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House OKs Bill Guarding Pledge From Courts (Pledge of Allegiance)
My Way News (AP) ^ | 07-19-2006 | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 07/20/2006 11:32:16 AM PDT by sergey1973

WASHINGTON (AP) - The House, citing the nation's religious origins, voted Wednesday to protect the Pledge of Allegiance from federal judges who might try to stop schoolchildren and others from reciting it because of the phrase "under God."

The legislation, a priority of social conservatives, passed 260-167. It now goes to the Senate where its future is uncertain.

"We should not and cannot rewrite history to ignore our spiritual heritage," said Rep. Zach Wamp, R-Tenn. "It surrounds us. It cries out for our country to honor God."

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: constitution; courts; judiciary; pledgeofallegiance; scotus; supremecourt; us; usconstitution; uscourts; ussupremecourt
Out of million of reasons to protect Judaico Christian symbols in the US from the Court meddling, I can give you just one. It's Jihadists.

Jihadists, as bloodthirsty as they are, have a clear faith in their mission and vision of who they are and what they want to accomplish. It's impossible to withstand against them in a long term without religious, moral and spiritual framework.

1 posted on 07/20/2006 11:32:19 AM PDT by sergey1973
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Um....I don't think this is legal...


2 posted on 07/20/2006 11:56:35 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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No, it's legal. Congress can limit jurisdictions of the US Courts. I learned about it relatively recently, but it's legal under the US Constitution, Article III, Section 2

Section 2. The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects.

In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.

3 posted on 07/20/2006 12:30:48 PM PDT by sergey1973
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"In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."

Article III, Section 2, United States Constitution.


4 posted on 07/20/2006 12:36:16 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: sergey1973

"It now goes to the Senate where its future is uncertain."
I'm getting very tired of reading this!


5 posted on 07/20/2006 1:21:30 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: ops33

That is true, but the Supreme Court's Original Jurisdiction cannot be regulated by Congress(i.e cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party cannot be regulated by Congress without a constitutional amendment). So if any Ambassador, public minister, consul, or state is a party to a case which involves the pledge of allegiance the Supreme Court will still have jurisdiction.


6 posted on 07/20/2006 2:35:47 PM PDT by old republic
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To: old republic

How likely is that to happen? I don't think Congress had in mind a requirement that the Ambassador from some country would sue in federal court over having to say the phrase "under God" while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.


7 posted on 07/20/2006 2:46:00 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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How likely is it that someone like Mike Newdow will sue a state such as california for allowing the pledge to be done in schools? You might think that cases affecting ambassadors are rare, but cases in which states are a party are fairly common.


8 posted on 07/20/2006 2:51:17 PM PDT by old republic
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Supporters argued that the "under God" phrase, added to the pledge in 1954, was to the nation's heritage and traditions and must be shielded from unelected judges. "This is an issue that clearly resonates to what we are about as a country," said House Republican Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo.

The 1954 act of Congress that put "under God" in the Pledge is not essential to the nation's heritage and traditions. Our most precious heritage is a system of republican government wherein the power of the national government is limited to those powers expressly enumerated or implied in the U. S. Constitution. One will search that document in vain for anything that suggests that the U. s. Government has any jurisdiction, authority or power over the religion(s) of we the people.

Our duty to recognize and behave ourselves as if we are under the authority of God is a duty which we owe to our Creator and to him alone, not to the U. S. Government or to "society at large" or to our "fellow man." We are to be "under God" or "not under God" according to what God says on the matter.

The U. S. Government, Society at Large and our fellow men have no authority whatsoever over our right of conscience. A man only has a duty to be "under God", if his God imposes such an obligation on him.

God has absolute and exclusive jurisdiction, authority and power over religion or the duty which we owe him. That includes the authority to issue a man hints, suggestions, advice or recommendations regarding the things that are God's.

The suggestion of the U. S. Congress that we are "under God" is a trespass by the civil government upon God's authority to issue religious suggestions. It is a sinful violation of God's sacred law of Separation of Church and State that was established when the Savior declared, his "kingdom is not of this word" and “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s.”

"Under God" should be removed from the Pledge; and legislation should be enacted to punish any government officer who trespasses or attempts to trespass upon God's prerogatives.
9 posted on 09/03/2006 12:47:43 PM PDT by MuddyWaters2006
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BARTENDER!

Give me some of whatever he's havin'!


10 posted on 01/24/2007 7:08:34 PM PST by HKMk23 (PRO-LIFE: Because a Person's a Person, no matter how small.)
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To: HKMk23

D'OH! NEVERMIND. I didn't trealize he'd ordered a fresh can of ZOT to go with it.


11 posted on 01/24/2007 7:13:45 PM PST by HKMk23 (PRO-LIFE: Because a Person's a Person, no matter how small.)
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