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Detroit: Smoking ban causing nearly 300 to be laid off at Casino Windsor
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | July 20, 2006

Posted on 07/22/2006 3:57:14 PM PDT by SheLion

Nearly 300 union workers will be laid off by Casino Windsor due to declining revenues caused by Ontario's new smoking ban, casino officials said Wednesday.

The casino, which has nearly 4,000 employees, will lose 297 union workers over the next two weeks and immediately terminate 32 salaried employees, officials said, who also cited an unfavorable exchange rate and high gas prices for the decrease.

The law, which went into effect May 31, bans smoking in all public facilities, including bingo halls, bars, restaurants, sporting venues, stores, office buildings and Casino Windsor.

"This is a day that no one takes lightly. Layoffs or terminations are always a last resort," said Holly Ward, the casino's manager of corporate communications, told The Detroit News. "It's safe to say the business is softening right now. If revenue is declining, we can only wait for so long to react."

Casino officials declined to say how much business had dropped.

Analysts predicted a smoking ban at Casino Windsor would cause the casino to lose business to Detroit's casinos, which allow smoking.

About 80 percent of Casino Windsor customers come from nearby metropolitan Detroit and elsewhere in the United States.

Teresa Roncon, a spokeswoman for the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp. in Toronto, which owns Casino Windsor, said the low exchange rate has made Windsor less favorable to gamblers.

Under the current exchange rate, Americans receive $1.13 Canadian for every $1 American. In the past, the exchange has been as high as $1.68 Canadian, luring many Americans across the border.


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1 posted on 07/22/2006 3:57:19 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; lockjaw02; Mears; CSM; ...
SMOKING BANS ARE CHOKING OUR ECONOMY!!!
2 posted on 07/22/2006 3:58:57 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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They obviously don't have the muscle casinos in NJ have. Our casinos are exempt from the ban. Well, actually--and this is even funnier--smoking is only allowed on the floor where the gambling takes place, not in the shops or outer areas. I bet the casinos put that detail in themselves! Detroit needs some Johnny Goombas to fix this little problem. Call someone to take care of it.


3 posted on 07/22/2006 4:00:33 PM PDT by Huck (George Allen--the GOP version of Al Gore.)
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To: SheLion

I'll bet the libs are blaming the unemployment on Bush .


4 posted on 07/22/2006 4:00:41 PM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. stands for - Islams Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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To: All
Attention all business owners suffering from a smoking ban.
Please fill out this form and submit it for a new web page
Ban Loss

5 posted on 07/22/2006 4:01:12 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

Cig taxes are choking our economy. In NJ, they just went up again. Getting near $7/pack. Only $4 in PA, but some ppl are still too stupid/lazy to drive to PA and stock up on cigs. Anyway, the money goes to the gubmint and squeezes mostly low income stupid ppl.


6 posted on 07/22/2006 4:02:13 PM PDT by Huck (George Allen--the GOP version of Al Gore.)
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To: Huck
They obviously don't have the muscle casinos in NJ have. Our casinos are exempt from the ban. Well, actually--and this is even funnier--smoking is only allowed on the floor where the gambling takes place, not in the shops or outer areas. I bet the casinos put that detail in themselves! Detroit needs some Johnny Goombas to fix this little problem. Call someone to take care of it.

However, if the revenue isn't there, they can't afford to pay everyone.  I'm sure it's will be the same in New Jersey.

Who is going to pay the employees?  The state?

7 posted on 07/22/2006 4:03:07 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

Well that settles it. I'll never go to a Casino in Windsor. In fact, I'll not go to Windsor. Sure wish we could get Comrade Granholm to go back.


8 posted on 07/22/2006 4:05:29 PM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: Huck
Cig taxes are choking our economy. In NJ, they just went up again. Getting near $7/pack. Only $4 in PA, but some ppl are still too stupid/lazy to drive to PA and stock up on cigs. Anyway, the money goes to the gubmint and squeezes mostly low income stupid ppl.

