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Sen. Collins Introduces Legislation To Stop Tobacco Shipments Through the Mail
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | August 7th, 2006 | Melissa Campanelli

Posted on 08/08/2006 5:32:31 AM PDT by SheLion

Senator Susan Collins introduced legislation on Aug. 3 to help crack down on illegal sales of tobacco to children by banning the shipment of cigarettes and other tobacco products through the U.S. mail.

Specifically, the bill would add cigarettes and smokeless tobacco to the U.S. Postal Service's list of restricted, non-mailable products. A first violation of mailing such a product would be liable for a civil penalty of up to $5,000 or 10 times the estimated retail value of the tobacco products, including all federal, state, and local taxes, whichever is highest. Civil penalties of up to $100,000 would be imposed for each subsequent violation.

The Senate went into recess on August 4.

This is not the first action taken against Internet sellers of cigarettes.

In January Philip Morris USA reached an agreement with a coalition of 37 Attorneys General aimed at combating the sale of the company’s cigarettes over the Internet and through the mails. In addition, in March 2005, the Attorneys Generals also announced that the major credit card companies had all agreed to stop processing credit card payments for the Internet retailers. And, later in the year, both DHL and UPS agreed to stop shipping packages for the vendors engaged in these illegal sales.

The USPS has continued to ship cigarettes because under postal law packages are sealed against inspection unless there is probable cause, according to USPS spokesman Gerry McKiernan

In September 2005, the agency adopted a formal policy recognizing that it cannot knowingly permit mail to be used to further activities deemed unlawful by state and federal authorities. As a result, the agency currently makes it illegal to mail alcoholic beverages and guns.

However, the USPS policy authorizes postal employees to accept packages suspected of containing untaxed or under-taxed cigarettes because, there could be souvenirs in the package. However, “its pretty obvious if it’s a gun, don’t you think,” asked Mr. McKiernan.

If enacted, McKiernan, “we will comply, but we hope guidance will be offered on how we can effectively enforce this legislation.”

Sen. Collins said Internet sales of tobacco are growing, but effective safeguards against illegal sales to young people are virtually non- existent on the more than 400 websites selling tobacco, making it easier and cheaper for kids to buy cigarettes.

She added that the delivery of cigarettes and other tobacco products through the mail creates opportunities for tax evasion.

Collins said that 20 percent of cigarette-selling Websites do not say anything about sales to minors being prohibited and more than half require only that the buyer say they are of legal age. Another 15 percent require that the buyer type in their date of birth and only 7 percent require any drivers license information.

Collins said Internet "stings" conducted by Attorneys General in at least 15 states found that children as young as 9-years-old are able to purchase cigarettes easily. Moreover, since Internet cigarette vendors typically require a two-carton minimum purchase, many high school and middle school buyers of Internet tobacco also end up serving as suppliers of cigarettes to other kids.

In March, Senator Charles E. Schumer, D-NY, and New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer announced that they had teamed up to support legislation to stop the shipment of cigarettes and smokeless tobacco through the U.S. Mail.
Schumer said his bill would prohibit mailing cigarettes through the USPS, impose fines of at least $1,000 per offense and jail time for repeat offenders, and give state Attorneys General the ability to pursue those who ship tobacco in violation of the law.

The bill has not yet been introduced.


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To: SheLion
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21 posted on 08/08/2006 5:50:20 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SheLion
Senator Susan Collins introduced legislation on Aug. 3 to help crack down on illegal sales of tobacco to children by banning the shipment of cigarettes and other tobacco products through the U.S. mail.

  1. The check is in the mail
  2. Of course I'll still respect you
  3. I promise I won't ......
  4. It's for the children
How can you tell when a Kongress creep is lying? Answer - their lips move.

You'd better believe it's about taxes, taxes, taxes, and more taxes. Government needs more money? JUST LET THEM SPEND LESS!!

22 posted on 08/08/2006 5:54:08 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: SheLion
The usual ingenuine claims that it's for the welfare of the children.

It's really all about the tax money.

23 posted on 08/08/2006 5:55:08 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: harpu

S.3816
Title: A bill to prohibit the shipment of tobacco products in the mail, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Collins, Susan M. [ME] (introduced 8/3/2006) Cosponsors (None)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d109:46:./temp/~bdnkIg::


24 posted on 08/08/2006 5:55:28 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: harpu

see also:
S.3810
Title: A bill to prevent tobacco smuggling, to ensure the collection of all tobacco taxes, and for other purposes.


25 posted on 08/08/2006 5:56:36 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: All

26 posted on 08/08/2006 5:59:36 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: NonValueAdded
Everybody who knows who Townsend was raise their hand.


27 posted on 08/08/2006 5:59:49 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: JamesP81
If I buy something on the net from a company that is out of state, the state I'm in doesn't get any sales tax.

Well, there's an easy fix to that! In my state (and many others), we are required to report all of our out-of-state purchases on our state income tax form, and to pay the state sales tax on them.

