Posted on 08/18/2006 9:31:38 PM PDT by Let's Roll
Subject: Fwd: Spanish newspaper article on Judaism (In English)
All European life died in Auschwitz
By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez
I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz. We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.
The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned. And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.
They have turned our beautiful Spanish cities into a third world, drowning in filth and crime. Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts. And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.
We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for hoping for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs. What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.
All American Patriots must pay attention and come together or they will eventually lose their great country as well. Spain has gradually allowed their country to be absorbed by liberal polices, ideals and a permissiveness that presented the current dilemma.
"Putting a bone through your nose does not have the same value as putting a man on the moon."
He was so right. What a waste! I grew up with the results of my father being a shell-shocked WWII veteran - from fighting Hitler's hordes in N. Africa, Sicily, Italy & Germany. What a waste is right. One would have thought any rational German would not have been favorably impressed with the sticklerish goose-stepping and sig heiling of Hitler and his bunch of hooligans to start with.
It is also unremarked that many Jews in Spain converted of their own free will under the leadership of a series of Jewish Scholars wo came to accept Christ. Many important Spanish bishops, archbishops, abbots, and priests, oddly enough, were Jewish Converts! This tradition continued, for example, when a Jew was named the recent RC Archbishop of Paris.
As with any large number of converts to anything, many Jews did convert for less than optimal reasons or under duress, and continued to practice their original religion in secret. This, amigo, was guaranteed big trouble with your neigborhood Inquisitor, if you were ratted out. A one-way ticket for you and the family to old Mexico was a solution immensely preferable to the punishments fashionable at the time. One should add that these gruesome punishments were also practiced by the Protestants upon Catholics or upon Protestants who were the wrong kind in the wrong place at the wrong time, e.g., a Lutheran or a Baptist in Geneva. Theology had teeth in those days!
Great post.
So what?
First of all I posted it as a vanity and something I received in an email. People make all kinds of claims in emails - but the opinion and writing was still excellent.
Then we were kindly provided with a link to the article at a website that is still in existence as of today. That was a bonus.
You are trying to discredit the piece.
Are you saying Santa Anna was Jewish?
I got it as an email twice over the weekend. Agree with everything you've said about the opinion and writing. I also agree with what you say about people making all kinds of claims in emails.
Then we were kindly provided with a link to the article at a website that is still in existence as of today. That was a bonus.
Not really. If you Google "Sebastian Villar Rodriguez" you will find a this several pages of links showing where this piece had been published on a number of websites, including the link you provided. However, the link you provided wasn't to the primary source.
You are trying to discredit the piece.
If I was trying to discredit the piece by wondering which newspaper had originally published the paper, then were you trying to discredit the piece by commenting that "People make all kinds of claims in emails"?
Of course not. The ideas in the piece speak for themselves, and hit the X-ring. However, I was questioning the origin of the piece. As circulated, the item claimed that Mr. Rodriguez' article had been published in a Spanish newspaper. I found it curious that no citation or URL was provided to the primary source, and this raised my suspicion that its provenance might not be as advertised. I was pleased to find that the article had actually been published by what appears to be a genuine news/opinion journal with a website, and had not just originated on some random guy's blog.
My Spanish is too rusty to translate the original article, or, more important, the "Who We Are" section of the newspaper's website, running it through Google's translator yields mostly gibberish, and so I'll have to wait for my bilingual wife to return from visiting her family to understand the website.
Best wishes.
After Spain expelled the Jews they went into a 500 year decline, and now are the most expended of cultures -- not even the energy left to breed. What happened to them was a warning to the rest of Europe, and after WWII and Auschwitz, et. al., the same thing has happened to them. Dry, dusty, empty of soul, lethargic, socializtic, inbred. Too lazy to breed. Yep, Europe is finished, with some exceptions.
BTTT
No, I avoided saying what I do not know. I said what I do know.
"No, the only limitation was they were not permitted to remove any precious metals"
and
"There is a distinction because the government did not take the houses either, 4 month may not have been enough time to sell them for everyone, but it was certainly better than 3 days"
So the payment for the house was in stocks? Paper money? Oh right, those didn't exist then.
You are trying to make distinctions that have no real meaning. No "precious metals" and losing your land in those days meant you got to take nothing much but the clothes on your back as Alouette said. Transportation itself was primitive and highly dangerous. Many died, but per you that doesn't matter either since they were not actually ordered to die. It was just a likely incidence.
What is your motive for acting as an apologist for the inexcusable unless you think it legitimate to expel Jews? Believe me no one needs to exaggerate the enormity of this. It was despicable.
"Believe me no one needs to exaggerate the enormity of this."
Then stop it.
I don't care how bad it was, there is no license to exaggerate.
