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FBI Interested in Large Prepaid Cell Phone Purchases
WTRF-TV ^ | 8/3/2006 | Sarah Kapis

Posted on 08/08/2006 10:13:27 AM PDT by Ready2go

FBI Interested in Large Prepaid Cell Phone Purchases Posted 8/3/2006 06:06 PM

Store clerks in Grafton say people have been coming into their stores and buying several phones at a time. Story by Sarah Kapis Email | Bio

Folks at the Dollar General in Grafton say in the past few days, several men have come into the store attempting to buy large numbers of prepaid phones. However, store policy only allows a customer to buy two phones at a time, in fact, they are locked away from the general public.

The clerks say after they were in the Dollar General, the men went to the Grafton Walmart to try to purchase more of the phones.

Grafton police found one man during a traffic stop. They say he had hundreds of prepaid phones in his car.

There is no word on what the men planned to do with the phones or why they bought so many, but the incident was later turned over to the FBI for an investigation.

The owner of Country Roads Communications says the allure of the prepaid phones is the freedom that come with them. However, the FBI is not ready to say that the phones are being used for illegal or criminal purposes.

"Prepaids are hard to track, so they're used alot for illegal operations," said Vince Cafazza.

"We are aware that there are a number of purchases throughout the state. Large purchases of trac phones. We are interested in the purchases because they are unusual," said Dan Caldwell, FBI special agent. "We also understand that a number of the larger stores in the area are aware of the purchases. We are not aware of any criminal activity associated with the purchases at this point."

Caldwell says if you notice someone trying to buy large quantities of these type of phones, you can contact your local police or the FBI.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Ohio; US: West Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cellphones; counterterrorism; fbi; ohio; prepaidcellular; prepaidphones; privacy; wot
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To: LIConFem

A cell phone is not inherently dangerous, and the purchase of them in quantity is not illegal.

If the FBI does nothing for this legal purchase then why bother with the rest of war on terror. At some point common sense should be applied. Legal or not these hundreds of cell phones in the back of a car should raise some eyebrows and prompt further questioning I would think.

If the FBI is still in their law enforcement mode of investigating after an act of terror has taken place then we might as well throw in the towel now. If this/these men are on the up and up then so be it but question the driver at least. Maybe they have but their statement indicates a HO HUM attitude of "no crime has been committed"


221 posted on 08/08/2006 2:04:52 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Toby06
Chip, chip, chip away at our rights. Where does it end?

To which "right" do you refer, the imagined "Right to Keep and Bear Cellphones"? Why waste time arguing in defense of something which doesn't even exist?

222 posted on 08/08/2006 2:06:00 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: Toby06; MineralMan
I have bought several hundred tons of ANFO in my life, and have never been investigated

Toby06
ANFO stands for ammonium nitrate/fuel oil. Buying it pre-mixed, are you ? There are NO LEGITIMATE uses for buying "several hundred tons" ammonium nitrate mixed with fuel oil as you have clearly claimed. You were the one to use the term "ANFO", no one else has.
223 posted on 08/08/2006 2:12:22 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: TomGuy

And the FBI is currently looking for 11 Egyptian students who failed to show up for a language seminar in Montana.

Jeez, the more I read some of the recent news the more upset I get at our lax attitude RE: immigration, illegals, visa non procedures, no check before, during or after granting visas, no apparent contact phones, addresses or persons in the U.S. who could vouch for or who have sponsored visa holders.

Is our system so broken that even during the war on terror we seem to not have any ability or will to guard borders or guard against people whose profile indicates a higher risk.

I'd say that people from any Arab country entering our country should raise some flags and cause more intense scrutiny. If 80% of the populations of Arab nations hates the U.S. then wouldn't it follow that possibly 80% of those who enter our country from those countries may be risk factors.

We're at war for crying out loud and our State dept. just plods along with business as usual.

Folks, we're going to have to get hit BIG TIME again. It appears that only then will we get serious and start acting like we're concerned.

I'm convinced that only another 9/11 will wake us up.


224 posted on 08/08/2006 2:14:10 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: LIConFem

And so they should be outlawed?

Common sense should reflect suspicion that hundreds of cell phones in the back of a car, purchased retail, is not normal and at least further questioning and checking is in order.

It's not a matter of them being legal. It's a matter of asking why there are hundreds in the back of one's car. Don't you think that a few questions are in order here?


225 posted on 08/08/2006 2:17:34 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: MineralMan

Hmmm... may be just that we don't buy enough stuff on a regular basis to get wholesale prices. We do mostly software so we just tend to order stuff we need out of the catalogs.


226 posted on 08/08/2006 2:21:03 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: LIConFem

Don't you think there are a few thousand other ways to accomplish the same thing?

So, are you saying that no questions should be asked? Then why bother with trying to guard against any kind of terror activity. They'll just use another way to get us.
We might as well give up. If anything seems or looks suspicious we should do nothing without probably cause or unless a crime has been committed.

Let's just throw in the towel and forget about applying common sense to any incident where no crime has been committed. That would also rule out searches anywhere including the airports, stadiums, undergrounds etc. They'll just use another way to get us...why bother.


