Posted on 06/22/2006 5:33:13 AM PDT by white trash redneck
Islam is incompatible with modern Western society, according to a majority of those responding to a recent Dutch survey. Most of the people polled expressed a negative view of Islam and Muslims.
The survey was released the same week that a Dutch Justice Ministry report said radical Islam had made significant inroads among the country's immigrants, posing a threat to the nation's security.
Known for its laissez-faire social attitudes, the sharp turn in public opinion against Islam in the Netherlands has sparked a debate that has prompted criticism of Queen Beatrix and the government for allegedly abandoning Western values in the face of Muslim pressure.
The poll conducted by Dutch research firm Motivaction for the GPD newspaper chain on June 2 found that 63 percent of those surveyed believed Islam was incompatible with modern European life.
More than a quarter of respondents said Muslim immigrants were rude, lazy, intolerant and prone to criminal behavior. They said the increase in Muslim immigration has had a negative effect on civic and social life, with almost 80 percent saying relations between Muslims and non-Muslims had become strained.
Government-backed initiatives to acculturate Muslim immigrants had failed, respondents said, as most believed that many immigrants had walled themselves off from Western society in an attempt to create outposts of their home cultures on Dutch soil.
Some government-sponsored moves to welcome Muslims have sparked controversy. In an address to parliament on June 6, Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende applauded Queen Beatrix for agreeing not to shake hands with the leaders of the Mobarak Mosque in The Hague during a state visit to commemorate the mosque's 50th anniversary on June 2.
Queen Beatrix agreed not to shake hands with the Muslim leaders in deference to their belief that Islam forbids men to touch women other than their wives. This move was a laudable "example of religious tolerance," the prime minister said, that would make Muslims feel more welcome.
Conservative MP Geert Wilders said he was "purple" with rage at the queen's decision, calling it "dhimmi behavior." A dhimmi is a person of the dhimma, an Arabic term that refers in Islamic law to the pact of surrender contracted between non-Muslims and their Muslim conquerors.
"The queen and Prime Minister Balkenende are putting Dutch norms and values in a bargain sale," Wilders said.
The MP said the government, "under the pretext of tolerance, is selling out Dutch values such as equality between men and women." "We must instead make the case for Dutch norms and values," Wilders said.
The Brussels Journal commented that Queen Beatrix's tolerance appeared only to extend to Muslims, reporting that in 1982 she refused to meet with an Orthodox Jewish group because they didn't shake hands with women.
According to the justice and interior ministers, the threat of terrorism from radical Islam is "substantial."
The ministers told parliament that a "rapid spread of the Jihadistic ideology" was underway, with a number of moderate mosques passing under the control of Islamist ideologues.
"Radical movements, like Salafism, are currently gaining influence rapidly, both on the Internet and in more and more mosques. They prefer to use the Dutch language so that more and more young Muslims are reached, with all possible radicalization risks as a result," the ministers said.
The ministry report warned of possible repercussions from the upcoming release of former Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali's film Submission 2, which criticizes Islam for intolerance of homosexuals. The report said, "Controversial debates or artistic quotes about Islam in the Netherlands can be abused by radical Muslims abroad to agitate against the Netherlands."
Citing the Muhammad cartoon controversy in Denmark, the report suggested that Muslim reaction to Hirsi Ali's film could be violent. "Not only political interests but also economic interests as well as the safety of embassies and Dutch troops abroad can be in jeopardy," the report said.
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult.
Moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
"I think there are moderate Muslims, they are even the large majority, but I do not believe there is a moderate Islam,"
Philippe de Villiers, head of the anti-immigrant Movement for France (MPF) party
"Islam is incompatible with modern Western society."
Most people know this to be true. Few are willing to admit it, though.
Put any "progressive", lecturing, better-than-thou sack of hypocritical shiite domestic Liberal or European butt on the line, and watch how fast the cowardly little cockroaches come scurrying back to sanity. Wish we could potshot the traitorous little bastards as they hightail it back into point-blank range.
I had a Muslim client who refused to shake my hand. My business partner gave him a pass on it, saying it was just part of his culture. I told him that this is America and in our culture, business professionals shake hands and the client needed to get over it.
Even Is-Slime!
Kiss the rock goodbye sheet for brains! It aint gonna be there forever!
The Dutch get it.When will the people and government of the U.S. When a million people are killed in a nuclear attack.
Interesting. Would your business partner have been so accomodating had it been a southerner refusing to shake hands with you if you were black? I think you need to work with a better class of people!
I told him that this is America and in our culture, business professionals shake hands and the client needed to get over it.
And that is the crux of the matter.
I wouldn't go to another country and demand that MY customs supersede that country's.
Try having a successful business meeting, for example, in Japan with a handshake instead of the customary bow...
They need to get moving, time is running out for Eurabia.
Most dutch are right.
Lock and load.
"Islam is incompatible with modern Western society."
"Most people know this to be true. Few are willing to admit it, though."
I keep trying to tell my friends and relatives this, but not all of them will listen or believe it. I get the "we don't want to talk about politics" bit.
What they mean is "your politics".
You should assume that someone so devoted to that "culture" will also make the most outrageous lies as a matter of course, suddenly remember that he's not allowed to pay interest if he makes partial payments, or simply walk away from the deal at any moment.
"No Communist, Fascist, or any other totalitarian committed to the destruction...of the principles and practices of democracy should be permitted to teach in a democracy. Freedom does not imply freedom to destroy freedom." -- Dr. Clarence R. Decker, President of the University of Kansas City, 1949
The bold sentence is the point multiculturalists can't seem to understand. Tolerance of a belief system sworn to destroy you is suicidal folly.
I was just watching an HBO special on the children of Beslan - sad.
He was a Southern Boy. I am a Northerner. He kept a copy of "How to Love a Yankee" in his bathroom. In retaliation, his ashes are sitting on a shelf next to me waaaay north of the Mason-Dixon line. ;)
EXACTLY!
I hated to go to strip clubs, but that's where the deals were made. When some women coworkers were complaining about it, one of the guys finally told them, "this is where deals get made in our business...if you don't like it, you're in America and free to switch careers...or just get over it!"
;-)
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