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Judge Revokes Bail For Saudi Bus Riders-(update on Saudies raiding a School Bus)
tbo ^ | May 21, 2006 | MIKE WELLS

Posted on 05/21/2006 4:31:37 PM PDT by Flavius

AMPA - A judge revoked bail for two Saudi men arrested Friday for boarding a school bus and riding to Wharton High.

Initially, Mana Saleh Almanajam, 23, and Shaker Mohsen Alsidran, 20, were held in Orient Road Jail on bails of $250 each on misdemeanor trespassing charges. Circuit Judge Monica Sierra decided to hold them at a court appearance Saturday so investigators could dig deeper into their pasts.

A friend of the two University of South Florida students tried to post their bail Friday night, said Ahmed Bedier, Tampa director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, but a jail clerk told the friend that they couldn't be released because they were under an immigration hold until a hearing Saturday morning.

At the hearing, Sierra agreed with a prosecutor that she needed to know more about them before she could feel comfortable releasing them.

The prosecutor said neither man carried identification when they were arrested at Wharton High School, and authorities haven't had an opportunity to gather background information beyond a check of state records.

Almanajam and Alsidran appeared confused by the proceedings and smiled nervously as they stood behind a public defender's table.

Investigators say the men boarded a school bus at Fletcher Avenue and 42nd Street, sat down and began speaking in Arabic. Their behavior concerned the driver, a substitute, who alerted the school district.

The bus was met at Wharton High School by a swarm of officers from the sheriff's Homeland Security Division, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's Regional Domestic Security Task Force, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the FBI.

Bedier called the court's decision to revoke bond an overreaction and tied to the men being Arabic and Muslim.

"The only reason [this happened] is because of who they are, and that's wrong," he said. "How is it that they can say they can't find out who these kids are when they've searched their homes and found nothing? ... Thus far, it doesn't seem like they've been afforded their full rights for something as simple as getting on the wrong bus."

He questioned why the driver didn't tell them not to board if their appearance was suspicious.

Officials who questioned the men Friday said they at first said they were from Morocco but later admitted being from Saudi Arabia. Both arrived in the country six months ago and are enrolled at the English Language Institute at USF. Their reasons for getting on the bus ranged from wanting to enroll in easier English classes to having some fun.

Bedier said the men got on the bus out of a cultural misunderstanding.

"They don't have yellow school buses just for children in their home country," he said.

The judge scheduled a bond review hearing for Tuesday and asked that an Arabic interpreter be present. There was no interpreter Saturday.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: almanajam; alqaeda; alsidran; beslan; bus; cair; culturaldifferences; culturalmixup; dryrun; florida; hijacking; practicerun; saudiarabia; saudis; schoolbus; schoolchildren; tampa; usf
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To: Diogenesis
"I feel bad for muslims in the US if they start going after our children like they did in Beslan."

Locate the terrorist cells in your neighborhood:

IslamicFinder

41 posted on 05/21/2006 5:29:01 PM PDT by 10mm
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To: jebeier
BTW, how much would it cost to send a couple of USF professors to Suadi to teach English over there, instead of having their people come here?

I'll bet that they studied English in Saudi for many years before coming to this country for a polishing and other reasons. They were probably just testing how far they could get with such a ruse. Almost no one in the USA knows about Beslan, but they should.

42 posted on 05/21/2006 5:29:34 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: jebeier
Profiling, Internment, Dissent and a Declaration of War
43 posted on 05/21/2006 5:30:09 PM PDT by Publius
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To: oceanview
"I still do not understand why the bus moved 10 feet after these two guys got on it. "

A highjacked aircraft has a code to squawk

Millions of cadillacs and other gm cars have "ON Star" for emergencies.

Why, haven't we fitted our school busses with a switch that alerts law enforcement and the administration of the school system. One button, like a bank teller.

The driver could move on but instead of school she heads to a designated area.

We have to become more proactive, we can no longer afford to wait and see if it happens here.

