House Protects God in Pledge of Allegiance

Fox News ^ | 6/19/06

[bnelson44]

WASHINGTON — The House, citing the nation's religious origins, voted Wednesday to protect the Pledge of Allegiance from federal judges who might try to stop schoolchildren and others from reciting it because of the phrase "under God."

The legislation, a priority of social conservatives, passed 260-167. It now goes to the Senate where its future is uncertain.

"We should not and cannot rewrite history to ignore our spiritual heritage," said Rep. Zach Wamp, R-Tenn. "It surrounds us. It cries out for our country to honor God."

[burzum]

What is your point quoting what I already quoted? I already noted that I doubt that phrase gives Congress the authority to deny jurisdiction. It only gives them the ability to say which court sees it first and how a case travels through different stages of appellate jurisdiction.

Think for a moment what would be the case if Congress had the ability to deny jurisdiction as it pleased. There would no longer be searches of Congressional offices, like the dis-Honorable Jefferson, because Congress could simply deny jurisdiction. And our pork loving Congress would jump on that in a heartbeat.

[puroresu]

Once a significant minority of the population no longer cares about the Constitution or actual liberties, it becomes difficult to defend against judicial imperialism. We've reached that point. Most people still revere the Constitution, but enough don't to keep any proposal to restore the document from getting a two-thirds vote. This is especially true when the Constitution-haters are masquerading as defenders of "civil liberties". Check out debates on feminist, gay, or other such issues around here and see how many people who call themselves "conservative" have a view of the Constitution that's identical to that of the most radical left-wing judicial activists. They think the Constitution is a "living" document that changes to incorporate the prevailing cocktail-party crowd fashions of the moment. They've essentially conceded the culture to the left and have given up on liberty as an important principle of our society.

[Cobra64]

Interesting that 405% of Democrats do not approve "under God" versus 3.6% of Republicans feeling the same way.

[GretchenM]

The House votes to keep God
but to throw out
embryos
that can become American citizens.

Bush holds Trey Jones (a formerly frozen embryo) adopted baby, from Cypress, Texas

[Jacquerie]

Who would have thought 200 years ago that we'd even be arguing this? Insane.

No kidding. Since the Warren court, judges have wrapped politically based decisions in various penumbras and emanations of made up and lately, international or even Nigerian law. Then they get angry when we criticize them as we would any other pol.

[Suzy Quzy]

160 people voted AGAINST GOD?????

[puroresu]

Yep! A century from now, a Chinese historian will write a book on the death of the West, and in the chapter on America we'll read about how a leftist Supreme Court circa 2060 eradicated the final surviving portion of the Bill of Rights, on the grounds that the BOR defenders failed to provide a "compelling interest" for retaining it.

[Adiemus]

If I am correct, Red Skelton spoke those words on his TV show. I heard them at a young age...

[Adiemus]

Oops! I just saw you put that at the top of your message.
ugh.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

We need God's protection, but He certainly doesn't need that of the U.S. Congress.

Yes he does from From Congress from the House From the Majority and the Minority Just Because God Blesses us and the United States sinners and saints alike does not mean that we should not protect him from anyone who would abuse our right to believe ... Does he need our Protection Most Certainly and he is Very deserving of it as well !

[Jacquerie]

I already noted that I doubt that phrase gives Congress the authority to deny jurisdiction.

Sorry, the Constitution gives Congress that authority. It is rarely used as our ccritters would rather the unelected courts make difficult decisions.

[newzjunkey]

200 years ago there was no pledge. 53 years ago there was no "under God" phrase in the pledge.

You probably couldn't have imagined such things would be argued so far in the future from 200 years ago.

How the pledge used to be performed...

[do the dhue]

Nancy Peloser and other Commie pimps from the left want to remove God from our public view for a reason.

When God has been removed, who will remember that we have inalienable rights and/or God given rights? The Commie pimps will be able to remove inalaienable rights a lot easier with God out of the picture.

As for me, they will have to take my rights from my cold dead hands.

[bruinbirdman]

"with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."

You are correct. The Constitution created The Supreme Court. All other federal courts were created by Congress. What Congress hath created, it can uncreate. Congress legislates. It can tell lesser courts what is law. Congress can delete federal courts if it wants.

yitbos

[do the dhue]

You know, I would say this:
Congress has the right to protect the free exercise of Religion.

I fall back on the Constitution:

1st Amendment:
Congress shall pass no law to establish a religion, or limit the free exercise thereof

Congress can not pass a law that tells you and me which church or religion to believe in; and Congress can not limit the free exercise of Religion (unless the religion tells you to harm another). Meaning, if Congress said you can not say God then they would be passing a law that limits the free exercise of religion. Saying God or putting religious symbols on Public property does not establish a religion. It takes a law from Congress to do that. But Congress should never pass a law that stops people from expressing themselves. That to me would seem unconstitutional.

[jdm]

"200 years ago there was no pledge. 53 years ago there was no "under God" phrase in the pledge."

I'm a visionary then; hey, what can I say? :O)

[fanfan]

Gee Yank,

Things looked like they were going down hill in the States over the last few months with the border problem and how the NY Slimes seemed to be getting away with everything, but it sure seems like more good news for you lately, even today you folks have accomplished a number of good things.

You are great neighbors.

Congratulations!

Love, Canada.

[Quick1]

Meaning, if Congress said you can not say God then they would be passing a law that limits the free exercise of religion.

How about a law that mandates all schoolchildren recite this socialist loyalty oath that mentions God?

[Coop]

Here's a link to the actual vote,how each member voted.

I ain't smart enuff to do them link things. So tell me... how did Jack Murtha vote??!!? [smiling sweetly]