subject just last evening. The speaker's arguments, well supported and IN context by the Bible.....utterly destroyed any contentions to the contrary.


98 posted on 08/21/2006 6:51:09 PM PDT by RightOnline
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Hi Bob, I was raised a Baptist, and my Church did not ordain women to preach. However, women were allowed to teach. It seems to me that in the scriptures there were women who did teach in the NT. Perhaps because of my background, I would feel uncomfortable with a woman pastor, I certainly have no problem with women teaching men or what ever.


99 posted on 08/21/2006 6:51:56 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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What Say Ye FR? Should a woman be allowed to teach Scripture to men?

Man or woman, one must have my permission to teach me.

Anyone who automatically assumes they have something to teach me is a fool.

Ask first, teach after.

100 posted on 08/21/2006 6:52:22 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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Personally, I don't agree. I see nothing wrong with women teaching. Preaching... I don't know. I'd have to research that. Still, I support women teaching.

But, it's their church and their choice. So long as they don't interfere with the government laws, the only people with authority to tell them what to do are the higher leadership (assuming they aren't independent).

BTW-I heard the pastor. He said that there were many other issues and that he, in order to show his Christianity, wouldn't bash her in public. Sounds like it wasn't just the fact that she was a women, IMHO.


101 posted on 08/21/2006 6:52:47 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.") (France is a complete mockery.)
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Since we are all playing theologians tonight here is two more scriptures for us to tackle in Matthew 18:8-9

8.If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off, and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life maimed or crippled, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into the eternal fire.

9 If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out, and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into the Gehenna of fire.

Presumably, since most of us on this forum have feet, hands and eyes, I suppose we can take this to mean none of us have sinned.

What say you?


102 posted on 08/21/2006 6:52:53 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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Weren't a couple of threads enough for this topic?

Sorry, but it's not really worth more than one thread. It's an interesting question, but your post could easily have been added to the previous thread.


103 posted on 08/21/2006 6:53:10 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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No...and I teach sunday school.


105 posted on 08/21/2006 6:53:15 PM PDT by I got the rope
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Does this mean that all those nuns at Our Lady of Perpetual Detention are going to get fired too? I don't know about the Baptists, but the Catholics have been letting women teach for a long, lonnnnnnngggggggg time.


107 posted on 08/21/2006 6:53:59 PM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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People only need to be taught to read. The words are there plain as day.


110 posted on 08/21/2006 6:55:00 PM PDT by notigar
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AS the brother in law of a female pentecostal pastor, I don't have a problem with it.

So long as the teacher, whether they are female or male, sticks to the BIBLE. That's the key.


112 posted on 08/21/2006 6:55:36 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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