Posted on 06/12/2006 10:24:20 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON - Remember the Department of Homeland Security's "no-fly'' lists that erratically flagged 3-year-old children and dozens of men named David Nelson as terrorists seeking to board commercial airplanes? Well, now privacy experts are warning America to prepare for the "no-work'' list.
As Congress debates immigration reform, experts say a little-discussed aspect of the bill, mandatory employee eligibility verification, is likely to have a colossal impact on the lives of every person in the U.S. labor market -- citizen and foreigner alike.
"Everyone who wants to work will feel this provision,'' said Tim Sparapani, legal counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "People are just beginning to understand the implications of it, and they're big.''
The need for a nationwide system through which employers can verify whether potential workers are citizens or legal residents has been the one element of the pending immigration reform upon which Republicans and Democrats have largely agreed.
But privacy advocates say the rush to mandate widespread eligibility checks is being done with little understanding of the technical snafus that could wrongly put thousands of people out of work each year while leading to rampant discrimination.
And, they warn, the government may also begin to compile new and vast stores of knowledge on every employable man, woman and child.
Department of Homeland Security officials and advocates of the employer verification system say privacy activists are fanning overblown fears.
No personal information is stored or tracked, they maintain, and the program is devised to protect employees from being left jobless while waiting for a green light from the system.
Currently that system is called the Basic Pilot Program, and it is voluntary. About 6,000 participating employers use it annually to electronically check workers' I-9 forms against Social Security and visa info.
Should the system go national, it will have to accommodate a U.S. work force of about 144 million people.
About 57 million people, according to the Department of Labor, take new jobs each year, 13.4 million in Western states alone.
Mark Rotenberg, president of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said most Americans wrongly think they will be exempt from verification.
"Generally speaking, people who aren't in the immigrant community assume it won't affect them. But for the system to work, it has to encompass the entire American work force,'' he said.
The bills, he said, "put the Social Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security in the middle of every employment decision in the United States.''
Under the Senate bill, employers would be required to use the system to check every new employee, while the House requires employers to check current workers as well as prospective ones.
"This is many orders of magnitude greater than what currently exists,'' Sparapani said. "As a computer network problem, that's a massive undertaking.''
Chris Bentley, spokesman for the U.S. Department Citizenship and Immigration, which oversees the program, said he is confident the Basic Pilot Program could rapidly expand if required.
"Absolutely,'' he said.
Bentley noted that the system is not a database that needs to be created, but rather an interface that can access information from the Social Security Administration and USCIS records.
Ramping up the system, then, would require money and resources to accommodate the heavy influx of new users.
Currently, when employers enter a workers' Social Security or visa number along with other identifiers such as birth date, the system either confirms an employee's eligibility or issues what is called a "tentative non-confirmation.''
Employers are required to notify workers, who then have 10 days to contest it.
During that time, employers are prohibited from firing, suspending or docking pay. Bentley also noted that employees must already be hired and working before the verification can be done, so that employees are not waiting on the wheels of bureaucracy to turn in order to feed their families.
"No one is in a holding pattern here,'' he said.
But reality does not always conform to law.
According to the UCSIS's own 2002 study, employers do use the pilot system to screen applicants. And when they receive a tentative non-confirmation, "job applicants are unlikely to be notified,'' the study found.
Moreover, 67 percent of employees who contested a non-confirmation reported being suspended, docked pay or having their job training delayed while they sorted out their records.
A 2004 agency report found that erroneous non-confirmations for foreign born workers was "unacceptably high'' and "higher than desirable'' for U.S.-born workers.
The errors, it found, are largely the result of data entry mistakes and accuracy problems with either the Social Security or USCIS databases.
"This creates burdens for employees and employers, increased verification costs for the government and led to unintentional discrimination against foreign-born persons,'' the study found.
These days the USCIS pegs the overall error rate as low as 1.4 percent.
But extrapolated to 54 million workers in a mandatory national system, and that could result in more than 750,000 people each year wrongly told they aren't eligible to work.
Sparapani likened it to DHS's no-fly list, which led to dozens of men named David Nelson being detained at airports because one man named David Nelson apparently was listed as a potential terrorist.
"I've called this system the ‘no-work list,''' Sparapani said.
"Pick your common surname. It's a nightmare for the system. And imagine not being able to work and provide for your family,'' he said.
While the Senate bill provides employees with broader ability to contest and appeal their finding, the House version does not.
But accuracy could have its dangers as well.
The more information the government collects in the name of preserving accuracy and preventing identity fraud, the more information the government has on all of us, experts point out.
"It's the government creating another system of identification'' Rotenberg said.
While DHS officials maintained that no employment data is tracked or stored, Rotenberg and others predicted it someday would be. And without privacy restrictions on how the information is used, they warned, numerous agencies could potentially tap into the data at any time.
