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Science Fiction has become a poisoned well . .
7-27-06 | Marc Costanzo

Posted on 07/27/2006 6:49:43 PM PDT by marc costanzo

The essay below was originally written in the early Spring of 2001:

With the passing away of LEXX ends an intriguing albeit tawdry experiment in Sci-fantasy. One that breaks with conventions, or should I say cliches of TV sci-fi of the 90's . The politically correct pabulum, the multicultural indoctrination, the BladeRunner motifs, and not the least; the steroid mutated superbabes that can punch the lights out of men, but never get punched back in return !?

How about creating a new sci-fi anthology with none of the puerile baggage of Rod Serling, Rockne Obannon, Michael J. Stracinsky, etc .. It is time to end their reign of un-American cynicism and fatalism !


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To: Oztrich Boy

Jennifer Garner?


381 posted on 07/31/2006 3:50:10 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: DBrow
Hehe, I got all excited about a Ringworld series and then I thought of that absolutely dreadful "The Starlost" (written by Harlan Ellison if I recall correctly) back in the 70s.

The more things change the more they stay the same....Canadian productions are still about as bad as it gets.
382 posted on 07/31/2006 4:00:18 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that all others are jackasses.)
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To: marc costanzo

bump to read later.


383 posted on 07/31/2006 5:11:02 AM PDT by winodog (Who will stop Bubba and the Beast in 08?)
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To: mdmathis6
Jennifer Garner?

Too old (she's almost 6 months older than Claudia)

Seriously, I don't think she has the emotional range for the part. whereas Claudia's work on Farscape and SG-1 has demonstrated that range.

384 posted on 07/31/2006 6:08:32 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Red meat, we were meant to eat it - Meat and Livestock Australia)
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To: Oztrich Boy
>>Jennifer Garner?
Too old (she's almost 6 months older than Claudia)

Seriously, I don't think she has the emotional range for the part. whereas Claudia's work on Farscape and SG-1 has demonstrated that range.
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Jen Garner, Claudia Black, they are both she-male freaks, typical of the Sci-Fi genre in the last 20 years since Jim Cameron(a Canadian fittingly) created that gender reversal 'who's-in-command' action film ALIENS !

Neither of these so-called actresses has much range or depth, at least in my opinion !
385 posted on 07/31/2006 12:17:05 PM PDT by marc costanzo
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To: Proud_texan

>>Hehe, I got all excited about a Ringworld series and then I thought of that absolutely dreadful "The Starlost" (written by Harlan Ellison if I recall correctly) back in the 70s.

The more things change the more they stay the same....Canadian productions are still about as bad as it gets.
<<

STARLOST ?

A TV series from the 1970's ?

Did that series have as on of its' cast, actor Kier Dullea ?

You know him, from 2001 ! ?


386 posted on 07/31/2006 12:22:18 PM PDT by marc costanzo
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To: marc costanzo
"Did that series have as on of its' cast, actor Kier Dullea ?"

Indeed one in the same. His performance in Starlost made his acting in 2001 appear to be absolutely animated.

Man that was terrible but somehow I managed to watch it every time it was on. Go figure.

387 posted on 07/31/2006 2:31:44 PM PDT by Proud_texan (Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that all others are jackasses.)
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To: marc costanzo
Jen Garner, Claudia Black, they are both she-male freaks, typical of the Sci-Fi genre in the last 20 years

Hee! you old Libercratian, you.

Alias (2001) (ABC) - College girl sells her soul to the CIA. The actress in the violent porno filth prostitutes herself to the androgynous, fascist propagandists as a violent bitch to provoke violence against females, and in particular to dishonor American women. In one of the obscene promos they showed the violent whore in sexy clothes posing in a lurid manner alternating between her committing violence, with the song American Woman playing. Any network that promotes a disgraceful slutty piece of violent trash like this as an example of an "American Woman" must be boycotted and condemned by all Americans, as an insult and a disgrace to American women. - Misogyny on TV Feminazi Propaganda
Sounds like my kind of show, so why don't I like it more than "yeah OK I guess"?

marc, it's contempary miitary drams, not SF, bur check Red Cap. I'm sure you'll fall in love with Jo McDonagh

388 posted on 07/31/2006 5:43:50 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Red meat, we were meant to eat it - Meat and Livestock Australia)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Wow!

