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The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
Vertical Thought Magazine ^ | June 2006 | Mario Seiglie

Posted on 07/04/2006 8:42:50 AM PDT by DouglasKC

The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution

This unusual fish uses a specialized system to blast insects out of the air. How could this evolve slowly over time when there is no survival advantage without the whole system working perfectly?

by Mario Seiglie

icon arrowIn Asia, Africa and Australia lives a remarkable creature, the archerfish, that shoots down its prey from the air above it with a burst of water. It uses its tongue and the top of its mouth to form a groove similar to a gun barrel. Then, by compressing its gills, it squirts water up to six feet with deadly accuracy—in spite of the distortion caused by seeing the target from below the surface of water.

photoWhat's so amazing about the archerfish's ability to shoot straight? When light passes between air and water, it is refracted, which causes a distortion. If an archerfish simply aimed at the object where it appeared to be from below the water, it could never hit its target! Yet scientists have found that archerfish are able to strike their target when sighting upwards at angles of 40 degrees!

More amazingly, marine researchers have discovered that these fish can hit their prey whether the amount of refraction is large or small. They have also found that the fishes' binocular vision allows them to see clearly at considerable distances above them, an ability other fish do not have.

An experiment

Here is an experiment. In a clear glass of water, hold a pencil at an angle halfway under the water and look at it from different positions. Notice how the pencil appears different below and above the water. That is the refraction of the light changing from the water to the air.

So how can the archerfish compensate for this distortion and know how to shoot at the right place?

Evolutionists don't know

Evolutionists still don't know how the archerfish got its amazing abilities. They can only wonder! Viewed through the distortion of evolution, they cannot explain how the archerfish gradually learned to not aim where its eyes see but to aim instead at a different spot where the target actually is.

Without its binocular vision, it could not see the object with such precision, and without the special shape of the upper mouth and a specialized tongue, it could not make the groove it needs to shoot the concentrated jet of water. Many factors have to appear together—and be perfectly formed—for this shooting mechanism to work. This, of course, goes totally against Charles Darwin's evolutionary theory, which is based on a gradual, step-by-step process.

Darwin wrote in The Origin of Species, "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down" (1859, p. 171).

The archerfish offers precisely such an example, since several complex systems must all appear at the same time, perfectly and not gradually formed—binocular vision, a specialized mouth and tongue, specialized gills to compress and expel water and an aiming system based in the brain and not in the eyes. If any of these parts is missing, the mechanism will not hit the target and no survival advantage is created.

Shooting down Darwin's theory

When you get down to the facts, the archerfish with one squirt of its gills shoots down Charles Darwin's entire theory of evolution—and that by Darwin's own admission!

So evolution doesn't have the answer to this mystery. But the Bible does. Genesis 1:20-21 says that God created all the creatures that live in the water. He created a great variety of perfectly formed fish, including the archerfish with all its special features, such as binocular vision, other specialized organs and a built-in ability to compensate for the distortion of the water. VT



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: anothercrevothread; creation; creationism; crevolist; enoughalready; evolution; fish; id; intelligentdesign; pavlovian
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To: agere_contra
A 72-ton carrier doesn't sound all that amazing :0)

Sure it does. It's amazing you could land any kind of airplane on one so small.

121 posted on 07/04/2006 10:17:48 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Republican Party Reptile
well, that's that, so there .... And since that can pretty much be applied as a reply for any subject, why do we bother to study anything at all? .. Oh, wait, that's actually your point isn't it? There is no point to study or explain anything at all, God designed and built it that way and that's the answer to everything? I knew that's what I should have put down as answer in my Quantum Physics and Partial Differential Equation final exams :)

It's actually a little more complex than that. If you want to study quantum physics go for it. It's a great science and I'm sure we create wonderful things with the knowledge we gain from studying God's creation. However, the problem comes when we start thinking that the creation is the be all and end all.

Rom 1:25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Spooky, ain't it?

The way to become wise is to understand that you don't know anything and not to lean on your own understanding. Instead, trust that God speaks to his servants through scripture and will lead you into all truth.

122 posted on 07/04/2006 10:18:21 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: phantomworker
I can only imagine that the newest ideas in quantum physics like string theory, parallel universes and the theory that there are more than 4 dimensions must make the creationist heads explode.

