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The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
Vertical Thought Magazine ^ | June 2006 | Mario Seiglie

Posted on 07/04/2006 8:42:50 AM PDT by DouglasKC

The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution

This unusual fish uses a specialized system to blast insects out of the air. How could this evolve slowly over time when there is no survival advantage without the whole system working perfectly?

by Mario Seiglie

icon arrowIn Asia, Africa and Australia lives a remarkable creature, the archerfish, that shoots down its prey from the air above it with a burst of water. It uses its tongue and the top of its mouth to form a groove similar to a gun barrel. Then, by compressing its gills, it squirts water up to six feet with deadly accuracy—in spite of the distortion caused by seeing the target from below the surface of water.

photoWhat's so amazing about the archerfish's ability to shoot straight? When light passes between air and water, it is refracted, which causes a distortion. If an archerfish simply aimed at the object where it appeared to be from below the water, it could never hit its target! Yet scientists have found that archerfish are able to strike their target when sighting upwards at angles of 40 degrees!

More amazingly, marine researchers have discovered that these fish can hit their prey whether the amount of refraction is large or small. They have also found that the fishes' binocular vision allows them to see clearly at considerable distances above them, an ability other fish do not have.

An experiment

Here is an experiment. In a clear glass of water, hold a pencil at an angle halfway under the water and look at it from different positions. Notice how the pencil appears different below and above the water. That is the refraction of the light changing from the water to the air.

So how can the archerfish compensate for this distortion and know how to shoot at the right place?

Evolutionists don't know

Evolutionists still don't know how the archerfish got its amazing abilities. They can only wonder! Viewed through the distortion of evolution, they cannot explain how the archerfish gradually learned to not aim where its eyes see but to aim instead at a different spot where the target actually is.

Without its binocular vision, it could not see the object with such precision, and without the special shape of the upper mouth and a specialized tongue, it could not make the groove it needs to shoot the concentrated jet of water. Many factors have to appear together—and be perfectly formed—for this shooting mechanism to work. This, of course, goes totally against Charles Darwin's evolutionary theory, which is based on a gradual, step-by-step process.

Darwin wrote in The Origin of Species, "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down" (1859, p. 171).

The archerfish offers precisely such an example, since several complex systems must all appear at the same time, perfectly and not gradually formed—binocular vision, a specialized mouth and tongue, specialized gills to compress and expel water and an aiming system based in the brain and not in the eyes. If any of these parts is missing, the mechanism will not hit the target and no survival advantage is created.

Shooting down Darwin's theory

When you get down to the facts, the archerfish with one squirt of its gills shoots down Charles Darwin's entire theory of evolution—and that by Darwin's own admission!

So evolution doesn't have the answer to this mystery. But the Bible does. Genesis 1:20-21 says that God created all the creatures that live in the water. He created a great variety of perfectly formed fish, including the archerfish with all its special features, such as binocular vision, other specialized organs and a built-in ability to compensate for the distortion of the water. VT



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: anothercrevothread; creation; creationism; crevolist; enoughalready; evolution; fish; id; intelligentdesign; pavlovian
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To: freedumb2003
I think you are right about the simple mindedness. And CRIDers also talk as if they have first dibs on getting through the Pearly Gates. (I have news for them, I'll be in there waiting! ;o)) I liked what you said earlier:

It is humbling that God created a process (Evolution) that ended up with such a beautifully complex thing such as a human being. It is sad that CRIDers put handcuffs on the ability of The Almighty.

141 posted on 07/04/2006 10:32:14 AM PDT by phantomworker (Live life so completely, when death comes like a thief in the night, there is nothing left to steal.)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
So God didn't create Satan?

Of course he did. But he created him with free will, just as he created us with free will.

142 posted on 07/04/2006 10:32:41 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Of course he did. But he created him with free will, just as he created us with free will.

And free will doesn't have the capacity to kill?

143 posted on 07/04/2006 10:34:26 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: freedumb2003
So, the lion that goes after a gazelle is just playing? Carnivores had no need for meat before Satan?

Apparently not. But don't worry, you'll most likely get to witness it in the future when the restoration of all things occurs:

Isa 65:24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
Isa 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

144 posted on 07/04/2006 10:35:04 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Iscool
For one, there are close to 50 predictions in the Bible that for-tell the events of Jesus' life on earth that have come to pass...

Please enumerate these predictions, and also explain how these predictions show that the Genesis creation account is accurate.
145 posted on 07/04/2006 10:35:05 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: freedumb2003

Douglas is on a roll today, don't try to throw him off track with any logic or common sense. I love when he posts, its like watching a slow motion train wreck.


146 posted on 07/04/2006 10:35:46 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: wbmstr24
fine, using that method, show me those three pillars and their 'establishing confidense in' evolutionism, i.e. fish to amphibians, dinosaurs to birds, etc....

I am not sure what you mean. What is "evolutionism"?
147 posted on 07/04/2006 10:36:43 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: phantomworker

Thanks for seeing my point. I wish I could be a certain as you about me being at the Pearly Gates to greet them, but at least I will know that Hubris isn't one of the reasons I didn't make the grade.

And I feverently hope it will be a long, long time before you "greet" anyone at those gates ;)


148 posted on 07/04/2006 10:37:03 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: Brilliant
I'm a little puzzled about why this disproves evolution.

Puzzlement disproves evolution.

149 posted on 07/04/2006 10:38:09 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: DouglasKC

That's later.

Where is the reference to how there was no killing before Satan?


150 posted on 07/04/2006 10:38:21 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: DouglasKC

Sometimes it seems like you understand the ideas of evolution and other times I wonder if you are falling back into some preconceived notion?


151 posted on 07/04/2006 10:38:47 AM PDT by phantomworker (Live life so completely, when death comes like a thief in the night, there is nothing left to steal.)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
And free will doesn't have the capacity to kill?

Free will does have the capacity to kill.

152 posted on 07/04/2006 10:39:09 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: FixitGuy

LOL...good come back!


153 posted on 07/04/2006 10:40:27 AM PDT by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: FixitGuy

LOL...good come back!


154 posted on 07/04/2006 10:40:36 AM PDT by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser; freedumb2003
Douglas is on a roll today, don't try to throw him off track with any logic or common sense. I love when he posts, its like watching a slow motion train wreck.

I'm here for ya!

155 posted on 07/04/2006 10:41:09 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Thatcherite

Have you -ever- gotten an answer to that qudstion?


156 posted on 07/04/2006 10:41:22 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Central Scrutiniser; DouglasKC
Douglas is on a roll today

But he is very respectful and thoughtful (and honest in his perspective). I appreciate his demeanor on this thread as opposed to the usual CRIDer crew which merely condemns "us Darwinists" as atheists who are channeling the Stalin agenda.

Mind you I am still trying to figure the posts out, but it is kind of a nice break.

157 posted on 07/04/2006 10:42:55 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: From many - one.
Have you -ever- gotten an answer to that qudstion?

Of course not. I doubt that most of the people I've ever asked it even understand the question. I guess I've asked it 20 times on FR. Response came there none.

158 posted on 07/04/2006 10:43:16 AM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm PatHenry I'm the real PatHenry all the other PatHenrys are just imitators)
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To: DouglasKC

I'm waiting for that reference about no killing befire Satan...


159 posted on 07/04/2006 10:43:31 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Obviously nothing ate in the Garden. It wasn't the apple, it was the eating.

Intestines were just for decoration and skin cells just sat there and never died and sloughed off.


160 posted on 07/04/2006 10:44:39 AM PDT by From many - one.
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