The person that authored that website has some seriously scary issues.

389 posted on 07/31/2006 6:08:07 PM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: Proud_texan

I am not sure, but I think that I saw a few episodes of this low energy static sci-fi melodrama on the Sci-Fi channel back in 1994 ? ? ?

Sure was dull . Kier(or is it Keir) Dullea also starred in a very early slasher film from that time, I forgot its' name - - it co-starred Margot Kidder and Art Hindle .

This movie was a predecessor to Halloween and Friday the 13th ~ well maybe ! ?


390 posted on 07/31/2006 6:15:04 PM PDT by marc costanzo ("Love & Hunger, rule the world" -- Yevgeny Zamyatin's 'WE')
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To: Oztrich Boy; All
Before I checkout that website(misogyny fems) I would like to say that the obvious truth is that all of the sci-fi horror of the past 20 years is violently MISANTHROPIC !

In 1986, it began, these Femb!tches started leading men around by the nose, rem: ALIENS, the Sigourney Weaver character Ripley ?
Do you also remember STARDREK IV The Voyage Home - -
the last act where the character slapped hard that man who was in charge of the marine exhibit ?
The director(I forget his name) placed so much emphasis on that scene that he had it repeated several time - - that actor developed a bloody nose after being slapped by the female actor several times !

We see this kind of misanthropic violence in ALL of the Sci-Fi movies and TV series since then !

These b!tches never get their lights punched out in return ?
How affirmative action !
391 posted on 07/31/2006 6:25:01 PM PDT by marc costanzo ("Love & Hunger, rule the world" -- Yevgeny Zamyatin's 'WE')
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To: marc costanzo

The future is not written , the future is unformed . . .


For the Future you have to go back to the past, say 1930
or so. Astounding! or any one of the myriad publications
when there were no limits.


392 posted on 07/31/2006 6:27:33 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: marc costanzo
Your entire premise is faulty. Star Trek had a GIANT (HA! Got one past the huge police)impact on the future. Flip phones, scientists exploring the possibilities of warp travel, medical advances that I can't even begin to list here, social patterns and even NASA programs - no matter how misguided. STNG did an episode 12 years ago named "I Borg." It was a direct correlation to the current WOT - so right on target it is scary.

The current scifi treats include DR. Who, Battlestar Galactica and yes SG versions. BG can in NO way be deemed politically correct. SG is very politically correct due to the younger audiences it draws. Firefly and the movie Serenity are outstanding comments on the human condition. Even the new Eureka has some interesting takes on the human condition. Maybe you should go read Dune again or better yet suffer through the movie and get your warp field centered. :-)

393 posted on 07/31/2006 6:29:33 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: All

This is the original essay, in whole, that I wrote in early 2001 !
To be sure, the original writing has been cleaned up of typos over the years . .




With the passing away of LEXX ends an intriguing albeit tawdry experiment in Sci-fantasy. One that breaks with conventions, or should I say cliches of TV sci-fi of the 90's . The politically correct pabulum, the multicultural indoctrination, the BladeRunner motifs, and not the least; the steroid mutated superbabes that can punch the lights out of men, but never get punched back in return !? ~ ~ How about creating a new sci-fi anthology with none of the puerile baggage of Rod Serling, Rockne Obannon, Michael J. Stracinsky, etc .. It is time to end their reign of unAmerican , cynicism and fatalism ...

