Posted on 06/22/2006 8:43:39 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
Editor's note: On the evening of July 17, 1996, at 8:19 p.m., TWA Flight 800, a Boeing 747, took off from Kennedy Airport, bound for Paris. At 8:31 p.m., over 730 people watched Flight 800 explode, killing all 230 of the people aboard.
Not long afterwards, millions of Americans watched their televisions in fascinated horror as search and rescue crews looked for survivors among the flaming debris. Only dead bodies were recovered.
Flight 800 is mostly an ugly memory for people these days. The U.S. government issued an explanation that a fuel tank had somehow exploded. Yet, they flatly denied any evidence existed of foul play, including the possibility that Flight 800 had been blown out of the air by a missile.
All but a few journalists accepted the government's version of events. Few bothered to investigate the numerous eyewitnesses, the radar records and the physical evidence that all suggested a strikingly different explanation of Flight 800's untimely demise. And those few who did question the government's version were made to look like fools or, worse, thrown in jail and prosecuted as criminals for meddling in an official investigation.
What really happened to Flight 800? ....
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Do you believe every documentary you watch on TV? I'm sure you fell hook, line, and sinker for Dan Rather's 60 Minutes hit piece on GWB.
And then the Clinton Admin started to spin it. Let's keep in mind that Clinton allowed attacks on America and Americans and never answered one attack. Clinton was not about to have to answer an attack. It had to be spun to be an accident.
Not if 60 minutes ran it? Have you actually see the documentary and the test they did?
Don't bet your life on the "if I didn't see it, it didn't happen" theory. I have been involved in designing several systems (smaller than a 747 center fuel tank) where we kept a N2 blanket in the vapor space of a vessel that contained a combustible gas. We had to do this because of past explosions that occurred when the air/fuel concentration fell below the UEL. From there, all you need is the spark and BOOM! Flooding the vapor space with N2 pushes all the O2 out. This inerting prevents explosions by removing the "air" leg of the fire triangle. Basically, the size of the spark is meaningless in a deflagration or explosion if the air/fuel mixture is between the LEL and UEL. Thus, the theory is entirely valid.
Clinton did attack other countries but the attacks were always in the middle of some scandal.
I've watched the documentary you are referring to, in addition to reading "First Strike: TWA Flight 800 and the Attack on America," written by Jack Cashill and James Sanders. I also own the video produced by Cashill that goes into MUCH more detail than the shill piece put out by Discovery. If you would take the time to do some real research instead of letting a liberal TV show do your thinking for you, you might not be so willing to buy into the "official" story.
OK.
What about the LaudaAir 767 that came apart over Thailand in 1991? The investigation found that computer malfunction caused the reverse thrust that is used to slow down on landing to become engaged in flight. That, to my knowledge, is the only identified incident of that happening. Or SwissAir MD11 off Nova Scotia in 1998? Wiring caused that one. Or the DC-10 in Chicago that lost an engine due to a faulty bolt in 1979? That was a one time event as well. None of those causes were believed to be possible but all of them occured. Accidents happen. Nothing maufactured is 100% fool proof. Things go wrong, and often things go wrong only once because the investigation identifies the cause and it's corrected. Not everything is a conspiracy.
What was Boeing's response?
I'm actually not finding a lot about that. I found these:
TWA Flight 800 Crash Coverage CNN
Learning From A Disaster From 2/08/2006
The safety board's conclusion is leading to new rules requiring airlines to modify commercial jet aircraft to reduce the risk of explosions - citing the TWA Flight 800 and explosions involving three other airliners since 1989.
The rules could also make planes safer from missile attack by terrorists, one expert said.
Parker, working with subcontractor Honeywell International Inc., is supplying a new fuel-tank safety system that substitutes non-burning nitrogen for volatile oxygen in the tanks through a separation system that Parker helped develop.
The system's core technology - the unit that removes oxygen from the air - is supplied by Parker, which has four decades of experience in building such units for military planes.
Liz Verdier, a Boeing spokeswoman, said Boeing already has decided to begin installing the new system on all new 747s and 737s this year.
Verdier said the company will make available kits for retrofitting existing airliners if the FAA decides that the 3,200 planes in the current fleet, including planes made by Airbus and Boeing, should be covered by the new rules. Total cost for the conversion is estimated at more than $800 million.
The National Transportation Safety Board determines the
probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:
An explosion of the center wing fuel tank (CWT), resulting from ignition of the flammable fuel/air mixture in the tank.
The source of ignition energy for the explosion could not be determined with certainty, but,
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001208X06204&key=1
Yeah. The brilliantly planned aspirin factory attack comes to mind. :)
But he never answered an attack on us. Just played "World Police Force".
The attacks were as you describe plus he could argue that he did use the military. But the point still stands that they weren't used as intended.........in defense of their own.
The NTSB was not involved in the recovery, reconstuction, nor determination of cause. This investigation was spearheaded by the FBI and the CIA, under complete control of the Clintons at the time. Therefore, any statement put out by the NTSB is based on what they were told to say by the Clinton spin machine. Go back and watch the CIA cartoon to see the end result of their "investigation." Witnesses were never allowed to testify. Journalists were arrested for trying to uncover the truth. The entire event was covered up and spun to the Clinton's political advantage during an election year.
Come on. If you are EOD you know better than that.
If you actually want people to consider your version of the story, you might want to cut back on the smart-assery.
A smart-ass is somebody who corrects your spelling in a blog and says, "when it comes to explosives, I'm far superior to you." I didn't start it. I'm simply being blunt. If you're offended, it's not my problem.
William Donaldson, re-interviewed a key witness, Mike Wire, whose testimony was used to create the government's explanation.
Donaldson said Wire's testimony was used extensively by the CIA in developing its theory.
But Wire says the agency completely distorted his statement and never interviewed him.
Google Map Used to Bolster Missile Claim: Researcher verifies testimony of key FBI witness (TWA 800)
I don't have much time right now to respond individually to some of the posts on this thread, but I will later. Although you have basically wrapped the whole thing up already.
No, it has happened several times. And what TWA 800 conspiracy folks won't tell you is that TWA 800's sister aircraft also exploded in midair due to a suspected fuel tank explosion. Both aircraft were bought and built for the Iranian Air Force. Both aircraft were built to the same specifications. And both ended up exploding in flight. The USAF E-4B is a similar derivative of the 747-100 and the USAF identified the exact fuel tank heating problem attributed to the TWA 800 incident before TWA 800 went down. Coincidence? Hardly. The problem with all man made equipment is that it is inherently imperfect. That results in failures. Fortunately, most aren't as serious as the TWA 800 incident.
Please tell me you are kidding here. You do know that is completely false don't you.
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