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Kerry Pressing Swiftboat Case, Long After Loss ["They lied and lied and lied about everything,"]
New York Times ^

Posted on 05/27/2006 10:22:00 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Kerry Pressing Swiftboat Case, Long After Loss By KATE ZERNIKE

John Kerry starts by showing the entry in a log he kept from 1969: "Feb 12: 0800 run to Cambodia."

He moves on to the photographs: his boat leaving the base at Ha Tien, Vietnam; the harbor; the mountains fading frame by frame as the boat heads north; the special operations team the boat was ferrying across the border; the men reading maps and setting off flares.

"They gave me a hat," Mr. Kerry says. "I have the hat to this day," he declares, rising to pull it from his briefcase. "I have the hat."

Three decades after the Vietnam War and nearly two years after Mr. Kerry's failed presidential bid, most Americans have probably forgotten why it ever mattered whether he went to Cambodia or that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth accused him of making it all up, saying he was dishonest and lacked patriotism.

But among those who were on the frontlines of the 2004 campaign, the battle over Mr. Kerry's wartime service continues, out of the limelight but in some ways more heatedly — because unlike then, Mr. Kerry has fully engaged in the fight. Only those on Mr. Kerry's side, however, have gathered new evidence to prove their case.

The Swift boat group continues to spend money on Washington consultants, according to public records, and last fall it gave $100,000 to a group that promptly sued Mr. Kerry, a Democratic senator from Massachusetts, for allegedly interfering with the release of a film that was critical of him.

Some of the principals behind the Swift boat group continue to press their claims.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: Sub-Driver

Bump for reference-1


341 posted on 05/28/2006 7:54:12 AM PDT by Khurkris (Don't blame me. I never answer the phone.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Does Kerry REALLY want to"Go There"?The"Swift Boat Vets"are his very own political HORNETS NEST!!!


342 posted on 05/28/2006 8:04:11 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: gidget7
...all of John Kerry's "...'indiscretions...' (code word TREASON)become known! Not to mention his illegitimate holding of a seat in Congress.

Your comment here is VERY important: John Kerry's ***illegitimate*** holding of a seat in Congress.

Frankly, I believe the UBERphony bastard should be thrown into the Charles River and made to ride its white water down to the Rio Grande then left to dry out in the Mojave
Desert for several years. In fact, John Kerry's traitorous infamy should qualify him for public humiliation and torture.
Congress' Houses desperately need disinfecting!
343 posted on 05/28/2006 8:11:10 AM PDT by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

how I love to watch that WORM SQUIRM : )


344 posted on 05/28/2006 8:30:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: doug from upland; bray

LOL - dfu, I agree.

bray - I just stole these from another FReeper and post 'em on any Kerry thread!


345 posted on 05/28/2006 8:49:31 AM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


346 posted on 05/28/2006 9:20:25 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: goresalooza

I believe you are right. He had it *corrected* on the quiet, by someone inside the DoD.


347 posted on 05/28/2006 9:38:55 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: Peach; All

If you haven't seen this discussion, it's a GREAT read and there are quite a few links posted in the comments.
http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2006/05/bring_it_on.html#comments


348 posted on 05/28/2006 9:48:47 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: SquirrelKing

All of those are so funny but dougs is the best. That one says it all.

Pray for W and Our Troops


349 posted on 05/28/2006 10:23:57 AM PDT by bray (Top 10 Bushbot!!)
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To: KJC1

What a great blog; I see most of the people posting there are onto Kerry's lies.


350 posted on 05/28/2006 10:32:16 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Boston Tea Party; altura

I think you've nailed it. He's built an alternate reality based on all of the lies and exaggerations he's committed over the years, and he can no longer tell truth from fiction.


Good summary. In his mind, what he wanted to have happened, with thousands of stories from sympathetic media releases and self-serving war reports as "evidence", BECAME what he believes actually happened.
351 posted on 05/28/2006 12:13:11 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: bitt

Any idea why his two eyes aren't focused on the same point in that photo?

Maybe Kerry DOES always see two realities.


352 posted on 05/28/2006 12:14:29 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: bray
Scary, ain't it?

Any one of the losers in my pics resemble somewhat ordainary folks.

Doug's have that "glint of insanity" that is quite unnerving.

353 posted on 05/28/2006 12:21:54 PM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: Smedley
The Swift boat group insisted that no boats had gone to Cambodia. But Mr. Kerry's researcher, using Vietnam-era military maps and spot reports from the naval archives showing coordinates for his boat, traced his path from Ha Tien toward Cambodia on a mission that records say was to insert Navy Seals.

"toward" Cambodia - meaning upriver? And what records say Navy SEALS were to be inserted in Cambodia?


"Spot reports from the naval archives" showing the position of his boat???

What kind of record (in the naval archive) has THOSE records (of a secret mission) that show locations of patrol boat in action?

(When NO OTHER) record (of any SEAL Team, patrol boat, or first-person account IN ANY HISTORY of Vietnam!) has a similar story?

Why doesn't ever-so-truthful NY Time reports (proven liar in 4 other accounts!) show us THOSE documents?

354 posted on 05/28/2006 12:26:07 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

he is a babblin' fruitcake, no doubt...

remember the great idea he had to end the WOT during the 2004 campaign but wouldn't tell anyone? What about all the good troops killed since then huh? he is again a murderer...


355 posted on 05/28/2006 12:27:04 PM PDT by bitt ("guests, particularly uninvited ones, are not in a position to make demands...")
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To: free_at_jsl.com

Ya know how they had to rewrite "California Uber Alles" after Reagan won the election?

Turns out that Kerry wasn't in Cambodia on Christmas? Guess they have to rewrite that one.

Are there gonna be any Dead Kennedys songs left after the Democrats are through?

Maybe their cover of Viva Las Vegas?


356 posted on 05/28/2006 12:56:57 PM PDT by Oschisms
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To: bitt

http://americandaily.com/article/13771

When will Americans be rid of Sen. Kerry? As the Boston Herald columnist, Howie Carr, noted in January, “Everyone in Massachusetts, including his ostensible supporters, knows what a complete fraud Kerry is and always has been.” His current efforts to campaign for the presidency once more were, said Carr, “delusional.” These words, of course, could just as easily be applied to Al Gore.

Do not, however, discount the totally bereft Democrat Party’s capacity for self-delusion. It is too soon to say who will emerge as the Party’s choice, but consider yourself sufficiently warned that John F. Kerry still wants to be your next Commander in Chief.


357 posted on 05/28/2006 2:18:48 PM PDT by bitt ("guests, particularly uninvited ones, are not in a position to make demands...")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

John Kerry: 9 big tomatoes in a tiny little can


http://www.canadafreepress.com/contact.htm


358 posted on 05/28/2006 2:26:43 PM PDT by bitt ("guests, particularly uninvited ones, are not in a position to make demands...")
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To: Sub-Driver
Mr. Kerry portrays himself as a wary participant in his own defense, insisting in the two-hour interview that he does not want to dwell on the accusations or the mistakes of his 2004 campaign. "I'm moving on," he says several times.

Lies? Well it doesn't sound like he is moving on so that this is an outright lie.

359 posted on 05/28/2006 3:42:46 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Sub-Driver

Welll, I guess that settles the issue of whether he's delusional, or not!

He sure is!

Someone ought to tell sugar mama to stop by 7/11 and buy the guy a couple dozen clues as well as ten gallons of horse sense.


360 posted on 05/28/2006 3:50:59 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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