Check out this link from Scientific American:

COSMOLOGY
Parallel Universes
Not just a staple of science fiction, other universes are a direct implication of cosmological observations
By Max Tegmark
"Is there a copy of you reading this article? A person who is not you but who lives on a planet called Earth, with misty mountains, fertile fields and sprawling cities, in a solar system with eight other planets? The life of this person has been identical to yours in every respect. But perhaps he or she now decides to put down this article without finishing it, while you read on. The idea of such an alter ego seems strange and implausible, but it looks as if we will just have to live with it, because it is supported by astronomical observations. The simplest and most popular cosmological model today predicts that you have a twin in a galaxy about 10 to the 1028 meters from here. This distance is so large that it is beyond astronomical, but that does not make your doppelgänger any less real.".....

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000F1EDD-B48A-1E90-8EA5809EC5880000

124 posted on 07/04/2006 10:19:29 AM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Well, Watson, we seem to have fallen upon evil days.")
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To: Oztrich Boy
He probably designed it before time began. When was this exactly?

Seriously? It wasn't a "when" it was before (for want of a better word) the creation of space/time, before the creation of our physical universe.

125 posted on 07/04/2006 10:20:11 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: freedumb2003
It is humbling that God created a process (Evolution) that ended up with such a beautifully complex thing such as a human being.

Which is, I think, just a subprocess of the larger process, by which complex order emerges from chaos. That, in my opinion, God's ultimate miracle of creation.

126 posted on 07/04/2006 10:20:21 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: DouglasKC
Interesting fish, interesting article.

This article is very similar to an article published in the Plain Truth magazine about 30 years ago. Nice to see it come around again...

127 posted on 07/04/2006 10:20:49 AM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: wbmstr24
no, its called variation, as those variation have certain limits and will not cross past them, thus the finches remain finches, the bacteria remain bacteria, the man and woman, remain men and women, that is called design.

Fascinating. What is the physical mechanism that defines the limits that cannot be crossed?

128 posted on 07/04/2006 10:21:26 AM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm PatHenry I'm the real PatHenry all the other PatHenrys are just imitators)
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To: js1138
And signed His Name to it, just like the flagellum that kills infants and children.

Actually that's an incorrect understanding. God designed nothing that kills. Death and destruction came about because of the rebellion of man and Satan.

129 posted on 07/04/2006 10:22:13 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Seriously? It wasn't a "when" it was before (for want of a better word) the creation of space/time, before the creation of our physical universe

Now that I agree with. It's a question, however, of whether he designed processes (and at what level) or end-products.

130 posted on 07/04/2006 10:22:32 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: DouglasKC

<< Mario Seiglie is a pastor of United Church of God congregations in Garden Grove, California, and Honolulu, Hawaii. >>

Stupid articles like this make it hard to take organized religion seriously.


131 posted on 07/04/2006 10:23:37 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: DouglasKC

So, when a zebra eats and kills grass, that is because he is a Satan infested sinner?

LOL


132 posted on 07/04/2006 10:24:02 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Ben Chad
It is a very idiotic article. But remember, the lead creationist went to college!


133 posted on 07/04/2006 10:26:18 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Thatcherite; wbmstr24
Fascinating. What is the physical mechanism that defines the limits that cannot be crossed?

Self correcting DNA. From Molecular Biology of the Cell

134 posted on 07/04/2006 10:26:42 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Dimensio
What evidence have you that the bible is an accurate source of information?

For one, there are close to 50 predictions in the Bible that for-tell the events of Jesus' life on earth that have come to pass...

Mathematicians say that the odds of that happening are 1 in 10 (with 370 zeros after the ten)...That's far more than close enough for me...And should be for everyone...

135 posted on 07/04/2006 10:27:24 AM PDT by Iscool (I spent MOST of my MONEY on cold beer and hot women...The REST, I just wasted ...)
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To: DouglasKC
God designed nothing that kills. Death and destruction came about because of the rebellion of man and Satan.

So God didn't create Satan?

136 posted on 07/04/2006 10:27:46 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Thumper1960
God created humor, too.

And I thank Him constantly for that.

137 posted on 07/04/2006 10:29:22 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

That is a classic!!!

I haven't seen it in quite some time! Thanks for bringing it back out for us. :)


138 posted on 07/04/2006 10:30:13 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
So, when a zebra eats and kills grass, that is because he is a Satan infested sinner? LOL

Not exactly. If you're truly interested I'll be glad to share it with you.

139 posted on 07/04/2006 10:31:02 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
God designed nothing that kills. Death and destruction came about because of the rebellion of man and Satan.

So, the lion that goes after a gazelle is just playing? Carnivores had no need for meat before Satan?

140 posted on 07/04/2006 10:31:47 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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