You're lucky!  Maine just raised the cigarette taxes to $2 dollars a pack and $10 dollars a carton!  The cheapest cigarettes we can buy in Maine is Doral, and they run around $45 dollars a carton!!  ack!

Premiums run around $60 a carton is not higher.

See why I roll my own???  heh!

9 posted on 07/22/2006 4:06:05 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

One of the reasons our local Indian Casinos are very popular is that smokers can indulge (most casinos have or are designating smallish parts as non-smoking, however, to keep the peace pipe going). Here in the desert (Check my page for current temp!) being able to smoke indoors in a public place is quite popular.


10 posted on 07/22/2006 4:06:27 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: SheLion

Like I said, in NJ, you can smoke in casinos on the gambling floor. So they don't have any problems. The part I like is you can actually smoke cigars, which is a rare privelage. All the cig smokers whine and moan about not being allowed to smoke in restaurants and bars. I say boo-hoo. Try being a cigar smoker. It's almost never ok to smoke cigars, even where cigarettes are permitted.


11 posted on 07/22/2006 4:06:48 PM PDT by Huck (George Allen--the GOP version of Al Gore.)
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To: SheLion
Teresa Roncon, a spokeswoman for the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp. in Toronto, which owns Casino Windsor, said the low exchange rate has made Windsor less favorable to gamblers.

Under the current exchange rate, Americans receive $1.13 Canadian for every $1 American. In the past, the exchange has been as high as $1.68 Canadian, luring many Americans across the border.

That's too bad about the exchange rate.

12 posted on 07/22/2006 4:07:14 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: ASA Vet
Well that settles it. I'll never go to a Casino in Windsor. In fact, I'll not go to Windsor. Sure wish we could get Comrade Granholm to go back.

It's pathetic!  And do you think the anti's care about people losing their jobs?  Not in a million years!

13 posted on 07/22/2006 4:07:38 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion
Casino Windsor, said the low exchange rate has made Windsor less favorable to gamblers

Bet a Loony win a Loony what does the exchange rate have to do with it?

14 posted on 07/22/2006 4:09:00 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (999-TNS)
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To: Huck
Like I said, in NJ, you can smoke in casinos on the gambling floor. So they don't have any problems. The part I like is you can actually smoke cigars, which is a rare privelage. All the cig smokers whine and moan about not being allowed to smoke in restaurants and bars. I say boo-hoo. Try being a cigar smoker. It's almost never ok to smoke cigars, even where cigarettes are permitted.

OIC.  Well, better that then nothing, that's for sure!

15 posted on 07/22/2006 4:09:18 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion
I don't know what crap brands like Doral go for, but the leading brands are all around $6.65 or thereabouts. Sounds like the prices are pretty similar to yours for top brands.

When I started smoking cigs full time they were 1.10 a pack. When I quit cigs they were 2.15 a pack. Glad I got out when I did. I had a nice career as a smoker, but I was glad to hang it up.

16 posted on 07/22/2006 4:09:23 PM PDT by Huck (George Allen--the GOP version of Al Gore.)
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To: SheLion
The Mall of America in Mn. Shutdown all the bars and restaurants on the 4th floor due to a ban. Only Hooters remains.
17 posted on 07/22/2006 4:10:54 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: SheLion

Honestly...I'm embarrassed for ya'...


18 posted on 07/22/2006 4:11:22 PM PDT by dakine
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To: Mike Darancette; Moonman62
Bet a Loony win a Loony what does the exchange rate have to do with it?

I didn't comment on the exchange rate.  Ask Moonman62.  He seems to be concerned about it.

19 posted on 07/22/2006 4:11:38 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion
See why I roll my own??? heh!

I'm too clumsy and lazy...I'll drive over to Palm Springs (if they're not having one of their gay pride parades that week) and pay $14.00 - period, no sales tax - per carton for decent Canadian manufactured ciggies...(they do internet/mail order and claim to be immune from that taxation business going on)

They're in a shopping center on Tribal land, as is much of the entire city of Palm Springs.

Googleize 'em if you like: Black Hawk Tobacco

20 posted on 07/22/2006 4:12:06 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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