US doctors begin Zarqawi autopsy

BBC ^ | 06/10/06

[GSlob]

"(2) 500 lb bombs on one little house should yield a couple of teacups full of body parts to autopsy...or at the very least...the concussion from said bombs would kill even the cockroaches...."
If one is to believe the reports on him being on that stretcher, he must have been reasonably far from the bomb blast and been hit by a few large chunks of collapsing wall masonry, and/or VERY few fragments from the bomb casing - he was neither torn to shreds nor made into a sieve, i.e. whatever hit his body was few in number.

[nonliberal]

It is unclear if Zarqawi's remains will be released to his family in Jordan.

Sure. After they are soaked in pig's blood.

[Old Student]

"I don't think you'd be offending the hogs."

I was thinking more in terms of poisoning the poor things, myself. Anyone that full of hate must be poisonous.

[SauronOfMordor]

AFTER THE AUTOPSY THROW HIS BODY IN THE STREET, MINUS HIS HEAD AND LET HIS FAMILY COLLECT THAT.

Better yet, remove head, attach hog head (sew it on well), and dump the body in front of his family's house from a passing van

[Old Student]

It's too late. To do it properly, we'd have had to start while he was still alive. I bet they just want to see if he had an alien brainsucker or something to cause him to be that hateful.

[muir_redwoods]

Only the US Government would pay to drop 2 500-lb bombs on someone from a 20 million dollar aircraft and then pay another few grand to see how the sucker died.

He got blowed up! Satisfied?

[Chgogal]

"His account could not be independently verified."

And this why is MSM is so poorly thought of. Until independently verified, "stories" like this should not be reported. It is heartening to see analyst down grades of the likes of NYT. It is heartening to see the downward spiral of circulation of the likes of NYT. They have worked diligently at it and are reaping the rewards.

[SauronOfMordor]

If one is to believe the reports on him being on that stretcher, he must have been reasonably far from the bomb blast and been hit by a few large chunks of collapsing wall masonry, and/or VERY few fragments from the bomb casing - he was neither torn to shreds nor made into a sieve, i.e. whatever hit his body was few in number

Concussion effects may have caused massive internal bleeding and organ damage, while leaving the skin intact.

[shield]

GOOD WEEKEND...WE GOT THE LOW LIFE THUG...

[GSlob]

To get concussion only he would have to be pretty far away- the bomb did have a casing, and there was flying masonry. With massive internal bleeding and organ [brain] damage he'd be unconscious on that stretcher. The organ damage was there - he died from it, but the brain was still functional enough for him to react to the people placing him on that stretcher. He would have needed an unusually thick and well-padded skull to ascribe it to the concussion.

[SaveUS]

"Questions have arisen over how Zarqawi died..."
A 500 pound bomb double tap courtesy of the USAF will do it every time."

I think more questions will arise as to how the heck did he live? Not that I am not elated that he got to see who got him, but, just dang.
GO AIR FORCE! (Football Team and Bomber Guys)

[I_Like_Spam]

I understand the concept of psychological warfare, but I ain't sure that this would achieve the laudable goal of freaking out and demoraliing the enemy.

I don't think for a second that Zarqawi or Bin Ladin or el-Masri or the other islamofascist leaders believe in this crap about pigs being "unclean" for a second. This kind of psych warfare would have to be directed at the ignorami who Zarqawi et al persuade to sign on as suicide bombers and supporters.

The al-qaeda leadership are experts at jerking around and spinning stories for these common folk who are their dupes. Beating them at their own game would be hard to do, this game is their bread and butter.

The late Zarqawi and the rest of their leadership are basically just run of the mill international communists and socialists that use the peasants' superstition and religion against them. Pretending as if Bin Ladin, for example, is a devout muslim holy man is just a lie.

Psychological warfare can and should be used, but its hard to do effectively.

President Bush's idea of introducing democratic forms of government address this very idea, as they reduce the influence of the islamofascist warlords and give the peasants a vote.

[Pistolshot]

I don't think for a second that Zarqawi or Bin Ladin or el-Masri or the other islamofascist leaders believe in this crap about pigs being "unclean" for a second.

There is your problem. These people are raised with specific beliefs, pigs being one of them. No matter the perversion of their religion, they still hold the precepts of their faith.
Can it work? Possibly, they are still a backward, superstitious people. It was thought at the turn of the century to probably not be effective, but Pershings use and the threat of use did subdue the Moros.

[Charles Martel]

"Why not feed his remains to the hogs?"

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What you got against hogs?

No kidding... that Muslim meat is unclean, y'know. ;-)

I can see a Far Side-like cartoon, with the pigs weighing the options. One of them finally say: "I saw we do it, and trichinosis be damned!"

[Old Student]

"I saw we do it, and trichinosis be damned!"

If I'd been drinking when I read that, you'd owe for a new monitor... ;)

[Peelod]

http://www.ccmjournal.com/pt/re/ccm/abstract.00003246-200501001-00011.htm;jsessionid=GMpFCGVcDLjTjJyLTM11pXHJHdLFBz48pTVrWnGJ1nQpFnbxvtyx!-818462210!-949856145!8091!-1

Conventional terrorism and critical care.

Scientific Reviews
Critical Care Medicine. 33(1) Supplement:S61-S65, January 2005.
Singer, Pierre MD; Cohen, Jonathan D. MD; Stein, Michael MD

Abstract:
Incidents of conventional weapons terror are increasingly part of the reality of the modern world, and in Israel, 19,948 incidents have been reported from September 2000 to December 2003. Most victims are injured in explosions resulting from suicide bombings. Exposure to the blast (primary mechanism of injury) may produce unique injuries affecting gas-containing organs, including perforation of the eardrums (most common injury); pulmonary blast injury, characterized by alveolar capillary disruption and bronchopleural fistulas; and bowel perforation, which is uncommon and may be delayed from 1 to 14 days after the injury. However, most injuries are the result of penetrating trauma (secondary mechanism) resulting from bomb fragments and nails, bolts, and steel pellets embedded in the bomb striking the victim, and blunt trauma (tertiary mechanism) sustained when the victim is propelled against an object by the blast wind. The severity of the injuries is increased when the blast occurs in a confined space. Victims of terror-inflicted injuries have a high Injury Severity Score (30% >16), a high requirement for intensive care unit admission (22.8% in Israel), and have a more prolonged hospital course and higher mortality than victims of any other form of trauma.

(C) 2005 Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, Inc.