28 posted on 08/08/2006 6:01:00 AM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: sgtbono2002; SheLion
Ya mean it's not about the poor defenceless kiddies? I'm shocked, shocked I tell ya!
29 posted on 08/08/2006 6:01:39 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: SheLion
"She added that the delivery of cigarettes and other tobacco products through the mail creates opportunities for tax evasion.

Now tell us the truth, Susie Dear, is it about the Chillen or about the $$$$$

You phony, RINO, political-hack, B*tch

They are ALL alike. They pretend that they want to tax smokers to death (pun intended) while advocating that this will reduce consumption and raise revenue for "Anti-Smoking" programs aimed at reducing smoking among children.

Yet, it is a fact, that ALMOST ALL of the revenues these money-grubbing, phony, nanny-state, liberal, tax and spend, doo-doo gooders, received from the MULTI BILLION settlement (as well as current revenues) simply go to augment the general revenues.

Give me a break, already!!!

Either make it Illegal, or ease off, otherwise, I predict a resurgence of the same type of activity which was prevalent in the era of prohibition, which by the way, led to a massive increase in criminal gangs and criminal pursuits, as well as "criminalize" millions of users of a "legal" product, simply for choosing to purchase this product from other sources which does not impose (or require the payments of) confiscatory taxes.

What is obvious (from someone who studied business in college as opposed to the history of the tsi tsi fly or basket weaving as it appears is the case from most of the liberal arts crowd who matriculate into politics) these morons know nothing about Economics in general and specifically, the "Law of Diminishing Returns."

If "they" (as they so disingenuously advocate) continue to increase the taxes in order to decrease the number of smokers, sooner or later, the population which they are targeting in order to raise said revenues, will diminish to the point whereby the amount of revenues, will also decrease, unless the amount of taxes continues to increase, proportionately, with the numbers of smokers who are left.

However, for those of you who are not smokers and could care less, sooner or later, if this does occur, ALL of the revenues which are now being collected from smokers--and which simply go into the general revenues to pay for all of the "programs" which these morons implement) will have to be made up by someone. And guess who that "someone" will be?

30 posted on 08/08/2006 6:01:47 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist (ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY, ARE MUSLIMS)
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To: Vaquero
We have $4 gas coming. Islamicist are plotting our distruction from within and without. The Mexican border is wide open and 10's of Millions of them are here illegally and this stupid TWIT is worried about cigarettes.

What a country.

Yep! And the following map is outdated, because many more Mosque's have moved in across the United States since this map was published.

But, like you said "this twit is worried about cigarettes."  What a dumb arze she is.


31 posted on 08/08/2006 6:01:55 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: pageonetoo
Thanks but...here's what I got when I went for the text of the bill
32 posted on 08/08/2006 6:02:25 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: SheLion
Senator Susan Collins introduced legislation on Aug. 3 to help crack down on illegal sales of tobacco to children...

Sometimes, very early in the morning, even the best comedy has no effect.

I believe that this article ties in nicely with this other one:

Elected Crooks

33 posted on 08/08/2006 6:03:22 AM PDT by Publius6961 (overwhelming force behaving underwhelmingly is a waste.)
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To: sgtbono2002
I was going to say that Maine is probably losing a few bucks in tax money. Collins is trying to make it look like she is doing it for the children . When in reality its all about the MONEY.

Yes! ALL about the money!  The kids up here are more worried about getting meth and prescription drugs.  We have a HUGE problem with kids and meth up here, and yet she is worried about CIGARETTES????  Something doesn't pass the smell test.

34 posted on 08/08/2006 6:03:40 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Raycpa
As you damn well know, UPS and the other private carriers have already caved to the pressure and started supplying the states with their customer lists and Master Card won't accept cigarette orders.

Don't play dumb. (You're probably not playing)

35 posted on 08/08/2006 6:05:27 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Fresh Wind
Let me see. If the tax is $2 per pack, if you buy 10 packs, that's $20. But they only tax you $10 per carton of 10 packs. In other words, they are encouraging you to buy and smoke more cigarettes. That makes perfect sense.

Sorry.  Type O.  My mistake.  You are right. $20 Maine taxes on one carton of cigarettes.  Thanks for catching that for me.

36 posted on 08/08/2006 6:05:30 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Raycpa
Can't I still buy cigarettes and have them delivered by UPS or other carrier?

Not when UPS and other carriers are threatened by overzealous state attorney generals with lawsuits and, "Volunteer," to stop shipping tobacco products.

37 posted on 08/08/2006 6:06:29 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: harpu
When I hit your link I found the source (of your post) but not the actual verbiage of your post...can you help us find the 'real deal'?

Sen. Collins Introduces Legislation To Stop Tobacco Shipments Through the Mail

38 posted on 08/08/2006 6:07:52 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
So, while I'm not in favor of high taxes, I could theoretically support this legislation (but not until I know a little more about what all it entails).

I guess you would be for Maine wanting to collect taxes from ALL things bought from the Internet and ALL things ordered from catalogs as well??!!

39 posted on 08/08/2006 6:10:07 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

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Model FHFH700
Price: $325.00/ea Price includes shipping!

I figure I can get about thirty plants in one of these for next year.

40 posted on 08/08/2006 6:11:05 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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