227 posted on 08/08/2006 2:23:16 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Toby06
A hundred ham hocks in the back of your car is kind of odd too, but nobody's GD business. I am not siding with terrorists, but this is America, land of the free, and all that. I want the damn government to leave me the hell alone. And the thinking above will get us all killed over one person's objection to even being questioned over unusual activity. Let's just say that if I responded to the above statement the way I really feel I would be breaking an awful lot of posting rules. By God, it is the peoples business to ask questions of suspicous activity. If you're not even willing to be asked a question over unusual behavior then we're all done for my friend. We might as well throw in the towel so that you won't be inconvenienced by a simple question.
228 posted on 08/08/2006 2:33:27 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Joan Kerrey
More to make your blood boil:

Between the beginning of Fiscal Year 2001 and the mid-way point of Fiscal Year 2005, the DHS audit revealed that 605,210 individuals from countries "other than Mexico" (OTMs) were apprehended and 309,733 of that total were eventually released.

Above data from the linked article below:

Illegals From Terror-Sponsoring Nations At Large in US
  Posted by Diana in Wisconsin
On 08/08/2006 2:46:38 PM CDT · 14 replies · 318+ views


CNSNews ^ | August 8, 2006 | Kevin Mooney
(CNSNews.com) - Almost half of the illegal aliens arriving in the U.S. from terrorist-sponsoring or "special interest" nations in the past few years have been released into the American population following their apprehension. This key finding is published in an internal audit of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) obtained by Cybercast News Service . The so-called "catch and release" policies have allowed more than 45,000 illegal aliens from countries that are well known for their anti-American views or considered "hotbeds of Islamic fundamentalism" to be freed. U.S. Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas), in conversations with sheriffs operating along the Texas-Mexico...
 

229 posted on 08/08/2006 2:35:43 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: pyx
There are NO LEGITIMATE uses for buying "several hundred tons"

You ain't all that bright, are you?

230 posted on 08/08/2006 2:47:45 PM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: Joan Kerrey

So a citizen buying something in bulk is suspicious? LMFAO!!!

Go buy yourself a pocket copy of the constitution and bill of rights, will ya. Geez.

OK, so it doesn't reference cell phones, but maybe you'll catch a clue in there.


231 posted on 08/08/2006 2:49:45 PM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: Joan Kerrey

Lovely, you are on the "outlaw cellphones" bandwagon.

Ugh.


232 posted on 08/08/2006 2:52:05 PM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: Centurion2000
It's a freedom thing. Most tools of freedom can be misused. Why penalize everyone else for the actions of a few criminals?

I think it is a national security issue mostly!

The trouble to register the phones is far less intrusive IMO than the problems that exist if they are left unregistered which consists of enabling terror, drug deals and other criminality. We are not in a pre-9/11 world anymore and we can't IMO have unregistered phones in these times.

233 posted on 08/08/2006 3:01:00 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Joan Kerrey
Is our system so broken that even during the war on terror we seem to not have any ability or will to guard borders or guard against people whose profile indicates a higher risk
IMHO, yes

wouldn't it follow that possibly 80% of those who enter our country from those countries may be risk factors.
a definite certainty.

Don't you think that a few questions are in order here?
I wonder who will volunteer for that job?

We might as well give up. If anything seems or looks suspicious we should do nothing without probably cause or unless a crime has been committed.
I believe for as dumb as the US senate is.....even they may probably vote and approve such an authorization.

I'm convinced that only another 9/11 will wake us up.
at this point I don't know the answer to that question

234 posted on 08/08/2006 3:05:23 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Israel - protecting a piece of a civilized world from rocket firing maroons 'un'peace treaties sale)
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To: Ready2go

Is there a possibility that the cell phones purchased are connected to the 11-12 missing Egyptian "students?"


235 posted on 08/08/2006 3:07:13 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

"Is there a possibility that the cell phones purchased are connected to the 11-12 missing Egyptian "students?"

I would say it's a pretty good possibility along with the thousands of other ME's here.

I'd be looking for mass attacks...same day...same time clean across the USA & other countries they consider to be "their enemies".

I think it might be wise to stock up on a little extra food...just in case.


236 posted on 08/08/2006 3:15:29 PM PDT by Ready2go (Isa 5:20 Destruction is certain for those who say that evil is good and good is evil;)
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To: madison10
but probability would definitely rule .....
anything is a possibility........
yet the odds are low.
237 posted on 08/08/2006 3:17:05 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Israel - protecting a piece of a civilized world from rocket firing maroons 'un'peace treaties sale)
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To: Toby06

Suit yourself.


238 posted on 08/08/2006 3:20:52 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: madison10
should have added one more sentence to last post.... 'for as much as was asked concerning the cell phones'
239 posted on 08/08/2006 3:23:13 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Israel - protecting a piece of a civilized world from rocket firing maroons 'un'peace treaties sale)
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To: Toby06; MineralMan; Ready2go
Nice try at changing direction. Enlighten us. Give one legitimate usage for you buying Ammonium Nitrate mixed with Fuel Oil (AKA ANFO) as clearly you claim in Post #154. You're the one who specified ANFO.
240 posted on 08/08/2006 3:32:14 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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