"Did any of them know that Arafat was a pedophile, and he probably died of AIDS? "
The majority did not. As far as I saw, the only Spanish newspaper which even mentioned it (in an editorial) was the generally pro-Western ABC. (The Spanish media refers to ABC as Right Wing).
So much of the media is pure crap in Spain (like Britain and the US. They broadcast programs that are very critical of the US and Isreal, but no differing opinion is aired.
However, before you start, since non of you seem to be willing to suppose any other motive to me except that of antisemitism and wickedness, I'm not saying that that was the reason. The reason was Spain at the time was still a very poor country. In any case the Jews expelled did not have to go far, there were large Jewish communities in Muslim north Africa, as well as in the Ottoman Empire. Back then the Muslims welcomed them, after all the Jews in Spain had been the backbone of the administration under the moors. Times have changed.
One thing more, you will not be able to understand, and place the event into proper historical context unless you know what were its causes. The irony is, that as much as the Expulsion of the Jews, and Spanish antisemitism is a part of the "Black Legend" now, it was in part a response to the Black Legend of the time. Spaniards were looked down upon by most Europeans precisely because they were considered 'polluted' if you will by Jewish blood. That's why the Inquisition eventually became more concerned with the 'pure blood laws,' and who was a Jew three generations ago than with actually dealing with suspected Judaizers in the present. As Luther quipped "The Spaniards are all Marranos (Jewish pigs)." For most of Spain's history that was the supposed reason the Spanish were cruel and totalitarian; it was because they were actually Jewish. It's only been in the last century that that has been turned around. They can't catch a break, either they are evil because they are antisemitic, or because they are Jews.
"You are laboring under the delusion that I've been defending the Expulsion as 'no big deal.'"
Like me, you are advocating that it be seen as "exactly as bad as it really was."
"Strike out 'in the trenches' - due to faulty memory -all else can be sourced"
LOL- just strike out the most devestating thing in my statment and find somthing else ... OR...
OK - you proved my BS, but here's another thing to try...
Just WHERE is the source for that strike out ? Where is the source for the faulty information ? Did you make it up or did someone lie to you ?
Though Hitler was certainly no Muslim, he *did* have an affinity for the Islamic religion, which he compared favourably against the Christianity in Germany. Albert Speer, Hitler's wartime Minister of Armaments and Munitions, records in his memoirs,
"Hitler had been much impressed by a scrap of history he had learned from a delegation of Arabs. When the Mohammedans attempted to penetrate beyond France into Central Europe during the eighth century, his visitors had told him, they had been driven back at the Battle of Tours. Had the Arabs won this battle, the world would be Mohammedan today. For theirs was a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and subjugating all nations to that faith. The Germanic peoples would have become heirs to that religion. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the Germanic temperament. Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.
"Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking, 'You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness...."5
http://www.studytoanswer.net/islam/hitlerislam.html
The Hanzars swore an oath to the Third Reich specifically written by Heinrich Himmler. Himmler had this to say about Islam: "I have nothing against Islam because it educates the men in this division for me and promises them heaven if they fight and are killed in action. A very practical and attractive religion for soldiers." No doubt, Himmler's attitudes were shared by the Nazi elite and express an intimate understanding regarding an aspect of Islam that can be manipulated by the Nazis.
The Hanzar SS Division fought against Yugoslav partisans led by General Josip Broz Tito, and carried out police and security runs in Hungary. SS conscription in Yugoslavia during the war produced 42,000 Waffen SS and police troops. Haj Husseini had flown from Berlin to Sarajevo for the purpose of inspecting its arms and training exercises and bestows blessings to the Islamo-fascist army. (Internet source The Arab/Muslim Nazi Connection& Amin al-Husayni & The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the Nazification of the Arab world).
After World War II, Husseini fled to Switzerland, then Paris before settling in Cairo. He escaped house arrest in Paris where he was sentenced by the Yugoslav Supreme Military Court to three years imprisonment and two years of deprivation of civil rights after his conviction as a war criminal. At the Nuremberg Tribunals, Eichmann's deputy Dieter Wisliceny testified that the Mufti was one of the initiators of the extermination of European Jewry and a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of the "Final Solution." Husseini was one of Eichmann's closest friends and had constantly incited him to speed the extermination process. According to the Dieter testimony, he overheard Haj Amin and Eichmann visiting gas chambers at Auschwitz to learn its operation and possibly create a replica in Hebron. The Mufti established the Islamishe Zentralinstitut or "Islamic Institute" in Dresden, which served as grooming grounds for future Muslim-Nazi leaders. (Internet source The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the Nazification of the Arab world). Had the Third Reich continued to exist beyond 1945, one could only imagine the types of new Arab leadership that would import Islamo-fascist ideals in various Arab lands as they gained independence in the fifties and sixties.
http://www.faoa.org/journal/HajjHusseini.html
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