44 posted on 05/21/2006 5:34:58 PM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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To: OpusatFR
Kudos to the Judge who took appropriate action to hold these two dry-run frontmen.

Amen. But remember that the SCOFLA is undoubtedly chomping at the bit to overturn any appropriate ruling by a sane judge in that state.

45 posted on 05/21/2006 5:38:57 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Enhance Capitol security: Censure Cynthia!)
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To: Flavius

They don't have English classes in Saudi Arabia?


46 posted on 05/21/2006 5:43:12 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: capt. norm
LOL

Loved the one where Krueger balanced the schoobus see-saw on a mountain peak in Hell (cant remember if that was number 4 or 5!)

47 posted on 05/21/2006 5:44:51 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Diogenesis
The War for Infinite Justice SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESCALATED IN 2001

I signed on to Free Republic after being a 3 year lurker when the name Operation Infinite Justice was dropped for PC reasons.

48 posted on 05/21/2006 5:51:31 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: jimbo123

And the point is.....?


49 posted on 05/21/2006 5:53:32 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Liberals: Working for the conquest of America since VietNam.)
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To: Flavius
Supposedly been at USF studying English for 6 months and can't see big black lettering on the front that says SCHOOL BUS and HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS on the sides?

Sure. right..

Seems like USF is still Jihad University. Sami was just the tip of the iceberg.
50 posted on 05/21/2006 5:55:54 PM PDT by PogySailor (Unleash Jack Bauer on the CIA leakers!)
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To: untrained skeptic
... I would think that lying to police about where they are from is good enough justification for deporting them.

Or giving them Social Security benefits. /sarcasm

51 posted on 05/21/2006 5:58:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (Principle over party.)
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To: capt. norm

LOL


52 posted on 05/21/2006 6:02:10 PM PDT by GulfWar1Vet (Remember 9/11...and the reason we are fighting. Islam is a threat to our national security.)
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To: untrained skeptic
Why did they get on a bus to a "HighSchool" instead on an elementary school? I suspect they knew they would attract less attention. I also find it odd that they happen to get on a bus with a substitute driver? Sounds like someone knew what they were doing.
53 posted on 05/21/2006 6:06:28 PM PDT by devane617
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To: Kakaze
Why, haven't we fitted our school busses with a switch that alerts law enforcement and the administration of the school system. One button, like a bank teller.

At minimum, have a button that activates an emergency flasher signal on the bus to indicate to any passing police car that there's trouble on the bus

54 posted on 05/21/2006 6:07:49 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: Flavius

Wonder why the MSM hasn´t interviewed the driver, I would like to know what went on and why the driver did not stop the bus, order them off the bus or call the authorties without moving the bus.


55 posted on 05/21/2006 6:11:43 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: TigersEye
At least 6 months of English lesson in the U.S. -- and can't read the words SCHOOL BUS!

Two thoughts:
1. Just a couple of arrogant Arabs, trying to stir shit and scare folks.
or
2. A couple of arrogant Arabs intentionally baiting authorities to over react and set up a multi million dollar discrimination claim..

Lying - and giving false homeland information to the police SHOULD result in immediate deportation and permanent loss of visa privilege.

Semper Fi
56 posted on 05/21/2006 6:14:02 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
As i mentioned in #53, it sounds like a very well planned situation.
They got on a bus to a high school. They thought two young guys going to a high school would not attract attention, as opposed to getting on a bus to an elementary school.
They picked a bus with a substitute driver. With a little observation or inside info this would be an easy task.
I think these guys were involved in a very well planned test run. Very scary when you dig into the details.
57 posted on 05/21/2006 6:19:24 PM PDT by devane617
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To: Dark Wing

ping


58 posted on 05/21/2006 6:25:19 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Flavius

They just happen to do this on the day there's a substitute bus driver, who doesn't know who the usual passengers are. Coincidence?


59 posted on 05/21/2006 6:29:26 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: devane617

Good points. I agree--it looks like a Beslan test run.


60 posted on 05/21/2006 6:35:10 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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