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Rangel: Islamofascist an Insult - 'You Never Called Hitler a Christian Fascist'
Hardball/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 08/11/2006 7:03:41 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

August 11, 2006 - 21:47

It doesn't take much to offend liberals' exquisite sensitivities. The latest? Referring to Islamofascists as . . . Islamofascists. Chris Matthews got the ball rolling on this evening's Hardball. But Charlie Rangel upped the ante to the max, managing to impugn Christians and Jews in the bargain. Fortunately, GOP Congressman Dan Lungren had the guts to call Rangel on it.

Matthews got things started by challenging Lungren: "Would you include Hezbollah in that group [of Islamofascists]? Would you include Hamas, they are they enemies of Israel. Are they also enemies of ours? Are they also fascists because they have a dispute with Israel? Anybody who is against us is a fascist now."

Chris, are you really asking whether Hezbollah, who killed 241 of our servicemen in Lebanon, is our enemy?

Rangel sent things to the moon a bit later with this line: "You take Islamic and you call them fascists, you call them radical. You never called Hitler a Christian fascist. This is insulting to an entire religion."

Lungren wouldn't be intimidated: "No it's not that at all, and that is absolute nonsense to say that."

Rangel wasn't finished: "We got Christian killers, we got Jewish killers, and we never identify them by religion. What you're doing is demonizing."

Demonizing, Charlie? What would you call the people who wanted to blow up thousands of innocents civilians over the Atlantic this week?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: California; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: charlierangel; chrismatthews; christians; danlungren; hamas; hardball; hezbollah; hitler; islamicnazis; islamofascist; islamofascists; islamonaziism; israel; jews; lebanon; looneyleft; msnbc; rangel; rangeltwit; typicaldumbass
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well, no, you dumbass, Rangel, because Hitler never used his religion as an excuse for his depravity.


141 posted on 08/11/2006 8:22:49 PM PDT by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
You never called Hitler a Christian fascist.

Well that term may fit Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

142 posted on 08/11/2006 8:30:08 PM PDT by feedback doctor (HATE - The core value of liberalism)
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To: vladimir998

Ol Charlie is just showing his ignorance and his biggotedness against Europeans. He assumes they all were Christians.


143 posted on 08/11/2006 8:31:10 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This idiot Rangel. And then there is CAIR more upset about our president referring to the terrorists as Islam Fascists than they were about the fact these facists planned to kill thousands in the name of Islam. Totally revealing of whose side they are on!!!


144 posted on 08/11/2006 8:32:08 PM PDT by landerwy
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hitler never invoked Christianity to justify his actions.


145 posted on 08/11/2006 8:32:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Madison and I have since worked things out amicably, but believe me, this is a recurring phenomenon.

I know it is and it is a problem. One way to avoid it is to make a comment about the post, whether you agree or disagree, something like "Rangel eats sh** and barks at the moon" should do it. This would be the first one that you fill in before actually posting:). Seriously, I don't post much any more because of the problem you are talking about!

146 posted on 08/11/2006 8:33:55 PM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
But there are cases of people aiming their insults directly at me - governs/Finkelstein.

Mark, this phenomenon has been going on for years, and doesn't just involve you. There are some few users on this forum who come to sip from the Fountain of Truth and vent about the world that they see about them. Their venting doesn't extend to deep analysis, they just want to whap on the perceived object of their frustration. If you'll notice, madison10 at first misspelled your name (Finklestein), and wouldn't have remembered you from Adam at your next (very frequent) posting.

I know you find it very hard (I would too), but don't take it personally. I also know that you are a very involved observer of the current scene, so therefore you are very wrapped up in your work, and take such slights at face value. I think your excellent work outweighs greatly the insults that are directed your way.

So, buck up, and know that you are making a difference. I know that madison10 will recognize you and your work in the future, and will be glad that you're out on the front lines for all of us.

Thanks again for your great contributions!

aas :-)

147 posted on 08/11/2006 8:40:27 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: sgtbono2002
...the Congressional Black caucus.

Anyone ever hear of a Congressional White caucus?

148 posted on 08/11/2006 8:41:03 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: calex59
Yep.
There was a great documentary on History Channel on 'Hitler and the Occult'. And literally hundreds of books documenting same. Not surprising in that a LOT of the Norse pagan imagery of Wagner worked its way into the ritual and philosophy of the Third Reich. My point only being that to state that Hitler never claimed to be a Christian and/or Catholic is to be in error.
149 posted on 08/11/2006 8:51:13 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: sauropod

No problem. That's why I posted the second post. I didn't want anyone to think I was talking about anyone here. Rangel is the moron - no doubt about it!


150 posted on 08/11/2006 8:55:16 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Rangel said he would resign if the demorats didn't take over the House in November. Then on Hannity and Colmes he did a big Kerry flip flop.


151 posted on 08/11/2006 8:58:38 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"Islamofascist" - it has a truthful ring to it...


152 posted on 08/11/2006 9:01:53 PM PDT by GOPJ (Al Gore - the original "Millions Could Die" kind of guy....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Charlie, Hitler was animated by something other than his reading of Christian theology. In fact, he was on his way to inventing his own theology. The Muslim terrorists are just perfecting his invention. JMO.


153 posted on 08/11/2006 9:05:03 PM PDT by Torie
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
'You Never Called Hitler a Christian Fascist'

I guess no one ever told Chuck that Hitler never called himself a Christian. If anything National Socialist were?are pagan.
154 posted on 08/11/2006 9:15:42 PM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
You never called Hitler a Christian fascist.

Correct-o-mundo, Chuck. You wouldn't call Hitler a Christian Fascist because Hitler was: 1) not a practicing Christian, and 2) constructed Nazi ideology completely outside the practices and theology of Christianity.

The same cannot be said about Islamofasists.
155 posted on 08/11/2006 9:19:11 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Dear Charlie Rangel,

True Christians reflect Christ.
True Muslims reflect Muhammed/Allah.

Now, I can explain to you the resemblence between Muhammed and a terrorist...Muhammed WAS a terrorist.

Will you please explain to me in what way Adolf Hitler reflects Jesus Christ?


156 posted on 08/11/2006 9:20:40 PM PDT by July4th64 ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Eccles. 10:2)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This man would hold the powerful Committee Chairmanship of the Ways and Means Committee if the Dems take control of the House.


157 posted on 08/11/2006 9:22:05 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Mr. Mojo; dirtboy
The downside of this is it will give him even more time to give speeches I this, and we'll get the..."privilege" of paying his retirement.
158 posted on 08/11/2006 9:22:11 PM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: taxesareforever; Mr. Mojo; dirtboy

see 151
Now why am I NOT suprised?


159 posted on 08/11/2006 9:24:28 PM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Charlie is as ignorant as a delta farmer but without the humility. He doesn't know the history connection between the Germans and the WWII leaders of Iraq, but can;t he draw conclusions by looking at the Hezbollah goosesteeping their way through the streets of Beirut?


160 posted on 08/11/2006 9:26:38 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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