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States Ban Hunting of Live Animals over the Internet
LiveScience ^ | 07/08/06

Posted on 07/08/2006 12:24:20 PM PDT by nypokerface

Louisiana has joined 21 other states in banning Internet hunting, the practice of using a mouse click to kill animals on a distant game farm.

The cyber-shooting idea was the brainchild of Texan John Lockwood, who started the web site Live-Shot.com.

The idea was this: Hunters sign up on the web site and pay some $1,500 or more. They schedule a session, then log on at their appointed time to watch a feeding station on the computer screen. The animal that was ordered—from wild hogs to antelope—is in the area, and when it approaches the food, the hunter moves on-screen crosshairs into place. A click of the mouse fires a rifle to kill the animal.

The armchair hunter's trophy animal would then be mounted and shipped for display.

Texas outlawed the practice last year.

Humane Society executive vice president Michael Markarian was pleased with the decision in Louisiana.

"Responsible hunters know there's no sport in shooting an animal remotely while lying in bed and wearing camouflage pajamas," Markarian said in a statement today.

Meanwhile, the game farm's web site now says hunters must come to the farm, where they "can now offer a unique hunting opportunity for disabled and handicapped hunters, as well as others, who may need the assistance of our system while hunting."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; cyberhunting; hunting; internet; internethunting; libertarians; liveshot
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To: nypokerface
It's not hunting. It's called slaughtering livestock.

Personally, I have no problem with slaughtering livestock for consumption. I have been raising and slaughtering livestock my entire life. But it ain't hunting.

Anyone who thinks this is hunting needs to save his money and stick to video games.

41 posted on 07/08/2006 3:16:07 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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To: nypokerface
Jesus! I've got nothing against hunting, although I do not participate myself. But this is sick. Awful little thrill for your $1500 bucks, in my opinion, unless you just like to watch things die.

In this case you should be in jail, just on general principles. Besides, wouldn't it be cheaper just to take a guided tour of a slaughter house?
42 posted on 07/08/2006 3:41:28 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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To: Seruzawa
Hell, I've hit deer with my car, and missed scores of them by frantic braking. Deer populations should be controlled. It's not the animals being hunted that I am particularly worried about. After all, deer were created to be eaten. I worry about the animals doing the hunting, and that is what they are.

Do the population control some other way.
43 posted on 07/08/2006 3:45:17 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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To: AlaninSA
Dropping bait and then shooting an animal as it feeds is about the least manly thing one could do. Real hunters don't use this method.

Real hunters hunt for food.
Fake hunters think it's a sport.

44 posted on 07/08/2006 3:48:51 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; Annie03; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
45 posted on 07/08/2006 4:03:00 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: ccmay
mE: You know, they ought to replace the animals with humans and use remote controlled paint ball guns

ccm: Wasn't there a stink a few years ago about some paintball place where you could "hunt" girls in bikinis? Anybody else remember that?


Yep, I remember - upset people because it was women - with my plan you'd have a choice of shooting men or women with your remote controlled paintball gun. No animal rights problems and no gender issues.
46 posted on 07/08/2006 4:22:48 PM PDT by gondramB (And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are going out.)
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To: EveningStar

47 posted on 07/08/2006 5:07:53 PM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: sully777

:)


48 posted on 07/08/2006 5:58:22 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: nypokerface
when it approaches the food, the hunter moves on-screen crosshairs into place. A click of the mouse fires a rifle to kill the animal.

The future of war, oh wait....

.....this is what predators do now.

49 posted on 07/08/2006 6:22:54 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: AlaninSA
just remember when you go kick those fellas in the but and tell them to hunt deer like a man that your probably dealing with some very hard working folks that will only be able to hunt for a week or less during the season. These animals are not going extinct anytime soon. The modern day hunter is under so many time constraints with work and family that he hardly gets to hunt at all. I believe that everyone deserves to get them a deer during the season. I put out a little corn each season to draw them into the area I plan to hunt.
50 posted on 07/08/2006 6:26:38 PM PDT by Vote 4 Nixon (EAT...FISH...SLEEP...REDUX)
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To: nypokerface
 

Why not?

