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Sen. Collins Introduces Legislation To Stop Tobacco Shipments Through the Mail
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | August 7th, 2006 | Melissa Campanelli

Posted on 08/08/2006 5:32:31 AM PDT by SheLion

Senator Susan Collins introduced legislation on Aug. 3 to help crack down on illegal sales of tobacco to children by banning the shipment of cigarettes and other tobacco products through the U.S. mail.

Specifically, the bill would add cigarettes and smokeless tobacco to the U.S. Postal Service's list of restricted, non-mailable products. A first violation of mailing such a product would be liable for a civil penalty of up to $5,000 or 10 times the estimated retail value of the tobacco products, including all federal, state, and local taxes, whichever is highest. Civil penalties of up to $100,000 would be imposed for each subsequent violation.

The Senate went into recess on August 4.

This is not the first action taken against Internet sellers of cigarettes.

In January Philip Morris USA reached an agreement with a coalition of 37 Attorneys General aimed at combating the sale of the company’s cigarettes over the Internet and through the mails. In addition, in March 2005, the Attorneys Generals also announced that the major credit card companies had all agreed to stop processing credit card payments for the Internet retailers. And, later in the year, both DHL and UPS agreed to stop shipping packages for the vendors engaged in these illegal sales.

The USPS has continued to ship cigarettes because under postal law packages are sealed against inspection unless there is probable cause, according to USPS spokesman Gerry McKiernan

In September 2005, the agency adopted a formal policy recognizing that it cannot knowingly permit mail to be used to further activities deemed unlawful by state and federal authorities. As a result, the agency currently makes it illegal to mail alcoholic beverages and guns.

However, the USPS policy authorizes postal employees to accept packages suspected of containing untaxed or under-taxed cigarettes because, there could be souvenirs in the package. However, “its pretty obvious if it’s a gun, don’t you think,” asked Mr. McKiernan.

If enacted, McKiernan, “we will comply, but we hope guidance will be offered on how we can effectively enforce this legislation.”

Sen. Collins said Internet sales of tobacco are growing, but effective safeguards against illegal sales to young people are virtually non- existent on the more than 400 websites selling tobacco, making it easier and cheaper for kids to buy cigarettes.

She added that the delivery of cigarettes and other tobacco products through the mail creates opportunities for tax evasion.

Collins said that 20 percent of cigarette-selling Websites do not say anything about sales to minors being prohibited and more than half require only that the buyer say they are of legal age. Another 15 percent require that the buyer type in their date of birth and only 7 percent require any drivers license information.

Collins said Internet "stings" conducted by Attorneys General in at least 15 states found that children as young as 9-years-old are able to purchase cigarettes easily. Moreover, since Internet cigarette vendors typically require a two-carton minimum purchase, many high school and middle school buyers of Internet tobacco also end up serving as suppliers of cigarettes to other kids.

In March, Senator Charles E. Schumer, D-NY, and New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer announced that they had teamed up to support legislation to stop the shipment of cigarettes and smokeless tobacco through the U.S. Mail.
Schumer said his bill would prohibit mailing cigarettes through the USPS, impose fines of at least $1,000 per offense and jail time for repeat offenders, and give state Attorneys General the ability to pursue those who ship tobacco in violation of the law.

The bill has not yet been introduced.


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To: harpu
Sen. Collins Introduces Legislation To Stop Tobacco Shipments Through the Mail

41 posted on 08/08/2006 6:11:39 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: martin_fierro

Yea really! Bend over!


42 posted on 08/08/2006 6:12:26 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: dakine
When they came for the smokers, I didn't say a word, because I wasn't a smoker...

Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

Hilarious stuff!

43 posted on 08/08/2006 6:13:20 AM PDT by Publius6961 (overwhelming force behaving underwhelmingly is a waste.)
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To: untrained skeptic
The usual ingenuine claims that it's for the welfare of the children.

It's really all about the tax money.

This business that it's about the children is getting pretty old!


44 posted on 08/08/2006 6:13:53 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: RandallFlagg
If you're going to that much trouble, make it a little larger...