Ultimately, though, immigration experts said the employer verification program, even with its faults, is the best way to block illegal immigration.
"There are legitimate concerns in terms of privacy and the rights of individuals to access and correct their records,'' said Deborah Meyers, a senior policy expert at the Migration Policy Institute.
But, she said, "ultimately, from an immigration perspective, only an employer verification system has the potential to reduce illegal immigration to the United States, because ultimately it's the job magnet that draws illegals to the U.S.
"The deterrent has to be the inability to get a job,'' she said.
Exactly right. Employers are already required to check names of all potential employees against a "terrorist list." OK it's a bit of joke since most individuals on the list have 20 or more known aliases (most of them containing "Mohammed") and false positives are very common. Still the obligation to check is there.
There is also a strict requirement on all health care providers who accept Medicare to check applicants against a federal list of individuals barred from Medicare work (it's a much larger list than you might think).
Deborah Meyers, a senior policy expert at the Migration Policy Institute... said, "ultimately, from an immigration perspective, only an employer verification system has the potential to reduce illegal immigration to the United States, because ultimately it's the job magnet that draws illegals to the U.S.
IMO that's a bunch of hooey. Maybe in the 'olden days' it was mostly for the jobs, now I think its more so for the "FREEBIES". And that is exactly what these uneducated invaders think it is - "free".
Voluntary is good.
The smartest way to combat illegal immigration is to dry up the incentive - employment - and go after the employers. Make it hard enough for them to get jobs and they will self-deport and fewer will come over. If someone is not willing to crack down on employers and provide them the means to determine if a person is legal or not - then they are not serious about fixing illegal immigration.
I'd say a job AND ("free") bennies is more like it.
Really, I don't see how this gives the government any more information than it already compiles through the IRS and Social Security.
How come nobody has been worried about privacy and government involvement in employment relationships before this?
Really, I don't see how this gives the government any more information than it already compiles through the IRS and Social Security.
How come nobody has been worried about privacy and government involvement in employment relationships before this?
how about cross referencing DEPORTATION lists with voter registration lists...
Am I reading this right? You'll need permission from the state in able to work legally?
If it were happening under a Clinton Administration, would you be for it?
Be for what? Providing a means for employers to verify whether a person is legal or not? Of course. Not sure what that has to do with who is President.
Do you want to crack down on employers who hire illegals or not?
I received a Happy 60th birthday card for El Presidente Bush from the RNC today. Promptly tore it up and threw it in the trash with the rest of the garbage.
I at one time believed in Bush, and contributed regularly to the RNC, but ceased doing so when Bush abandoned his base. Bush is no longer serious about border security and enforcement of the law against companies that employ illegal aliens.
All this does is provide another method to illegally get permission to work. Of course, an undercover nark, trying to penetrate one of the gangs, may find such a system amusing.
"Be for" a mandatory national ID card in order to work? Next is a "mark" in order to buy food, etc.
Card? Not sure that's needed. My only objection to a national ID card is that it is yet another card I have to carry around in my wallet. Other than inconvenience I don't care one way or another. The Feds already have one - its called Social Security Number.
But the requirement is to have a efficient system where employers can check on legal status of workers. That must happen if we want to crack down on employers that hire illegals. Anyone that doesn't want some sort of system to meet this requirement isn't serious about fighting illegal immigration.
Well, I don't want the number of the Beast tattooed on my forehead either, so I must not be "serious" about fighting illegal immigration then.
I had to provide a state picture ID, social security card, birth certificate, in addition to a US passport when I got on with my current company.
If you can't, in a week, provide two, or more, forms of ID that says you're here legally.......hike to the border.
I think the government should even be persuaded to give you a ride.
Perhaps you missed the problems even a week or two process can uncover:
"According to the UCSIS's own 2002 study, employers do use the pilot system to screen applicants. And when they receive a tentative non-confirmation, "job applicants are unlikely to be notified,'' the study found.
Moreover, 67 percent of employees who contested a non-confirmation reported being suspended, docked pay or having their job training delayed while they sorted out their records.
A 2004 agency report found that erroneous non-confirmations for foreign born workers was "unacceptably high'' and "higher than desirable'' for U.S.-born workers.
The errors, it found, are largely the result of data entry mistakes and accuracy problems with either the Social Security or USCIS databases.
"This creates burdens for employees and employers, increased verification costs for the government and led to unintentional discrimination against foreign-born persons,'' the study found.
These days the USCIS pegs the overall error rate as low as 1.4 percent.
But extrapolated to 54 million workers in a mandatory national system, and that could result in more than 750,000 people each year wrongly told they aren't eligible to work."
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