51 posted on 07/08/2006 7:15:35 PM PDT by mhking ("I make my livin' on the evening news...")
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To: AlaninSA
Bait/feeder hunting is only done by the most pathetic excuses for men around.

It depends. There many places where bait hunting is the only practical method. Where the terrain is thick, dry mesquite, you can't see ten feet and the critters can hear you coming a quarter mile away, no matter how "manly" you are you aren't going to go in and sneak up on one. You have to draw them out of the brush to shoot them. Also there are some people who simply aren't physically able to hike for miles. I'm happy to see them able to still participate in the sport withing their abilities.

IMNHO most arguments against a particular hunting method simply serve to divide hunters and help the anti-hunting types further their agenda. Be it hunting mountain lions or bears, trapping, using dogs, baiting, high fences, or whatever, if they can isolate a part of the hunting community they can ban it piecemeal. The old divide and conquer.

52 posted on 07/08/2006 7:38:55 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Vote 4 Nixon

That's about the weakest excuse I've heard.

I'm "time constrained," so I use a feeder.

Feeders are for democrats, communists and losers.


53 posted on 07/08/2006 8:30:31 PM PDT by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: AlaninSA

When I go for game fish, I chum.

Is chumming for democrats, communists and losers?


54 posted on 07/08/2006 8:53:41 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Hodar; doug from upland

How is this situation any different than buying steak at a store?

Essentially all the folks on this site are paying for is the right to see the meat or trophy they order killed. Sure, it may seem twisted to you, but to the folks who want hunting banned, YOU seem twisted.

You're falling right into the holier-than-thou trap the left wants you to. If they can ban this type of hunting, then they can ban ANY type of hunting.


55 posted on 07/08/2006 9:23:02 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I had a 75 head herd listing on my site late summer 2005.

Some bought a head and just wanted the meat shipped.

Some bought heads and had the meat donated to a few soup kitchens that fed approximately 2,000 hurricane victims.

Some that bought heads and had the meat donated to the soup kitchen requested the caps and pelts.

Some bought heads to start their own herd.

There is no difference between Live-Shot and buying animals for food.

bump to your post.


56 posted on 07/08/2006 9:37:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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ping


57 posted on 07/08/2006 9:40:47 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I don't buy steak at a store. Actually you fell into the trap about not knowing anything about me and putting your foot in your mouth. Does it taste kind of like chicken?


58 posted on 07/08/2006 10:09:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
"I don't buy steak at a store. Actually you fell into the trap about not knowing anything about me and putting your foot in your mouth. Does it taste kind of like chicken?"

Hey, horse's ass, I asked:

"How is this situation any different than buying steak at a store?"

Who said YOU buy steak at a store? If I fell into any trap, it was in assuming you can read.

59 posted on 07/08/2006 11:16:12 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: LibertarianInExile
Interesting. For some background, I made a declarative statement that I don't buy steak at a store to at least give a hint that I don't eat meat. I did not say that you said I buy steak at a store. If I intended to do that, I would have said that you are wrong about assuming I buy steak at a store.

In fairness, I will retract the statement that you don't know anything about me. That may or may not be true and will certainly depend on whether you have read my comments on this site or listened to me on the radio.

"...but to the folks who want hunting banned, YOU seem twisted."
Had you known a little more about me, you would have realized that the statement that I seem twisted to them is simply illogical. You indeed fell into the trap of apparently not knowing anything about me on this issue. I haven't eaten meat since 1991. I seriously doubt that those who want hunting banned would believe I am twisted. They might not be pleased that I wouldn't join a protest to ban hunting, but they would clearly not think I was twisted. That would be foolish. I have neither condemned those who hunt for food or sport or those who eat meat. My choice simply works for me.

The horse's ass ad hominem was a nice touch. It is an excellent debating technique, somewhat like being the first to accuse the other of being a Nazi. That's usually a winner.

I guess I will begin my reading lessons on Monday. I fell into the trap of assuming a Liberatarian with a capital "L" possesses either logic or class. I apologize for that assumption.

60 posted on 07/09/2006 12:14:04 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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