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Tough Stance on Immigration (WA State Conservatives Thwart RINOS)
Seattle Times ^ | May 28, 2006 | Andrew Garber

Posted on 05/28/2006 8:02:32 PM PDT by holyscroller

YAKIMA — In an unexpected move, the state Republican Party on Saturday adopted a platform that states children of illegal immigrants should not be allowed to become United States citizens.

The platform, at least with respect to the children of illegal immigrants, goes further than measures currently under consideration in the Congress. The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution recognizes citizenship for all persons born in the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: aliens; conservativeswin; republicans; rinos; stateconvention
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Rob McKenna, attorney general who was a fairly good guy before he went on to higher office said, "By and large, voters don't pay much attention to the platform," he said.

Wrong Rob, It's the elected Republicans who don't pay much attention to the platform.

1 posted on 05/28/2006 8:02:36 PM PDT by holyscroller
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To: sionnsar; Libertina; bigfootbob; Publius

In spite of all the dirty tricks, closed meetings, a rigged platform committee, etc., justice finally prevailed at the state convention. The Eastern Washingtonians with their common sense saved the day. There is a struggle to the death going on here for the heart, soul and control of the state party. The pro-illegal forces (very powerful here) are not happy campers tonight. GOOD!


2 posted on 05/28/2006 8:07:14 PM PDT by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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Good news! Keep up the good fight....our country hangs in the balance.


3 posted on 05/28/2006 8:26:52 PM PDT by 4integrity
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The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution recognizes citizenship for all persons born in the United States. Wrong.

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Illegals are not subject to U.S. jurisdiction. If they were they would be thrown out.

4 posted on 05/28/2006 8:49:40 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: holyscroller
The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution recognizes citizenship for all persons born in the United States.

Actually, it doesn't say exactly that.

5 posted on 05/28/2006 8:52:32 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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About 67 percent of Washington voters said immigrants who have lived here a number of years should be allowed to apply for legal status and eventually become citizens if they meet conditions such as paying a fine and back taxes. And 13 percent said illegal immigrants should be declared felons and not allowed to work.

I find these poll results a bit suspect. The Sandinista Times wouldn't try to push an agenda would they?

6 posted on 05/28/2006 9:11:14 PM PDT by Maynerd (Defeat Bush's "Leave no Mexican Behind" immigration "reform")
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To: holyscroller

No matter what happens some activst judge will negate the will of the people ... yet again ....


7 posted on 05/28/2006 9:13:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("The Americans on Flight 93 did more to counter terrorism than the Democrats have done in 4 years")
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MESSAGE TO POLITICIANS IN WASHINGTON, D.C.:

BEWARE THE WRATH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

8 posted on 05/28/2006 9:17:01 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America!)
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"A recent poll by Seattle pollster Stuart Elway found that most Washington voters felt that illegal immigrants should be allowed to become citizens."

The pollster the Seattle Times (and the Republican Party) uses is/was married to a big-name Democrat in Seattle. He beats his chest that he's unbiased, but somehow his polls always favor the Libs. (Than again, as far Left as Seattle is, he may have a problem finding somebody sane.)

9 posted on 05/28/2006 9:22:59 PM PDT by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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Good job! Even GA Reps backed down on the illegal children thing. Congrats!


10 posted on 05/28/2006 9:28:22 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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I got on my rant about our "representatives" in Washington today at my son's house.

Surprisingly,everyone there agreed with me.

Vote them all out !




11 posted on 05/28/2006 9:40:13 PM PDT by Mears
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My brother-in-law and his wife are YELLOW-DOG DEMOCRATS and raving Leftists. They are FURIOUS about illegal immigration, open borders, and the politicians in Washington--Democrat and Republican!

I am a Broken-Glass Republican, and I am equally FURIOUS.

Republicans AND Democrats--in fact THE AMERICAN PEOPLE--are

FURIOUS!!!