Let us create a future of infinite possibilities devoid of the agenda of the social engineers who work their corruption on us thru the one way world of television .
A world where anything is possible , but not everything is possible . Anything can happen , but not all things can happen at once . That is what 'Time' is for , to keep all things from happening at the same moment . That shall be the only rule of our new fantasy world . That an event happens only once . What has been done , cannot be undone . There is no turning back the sands of time . You can review the past but you cannot change the past . That a vision of a possible future - to the present , must be taken in the context of the present . A Cosmos not governed by compassion or tolerance or equality , but common sense and merit . A Universe of strange and totally new lifeforms and not distorted reflections of human characters , just to make some social allegory ----
THAT is the insipid barren road of Political Correctness that Sci-fi entertainment has been a slave to for so many years . The future is not the current events of our world thrown into Outer Space .

The future is not with the Liberals , not with the Multiculturalists (both hate America) , and it is certainly not to be found in some cheapo TV production made in Canada ! The future is not written , the future is unformed . . .

With much thought and reflection,

-'C'-


394 posted on 07/31/2006 6:36:49 PM PDT by marc costanzo ("Love & Hunger, rule the world" -- Yevgeny Zamyatin's 'WE')
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To: mad_as_he$$
>>Your entire premise is faulty. Star Trek had a GIANT (HA! Got one past the huge police)impact on the future. Flip phones, scientists exploring the possibilities of warp travel, medical advances that I can't even begin to list here, social patterns and even NASA programs - no matter how misguided. STNG did an episode 12 years ago named "I Borg." It was a direct correlation to the current WOT - so right on target it is scary.
The current scifi treats include DR. Who, Battlestar Galactica and yes SG versions. BG can in NO way be deemed politically correct.
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DEAD WRONG, all wrong !

Pseudo-history - - the 'communicator' inspired the Cell Phone ? BULL !

The Phaser inspired SDI !
Bull !

The Holodeck inspired 'Virtual Reality' !
Bullsh!t .

I have heard this garbage from interviews from such egomaniacs as Will Shatner, and Leonard (stonebrow acting)Nimoy before ~ ~

If you make a lot of vague predictions(outlines)about the future,
sooner or later, some of them will come out true . . Battlestar Galactica was very PC, in a passive way ! By today' standards, these shows from the PAST, may seems unliberal, and that show how far the popular media has corroded our values over the last four decades . . . . . . .
395 posted on 07/31/2006 6:46:09 PM PDT by marc costanzo ("Love & Hunger, rule the world" -- Yevgeny Zamyatin's 'WE')
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To: tet68

>>The future is not written , the future is unformed . . .


For the Future you have to go back to the past, say 1930
or so. Astounding! or any one of the myriad publications
when there were no limits.<<

Science Fiction is like 'Cold Reading' . .

If you make alot of vague ambigous pedictions about the future, then sooner or later, some will come true !

That is how 'prophecies' work - - from Nostradamus to Jonathan Edwards - -
make a whole lot of generic statements that are nebulous and and all encompassing !


396 posted on 07/31/2006 6:50:55 PM PDT by marc costanzo ("Love & Hunger, rule the world" -- Yevgeny Zamyatin's 'WE')
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To: marc costanzo
No not the cell phone THE FLIP PHONE. Never mentioned SDI. Never said Holodeck. Humm do you know that there is a CURRENT Battlestar Galactica? Which is the one I am referring to. Have your watched Firefly or Dr. Who? Yea if you make enough predictions but what about all of the scifi books and stories prior to TV? Did you like The Twilight Zone?

If you want to criticize me then at least use the examples I cited to do it.

397 posted on 07/31/2006 7:09:48 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: mad_as_he$$

>>No not the cell phone THE FLIP PHONE. Never mentioned SDI. Never said Holodeck. Humm do you know that there is a CURRENT Battlestar Galactica? Which is the one I am referring to. Have your watched Firefly or Dr. Who? Yea if you make enough predictions but what about all of the scifi books and stories prior to TV? Did you like The Twilight Zone?
If you want to criticize me then at least use the examples I cited to do it.

