Posted on 06/08/2006 12:51:09 PM PDT by blam
Third century Roman inscriptions discovered in the Basque Country
06/08/2006
Archaeologists in the site of Iruña-Veleia have discovered an epigraphic set "among the most important of the Roman world" with drawings from the third century and a representation of a Calvary.
Archaeological site in Iruña-Veleia
Archaeologists in the site of Iruña-Veleia have discovered an epigraphic set "among the most important of the Roman world," with a series of 270 inscriptions and drawings from the 3rd century and a representation of a Calvary, "the most ancient known up to this moment."
The managers of the archaeological site, located near the Alavan town of Nanclares de Oca, have officially unveiled these findings, identified and analysed last summer.
The tools with the inscriptions and drawings, most of them ceramics, were found in a room of the "Domus de pompeia valentina," one of the urban residences of the old city of Veleia, built up in the last quarter of the first century and inhabited until the fifth century.
A 57-square metre room was found in that town, sealed as in a "time capsule with its contents untouched," and inside there were feeding remains and fragments of different recipients and other tools that had been used for writing.
The Egypt expert of the University of Barcelona Montserrat Rius has explained that some Latin inscriptions refer to the ancient Egyptian history and its divinities, and has noted there are also hieroglyphic inscriptions "with a perfect layout" that make experts think they were taught to children.
In the findings, the "early and extraordinary testimonies of Christianisation" stand out. For instance, the presentation of a Calvary, "the most ancient known up to this moment," a small piece "between eight and ten square centimetres."
Archaeologists also highlighted that "this is one of the most important epigraphic sets in the Roman world," as important as those in Pompeii, Rome or Vindolanda (northern England).
GGG Ping.
church history ping.
"For a fun time, call Agrippina @ VVV-VIII!
"Romanes eunt domus"?
BTT
Click on th link in post #7.
BRIAN: It-- it says, 'Romans, go home'.
CENTURION: No, it doesn't. What's Latin for 'Roman'? Come on!
BRIAN: Aah!
CENTURION: Come on!
BRIAN: 'R-- Romanus'?
CENTURION: Goes like...?
BRIAN: 'Annus'?
CENTURION: Vocative plural of 'annus' is...?
BRIAN: Eh. 'Anni'?
CENTURION: 'Romani'. 'Eunt'? What is 'eunt'?
BRIAN: 'Go'. Let--
CENTURION: Conjugate the verb 'to go'.
BRIAN: Uh. 'Ire'. Uh, 'eo'. 'Is'. 'It'. 'Imus'. 'Itis'. 'Eunt'.
CENTURION: So 'eunt' is...?
BRIAN: Ah, huh, third person plural, uh, present indicative. Uh, 'they go'.
CENTURION: But 'Romans, go home' is an order, so you must use the...?
BRIAN: The... imperative!
CENTURION: Which is...?
BRIAN: Umm! Oh. Oh. Um, 'i'. 'I'!
CENTURION: How many Romans?
BRIAN: Ah! 'I'-- Plural. Plural. 'Ite'. 'Ite'.
CENTURION: 'Ite'.
BRIAN: Ah. Eh.
CENTURION: 'Domus'?
BRIAN: Eh.
CENTURION: Nominative?
BRIAN: Oh.
CENTURION: 'Go home'? This is motion towards. Isn't it, boy?
BRIAN: Ah. Ah, dative, sir! Ahh! No, not dative! Not the dative, sir! No! Ah! Oh, the... accusative! Accusative! Ah! 'Domum', sir! 'Ad domum'! Ah! Oooh! Ah!
CENTURION: Except that 'domus' takes the...?
BRIAN: The locative, sir!
CENTURION: Which is...?!
BRIAN: 'Domum'.
CENTURION: 'Domum'.
BRIAN: Aaah! Ah.
CENTURION: 'Um'. Understand?
BRIAN: Yes, sir.
CENTURION: Now, write it out a hundred times.
BRIAN: Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. Hail Caesar, sir.
CENTURION: Hail Caesar. If it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off.
BRIAN: Oh, thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Hail Caesar and everything, sir! Oh. Mmm!
Presently I'm reading the book: Ancient Titicaca, The Evolution Of Complex Society In Southern Peru And Northern Bolivia by Charles Stanish, 1956.
On page 206, here is what is written: Most of what we know about the great pre-Inca Aymara senorios of the Titicaca Basin comes from the information recorded by Cieza, Cobo and other early historians. In one of the most important quotes about the pre-Inca peoples, Cieza relates:
"Before the Inca reigned, according to many Indians from Collao, there was in their province two great lords (senores), one named Zapana and the other Cari, and these senores conquered many pucaras that are their fortifications, and that one of them entered Lake Titicaca, and found on the major island (Isla del Sol) bearded white people with whom they fought and put all of them to death. And more people say, that after (these events), there were great battles with the Canas and Canchis. (Cieza 1553: chapter 100).
More reports of white people in the Andes. Chachapoyas?
I'd like to get to the bottom of this mystery one day.
It reads, "Here may be found the last words of Joseph of Aramathia. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the Castle of Aaauuuggghhh..."
"Viracocha - and in some cases his 'men - was described as being a Caucasian, bearded man in some writings, with white skin, hair on the face and beautiful emerald eyes in others wearing long white robes and sandals, carrying a staff, with a cougar lying at his feet. He was a kind and peace-loving god."
Studying these ruins was among the most fascinating things I ever did in my life. I'm pretty sure my wife also enjoyed it as much as she did anything since we were married.
Stuff like this article fascinate me to the depths of my soul.
Our Latin teacher asked that he not share these sayings with us since, he was advanced for his age, but we were still battling with poohburty!
Wow, that's really cool, I'd never even heard the specifics of that before (just vague references to bearded folks).
"The Walker", La Venta. Note facial features and prominent beard.
Very neat. I'm not generally all that impressed with Graham Hancock, and am not familiar with the piece he's rejoinding (word?), but he seems to have done alright there.
Ditto. But, most of the searches on some of the names lead to his website. (at least the ones in English)
Christianity came early to the Basque Homeland. This is before Constantine.
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