The politicians in Washington seem to have united Democrats and Republicans--against the politicians!

12 posted on 05/28/2006 9:51:18 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America!)
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children of illegal immigrants should not be allowed to become United States citizens.

Is someone getting smart?


13 posted on 05/28/2006 9:52:27 PM PDT by garylmoore
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To: Libertina; Bobsvainbabblings; moneypenny; Kaylee Frye; Clintonfatigued; wallcrawlr; Lucky2; ...
Thanks to holyscroller for the ping.


Say WA? Evergreen State ping

FReepmail sionnsar if you want on or off this ping list.

Ping sionnsar if you see a Washington state related thread.

14 posted on 05/28/2006 10:59:43 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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16 posted on 05/29/2006 12:56:53 AM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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However, state Attorney General Rob McKenna, one of the state's most prominent Republicans and a keynote speaker at the convention, disagreed with the move. "I believe the [U.S.] Constitution provides otherwise," McKenna said, adding, "I believe that if you are born here, you should be a citizen."

Sure you do. You also believe a candidate that cheats their way into the Governor's mansion should be certified. No wonder you think people that cheat their way into our country should have their children rewarded.

Fredi Simpson, an Hispanic GOP activist from Chelan County and the party's newly elected national committeewoman, said the position on guest workers will be unpopular among growers and their workers.

Considering most of them are illegal and the rest support the illegality no wonder.

McKenna said he doubted the party's positions on immigration would have much effect one way or the other in the coming election. "By and large, voters don't pay much attention to the platform," he said.

Yeah, that's why the past two elections were nationalized to help create Republican majorities because people dind't pay attention to the platforms. That's why Republicans in trouble for failing to keep their elective campaign promises, because we (constituents) didn't pay attention to the platforms.

Hastings may not, though. He has been an outspoken supporter of a guest-worker program that would allow agricultural workers to legally stay in the country temporarily.

That's because there are a lot of illegals living here in Eastern WA and he doesn't have the guts to tell them and their employers to pound sand. And he deserves to lose election. He will anyway, whether in this one or in a few years if the population keeps growing with illegals and transported Cali voters. They hate Republicans, and he's a fool if he believes this stance will change their feelings.

I do find it interesting they cite statistics about how WA voters are apparently okay with all this...then our state platform adopts strict measures? RINO's are actually defeated in the platform? And the guy running against Cantwell is running radio ads against illegal immigration? His own website advocates enforcement first, then guest worker. Which is a stroger stand then the Senate. What does this tell me? That the damn poll is a lie.

17 posted on 05/29/2006 3:12:16 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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Indeed.

I'm kind of shocked this provision won out with our lightweight Republican body here in WA, but it only proves the intensity of feelings on this issue even here. This crosses ideological barriers, Liberals are as outraged as conservatives. It does further buttress Shay's newfound stance on the subject, doesn't it?

Note to Dowd, Admin and the SENATE GOP in WA-

When we win out on the issue here in WA you guys are on the wrong side of this debate.


18 posted on 05/29/2006 3:18:03 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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Interesting that they credit Andrew Garber with the story, but note that "some information came from David Postman" - so, is Postman a blogger or a reporter - or a reporter dressed in in jammys in his living room?


19 posted on 05/29/2006 4:04:41 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (The GOP was created by those opposed to Southern Democrat Plantation Slavery...)
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Fredi Simpson, an Hispanic GOP activist from Chelan County and the party's newly elected national committeewoman, said the position on guest workers will be unpopular among growers and their workers.

"That's going to be the toughest one for me to explain," Simpson said. "They have to go home before they can come back?"

Actually, Fredi, it's very easy: Get your illegal butts back home. If you want to come back, go through the legal process, just like we have to do to visit or migrate to your country.

20 posted on 05/29/2006 4:10:58 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (No More White House Dynasties! Two Adamses and two Bushes are enough. No more Clintons or Bushes!)
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