<<

If you want me to list specific examples(which I have over the course of this thread) of the sci-fi movies & TV seris I was watched or seen over the past 30+ years, then that would take all day and several pages of this thread !

Todays BSG, is uberPC, uberLeftwing, Uber-UnAmerican !
Like just about everything we get from Canada .

I have seen ALL of the original episodes of Twilight Zone,
Star Trek, (old)BattleStar Galactica, (old)Outer Limits,
Lost In Space, SPACE:1999,[these Canadian plagiarists remake that one too !], Buck Roger(first season, wow!) second season(piss), Voyage To The Bottom of the Sea . .

I have seen ALL of the original episodes of DR WHO from 1970 to 1989 - - I like them far more than the new series !

Sci-Fi from the 1960's to the 1990's to today,
has gone from Liberal, ultraliberal, Leftist, uberLeftist !

Dark themed to the hyper-paranoid
(Kolchak to X-Files)

From mildly unAmerican(1983's V and 1987's Max Headroom) to the hyper-hateful(WILD PALMS, 'V' For Vendetta) against our country . .


Science Fiction Entertainment has gone from Leftwing-Liberal social criticisms in the 1960's by teleplay writers like Harlan Ellison and Charles Beaumont(Twilight Zone) to the 'toxic pollution of our civilization' ! !

If you hate America, express it in a low budget Sci-Fi TV series and make it in Canada ! ! ! !


398 posted on 07/31/2006 9:32:02 PM PDT by marc costanzo ("The Way to Destroy a People, You Destroy Their Past" - - Solzhenitzen)
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To: Oztrich Boy; All