45 posted on 08/08/2006 6:15:40 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: RandallFlagg; metesky
So what? Why all of a sudden are you folks concerned about what the Post Office may or may not deliver?

The self centeredness of the smokers agenda is so transparent.
46 posted on 08/08/2006 6:16:31 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: seasoned traditionalist
However, for those of you who are not smokers and could care less, sooner or later, if this does occur, ALL of the revenues which are now being collected from smokers--and which simply go into the general revenues to pay for all of the "programs" which these morons implement) will have to be made up by someone. And guess who that "someone" will be?

You are very smart.  We have been trying and trying to tell our anti-FReepers just this.  They laugh at us, but let me tell you, when cigarette revenue dwindles in the state coffers, guess what!  These anti-FReepers are going to be hit and hit hard.

But............we tried to tell them!  Let's see how they think we smokers stink THEN! heh!

47 posted on 08/08/2006 6:18:20 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

Simple solution Tax the Meth , then she will worry about that.


48 posted on 08/08/2006 6:18:33 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Raycpa
Maybe you should stick with familiar territory, instead of tasation. Of course, your name says it all. No tax collection, no need to keep track... We call that a "vested interest" in perpetuating something!


49 posted on 08/08/2006 6:19:45 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: RandallFlagg

That's pretty neat, Randall!!!! I like it!


50 posted on 08/08/2006 6:20:02 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

Doesn't Maine already have the highest tax burden in the US?

(Maybe some other state is sneaking up on first place and Susie wants to make sure Maine stays in the lead.)


51 posted on 08/08/2006 6:22:28 AM PDT by CPOSharky (MSM - Live hizbozo = fierce fighter. Dead hizbozo = innocent civilian.)
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To: SheLion

Collins is a total RINO. She will want to regulate the Internet and blogs such as this, next/also. She thinks government knows best, just like socialist Hillary Klinton.


52 posted on 08/08/2006 6:23:31 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: pageonetoo

Naa. That itty bitty greenhouse is the perfect size to supply enough for two smokers. Any more and they'd just go bad.

I can't sell the tobacco I grow without a license. Illegal.


53 posted on 08/08/2006 6:24:52 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Raycpa

You must live in a tree. "The self centeredness of the smokers agenda is so transparent." There are only special interests, and the most special interest of all is me.


54 posted on 08/08/2006 6:29:25 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: RandallFlagg
I worked in a tobacco field when I was a kid. I have helped tie and fill a barn (no smell on earth is more pleasant than roasting tobacco, and the bard keeps it for years!). I hope you have a good heater, and the skills to make it perfect.

I've rolled many a leaf, and never used a paper! Now, I buy them already rolled!!!


55 posted on 08/08/2006 6:30:11 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: SheLion

No, in fact I would be completely opposed to that.


56 posted on 08/08/2006 6:30:43 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

So you are saying it's NOT the responsiblity of the parents to police their kids activities and the 'nanny state' government should do it for them?

Yeah. Just what we need. MORE government control of our lives.

This is complete BS. It's NOT for the kids. It's for the TAXES!


57 posted on 08/08/2006 6:30:45 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: CPOSharky
Doesn't Maine already have the highest tax burden in the US?

I just read an article where Maine is the third highest tax state in the Union.   We have gluttons in the state house.

58 posted on 08/08/2006 6:31:11 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
I can actually see a good reason for this - keeping kids from buying cigarettes

And thus you have bought the shiny wrapper of a tax bill. If the aim is to prevent children from purchasing cigarettes, aim the penalties towards sales to minors. But the bill doesn't do that. If mommy and daddy want to give a credit card to a minor (hey, you could also shut down that avenue), let them take the heat if junior abuses it by purchasing contraband. But you do not close off something to thousands of adults because one or two enterprising youts find a way to beat the system. I find your post at odds with your screenname ... 'sup wid dat?

59 posted on 08/08/2006 6:31:55 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Tom Gallagher, the anti-Crist [FL 2006 Governor race])
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To: martin_fierro

Is that picture even anatomically possible?

It looks like that rhino needs a step-ladder.


60 posted on 08/08/2006 6:32:25 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush II --> Appeasing Islam for 27 years)
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