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Crucial steps in investigation of Karr didn't get under way until after arrest
Contra Costa Times ^ | 8/19/06 | Kirk Mitchell

Posted on 08/19/2006 11:03:11 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

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To: Paladin2

Sounds like Ward Churchill was running the investigation!


21 posted on 08/19/2006 11:43:10 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Warren_Piece

I had heard little pieces of the March story. The guy was a slimeball, her parents heroes in my eyes. Glad to hear he was convicted.


22 posted on 08/19/2006 11:44:22 AM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: drjulie

Could be that Cunningham (in article) is right, ie. that arranging detention/extradition on a child porn charge was not do-able, but basing it on a murder charge would guarantee the desired result.


23 posted on 08/19/2006 11:50:40 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: stm

You gotta give this guy credit. He has stones of ice.

He got the US Government to get him out of Taiwain and let himself be incarcarated (a little) to pull the scheme off.

He already knows he won't be prosecuted, "confession" be hanged.


24 posted on 08/19/2006 11:52:23 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: gopwinsin04
On the one hand, I am happy about the Thai aspects of this case. Notably they are that this slime-ball is somewhere that he cannot hurt children, the Thai schools are likely to check backgrounds of foreign teachers who often end up they due to problems back home (some have innocent motives but historically, some do not -- often drug problems), and that pressure is being put on Thai authorities to crack down on "influential persons" behind child sex tourism (not that it will work but every bit of pressure helps).

On the other hand, I hate to see a circus atmosphere in the USA over such a serious problem.

25 posted on 08/19/2006 11:52:29 AM PDT by JimSEA ( "The purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis." Spock)
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To: Bonaparte

Could be - and perhaps they were fearful of him fleeing or hurting another child. It just seems like, given all this time, they could have established a few facts that would have at least made it possible for him to have been responsible. I guess we'll know soon. My initial impression from hearing him is that he is a pedophile who may fantasize about the death of young girls - thus the obsessions with the various cases. We know he didn't kill the Klaas girl. There are a lot of unanswered questions, that's for sure (was he there, how he got in the house, how he got out, the ransom note, etc.).


26 posted on 08/19/2006 12:01:58 PM PDT by drjulie
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To: gopwinsin04
If she didn't know he was in to child porn etc., She could has assumed he was at work etc. during the time period, while he was out doing dastardly deeds.

What did he do for a living? He certainly didn't make enough as a sub teacher to support a family with three young children. Was he selling child porn? Lots of questions still not answered.
27 posted on 08/19/2006 12:29:01 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: drjulie

Yes, there are lots of unanswered questions. Here's one of them -- why would his ex-wife tell the media that he couldn't have committed the murder because he was with her in far-away Alabama at the time? I can't say for sure, but my best guess is that she said this because it's true. She divorced him when she discovered his pedophilia. I don't think they exchange Christmas cards and I doubt she would lie to give him an alibi.


28 posted on 08/19/2006 1:11:27 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: hoosiermama

If it gets to trial, it's sure going to be interesting. He's likely to have excellent counsel. A defense lawyer can't buy advertising this good.


29 posted on 08/19/2006 1:17:12 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: gopwinsin04
...but he was still a fugiitive.

From Friday, August 18, 2006 (SF Chronicle) DOUBTS ABOUT HIS STORY/SUSPECT'S PAST: His work with children drew complaints from their parents:

But in March, [2001]detectives for the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department were tipped to e-mails that Karr had sent, according to court documents. "The e-mails concerned children, and deputies were concerned because of (Karr's) employment as a teacher," according to the records.

In an interview in April, Karr told Napa County sheriff's Detective Martin Frey that he was writing a book about Richard Allen Davis and that he had a copy of Polly Klaas' death certificate and a letter from Davis at his house. Karr encouraged Frey to go and see the documents.

When detectives arrived at the home, they found images of child pornography on Karr's computer. He was arrested a few days later and charged with five counts of possession of child pornography.

Karr, who had been held on $100,000 bail, was released from jail on his own recognizance on Oct. 5, 2001. He was ordered to remain in close contact with a probation officer and to stay away from "parks, schools, day care centers, swimming pools, beaches, theaters, arcades or other places where children congregate," according to court records.

When he failed to appear at a scheduled court date, a warrant was issued for his arrest on Dec. 13.

That was when he fled to Europe, Central America, and Asia, to "teach" and work as a "nanny/tutor". There was no need to to do "basic investigative work" on his involvement over there; he confessed over there, and needed to be brought back any way. This way, the CO people get their mitts on him, and investigate, rather than risk having CA toss him free again.

30 posted on 08/19/2006 1:25:22 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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re: why would his ex-wife tell the media that he couldn't have committed the murder because he was with her in far-away Alabama at the time?

Well, she could be doing it to protect her children. She has 3 boys who are better off not thinking that they are the children of a pedophile and murderer of one of the highest profile murders in recent history.
31 posted on 08/19/2006 2:32:23 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: gopwinsin04

For one thing, they didn't even know his name until they followed him to a PO Box in Bangkok on Wednesday!

This all originated from "Prof" Tracey's "alarm" over an email "Daxis" (JohnMarkKarr) sent him. "Daxis" told him he had a new 21-speed bike and was living in Bangkok. Tracey told him he was sending him something by snail mail and Karr gave him a PO Box number.

Boulder DA investigators rented a room at his fleabag hotel 3 weeks ago (we have to assume he also told Tracey about "The Blooms," so the LEOs could go there) and tailed "Daxis"'s-- or somebody's - comings and goings.

Finally, the Blooms guy jumped on his 21-speed and went to that PO Box to pick up the whateverm addressed to Daxis, sent from Tracey in Boulder - and they nailed him. We assume it was then that they learned his real name and could do the other background checks.


32 posted on 08/19/2006 3:17:14 PM PDT by Rte66
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"whateverm" = "whatever,"


33 posted on 08/19/2006 3:19:01 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Very interesting....And all this time I thought they located him through the computer/email.

Again. Where was he getting his money? 21 speed bikes are NOT free. What did he do beside "teach"? He certainly didn't have any teaching job long enough to pay bills/travel around the world.


34 posted on 08/19/2006 3:33:43 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

I have no idea - I'm really waiting to hear that part of it. Certainly wasn't money from family, who hadn't heard from him since 2001.

He seems - never mind, not gonna speculate. Hate giving this guy so much attention. Let's just say, he may have been living off "the kindness of strangers."


35 posted on 08/19/2006 3:43:29 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

unbelieveable


36 posted on 08/19/2006 4:09:44 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

What is the problem in Boulder? It is really troubling to say the least.


37 posted on 08/19/2006 4:12:04 PM PDT by ladyinred (Thank God the Brits don't have a New York Times!)
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To: hoosiermama
Where was he getting his money? 21 speed bikes are NOT free.

Maybe some went to baht for him?

38 posted on 08/19/2006 4:15:40 PM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: hoosiermama

He probably was a "working boy", if you know what I mean.

I think he is wanted on other charges anyway, so bring him back, lock him up, fry him if he's for real.


39 posted on 08/19/2006 4:19:05 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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40 posted on 08/20/2006 5:53:55 AM PDT by Rte66
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