>>Policewoman (70s)
Get Christy Love (70s)
Charlie's Angels (80s) - Sexy chics with guns. The show was criticized not for the violence but because of the way the women looked. In this society, violence is promoted to women while sexuality and non-violent, moral courage is criticized. Among the many barbaric and obscene shows, one featured women playing tackle football.
Private Benjamin (80s) - Comic bimbo plays soldier.
Punky Brewster (80s) - Tomboy
Cagney and Lacey (80s) - Two old fat bitches waddle around pretending to be cops and assuming the audience will still see them as women also, ha.
Miami Vice (80s) - Vain male and female cops prostituting themselves as political thugs at war against consenting adult activities.
Hill Street Blues (80s) (NBC)
CHiPS (80s)
T.J. Hooker (80s) (ABC)
In the Heat of the Night (80s)
Mighty Morphan Power Rangers (90s) (FOX) - Boys and girls morph into androgynous creatures to encourage violence between boys and girls in real life. This is unquestionably the most obvious androgynous propaganda show that has even been on television. Death to the makers and supporters of this anti-human, immoral, child abusing hell.
A teen girl on jeopardy said when she was younger she was forced (forced was her word) to watch Power Rangers and because of it took up karate and became a black belt -- the crowd cheered.
The death of at least one girl has been attributed to the show. Several years ago when the Power Rangers were popular I heard on TV about a gang of pre-teen boys in England who beat a little girl to death and later claimed they were just playing Power Rangers and they got carried away.
The makers of social poison like this should be sued for intentionally marketing violence to children, especially when there is a link that demonstrates that the show encouraged violence.
Phil Phillips who wrote "The Truth about Power Rangers" said: "This is the worst 30 minute kids program I have reviewed in over 11 years. Power Rangers is shot on cheap sets, jampacked with violence, acid rock music, martial arts, sexual immuendos the occult, and a piffing moral at the end of each program to add to its politically correct reputation."
Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters From Beverly Hills (1994)
L.A.P.D. (1995)
L.A. Heat (1996)
High Incident (1996)
Buffy, The Vampire Slayer (90s) - Dumbass teen bitch's obsession with violence. Femininity exploitation show. They create a "cutesy" teen character to use to attack feminine identity using anti-feminine stereotypes as straw men to fight against, the idiotic vampires are just the excuse--their real enemy is femininity.
Cleopatra 2525 (90s) - Porno-looking whores on a violent rampage in futuristic nonsense plots.
Pensacola, Wings of Gold (90s) - Mercenary-terrorist propaganda show. Promotes the androgynous communist disgrace that the U.S. military has become that makes it an enemy of the human family. Portrays women as men, promotes the insane communist idea of women in combat and pretends that there is no difference between males and females. The eunuch males which are shown as being attracted to and having relationships with the amazon freaks are nothing but queers desiring men in women's bodies. This type of perversion is even more immoral and dishonest than shows about homosodomites, its much more destructive to society and the family.
J.A.G. (90s) - Mercenary-terrorist propaganda show.
Space: Above and Beyond (90s) - Sci-fi vision of a horrible future, with the United States as an evil empire that has extended its malevolent power into space and totally perverted the human species by brainwashing their subjects into thinking that men and women are the same. It shows men and women training and fighting in a space war. This evil empire threatens the future and what it means to be human. The real horror is that what is portrayed on film is occurring in real life, with propaganda shows like this which brainwash, mostly kids to whom it was directed, into accepting the insanity of women in combat. It shows a future where normal feminine women have been completely eliminated. This evil, androgynous, communistic empire must be destroyed before it destroys humanity!
La Femme Nikita (90s) (USA) [USA network's online description]
"She's young. She's gorgeous. And she's deadly -- sentenced to a chilling existence in a ruthless, clandestine world where beauty and danger collide at every dark turn. Wrongly accused of murdering a cop and sentenced to be put to death, Nikita is instead forced into a new life as an elite operative for a top-secret, technology-laden government organization called Section One. Under the tutelage of the mysterious Michael, Nikita is transformed into a highly trained agent dedicated to fighting global terrorism by any means necessary -- legal or otherwise.
Nikita's life as she once knew it is gone forever. Now she must rely on her fierce instincts and killer looks to achieve the covert and death-defying objectives of a monolithic establishment -- an establishment that is all too willing to eliminate her should her conscience get in the way..."
Her master Michael eventually falls in love the creature he and his organization created, she's not a real woman of course, she, or rather it, is a monstrous perversion that only appears female. He really falls in love with his own power to destroy a woman's soul, turn her into a simulated man and use her as a weapon of evil. Its a transgender fantasy--desire for a man in a female body.
V.I.P. (90s) - A mixture of sex and violence to titillate men's lust for both. Images of bouncing boobs with women fighting and shooting guns incite violent rape fantasies in male viewers.
Xena: Warrior Princess (90s) - Pornographic dominatrix amazon whore, a crazed, violent bitch. Extreme, obscene violence that provokes in men an overwhelming, obsessive lust to rape and slaughter these bitches. It's obvious intent is to incite females to be violent, to hate men, to become socially hostile and to suffer the inevitable consequences of increased violence against women. The makers and participants in this all deserve to die the violent deaths they playact. Stations who show it and its sponsors must be boycotted. Anyone who watches it should be ostracized from civilized society. Parents should not allow their daughters to date boys who watch it. Parents who encourage their kids to watch it should be jailed for child abuse.
Third Watch (90s)
Unsuitable Job for a Woman, An (1998)
NYPD Blue (90s) (ABC)
The Profiler (90s)
Pacific Blue (90s) (USA) - More images of actresses whoring themselves as objects of sexual violence, using the ridiculous excuse of pretending that they are cops on bicycles.
Brooklyn South (1997)
Martial Law (1998)
Black Scorpion (1998) Porno Batwoman whore
Lost World, The (1999)
Stargate SG-1 (2000)
Andromeda (2000)
Dark Angel (2000) - The evil swine who make this show take a teenage actress who isn't even old enough to drink and use her sexuality to titillate their lust for sexual violence by portraying the character as yet another violent bitch, and by it provokes violence against women in society.
Relic Hunter (2000) - Female "Indiana Jones" type archeologist more interested in promoting violence against women than scientific discovery.
Huntress, The (2000) (USA) Bounty hunter bitches. How much would you pay to kill them? To generate interest in the show, maybe they can hold a telethon to raise bounty money to put out a contract on them?
First Wave (2001) (Sci-fi) Former porn star Tracy Lords takes a demeaning step down from her former career to prostitute herself in violent exploitation.
Queen of Swords (2001) - Disgraceful orgy of sexual violence designed to incite in men an overwhelming desire to kill and rape women. This obscene, evil hell is filled with sword fights between men and women with a sluty bitch provoking violent urges in men. Staging a man swordfighting against a woman is an unmistakable psychological suggestion of the desire to violently penetrate her -- to rape her. Anyone who has this show on around children should have their throats slit.
Witchblade (2001) (TNT) - Glorifying evil. Another violent bitch, who deserves to have her ovaries ripped out and shoved down her throat, provokes violence against women.
Alias (2001) (ABC) - College girl sells her soul to the CIA. The actress in the violent porno filth prostitutes herself to the androgynous, fascist propagandists as a violent bitch to provoke violence against females, and in particular to dishonor American women. In one of the obscene promos they showed the violent whore in sexy clothes posing in a lurid manner alternating between her committing violence, with the song American Woman playing. Any network that promotes a disgraceful slutty piece of violent trash like this as an example of an "American Woman" must be boycotted and condemned by all Americans, as an insult and a disgrace to American women.
Caitlin's Way (2001) (Nickelodeon) - "Caitlin Seeger is a troubled teenager. She was orphaned at age 8 and has been shuffled from one foster home to another ever since. She was forced to grow up fast and to learn how to survive on the streets of Philadelphia. After running afoul of the law one time too many, she is given the choice between jail and going to live with relatives on a ranch in Montana. Upon arriving in Montana, the street hardened young girl experiences the ultimate culture shock." (IMDb)
One episode showed a feminazi child abuser training a bunch of girls in martial arts fighting. Caitlin and another girl acted like they were street gang punks, taking trash while sparing, they then got into a brawl that wasn't part of the organized violence. The act of using underage teen girls in actual combative fighting is child abuse, the makers of this anti-female poison, including the executives at Nickelodeon and Disney, should all be arrested and prosecuted, for abusing these girls, in any country in the world that cares about protecting children. Viacom produced this garbage aided though a Canadian tax credit program to support child abusing anti-social violent propaganda.
Taina (2001) (Nickelodeon) - Showed two girls boxing, with one girl getting knocked down, after the fight they showed her with a black eye. I want to see the severed heads of the producers of this child abusing hell.
Mutant X (2001)
Prince Valiant (2002) Perversion of the tales of King Arthur. Take a beautiful young girl and get her to playact being a knight in armor who fights in combat with barbaric men. The makers of this show deserve to be skinned alive and have their bowls ripped out while being drawn and quartered. Now that is the kind of entertainment I would like to see. <<

I completely agree with the examples and their descriptions, but not quite the conclusion- -

This entertainment is misanthropic, not misogynist !
Though I suppose it is a bit subjective here .

Yes, the women of Pensacola: Wings of Gold, Pacific Blue,
Zena: Warrior Bitchess - - are indeed unfemminine and very masculine .
Many Femminazis and Gyno-Stalinists love these shows(especially XENA) . .


399 posted on 07/31/2006 9:51:25 PM PDT by marc costanzo ("The Way to Destroy a People, You Destroy Their Past" - - Solzhenitzen)
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To: All

The above excerpt is from World News Net Daily(WND) .
Originally posted at the said site in the year 2000 . .


400 posted on 07/31/2006 9:54:12 PM PDT by marc costanzo ("The Way to Destroy a People, You Destroy Their Past" - - Solzhenitzen)
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