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Burned out by butt-inskis
Boston Herald.com ^ | May 20, 2006 | Michael Siegel

Posted on 05/21/2006 4:00:08 AM PDT by SheLion

As a physician who has devoted 21 years to advocacy in tobacco control, conducting research and publishing a number of studies on the hazards of secondhand smoke, it is not surprising that I favor a wide range of anti-smoking measures. But anti-smoking tactics adopted by some municipalities, companies and organizations do not serve smokers or the public. The methods are mean-spirited, unsupported by science and attempt to stamp out smoking by punishing and marginalizing smokers. They go too far.

The City Council in Calabasas, Calif., recently enacted an ordinance - supported by several anti-smoking groups - that bans smoking in just about all outdoor areas of the city, including streets and sidewalks, unless there is no other person within 20 feet.

The expressed purposes of the ordinance are to protect nonsmokers from exposure to secondhand smoke and to reduce “the potential for children to associate smoking and tobacco with a healthy lifestyle.”

The hazards of exposure to smoking in the workplace have been proven, but there is no scientific evidence that shows that small, transient exposures to secondhand smoke in outdoor areas - places where people can easily avoid prolonged exposure - represent any serious public health problem.

The argument that these policies are needed to prevent children from seeing people smoke in public would ostracize citizens for pursuing a legal activity. What comes next? Laws that ban fat people from the public square so that children won’t associate obesity with public acceptability? Laws that prohibit people from eating fast food in public so children won’t see this behavior and associate it with a healthy lifestyle?

Frustrated by its inability to outlaw smoking, this arm of the anti-smoking front seeks to outlaw smokers. I’m all for efforts that make smoking seem less glamorous, desirable or cool, but it is wrong to restrict people’s rights because you do not like what they do.

Equally disturbing is another trend applauded by the anti-smoking movement that would have employers fire or refuse to hire smokers. According to Action on Smoking and Health (ASH), a Washington, D.C.-based anti-smoking organization: “Firing smokers is an appropriate and very effective way to stop burdening the great majority of employees who wisely chose not to smoke with the enormous unnecessary costs of smoking by their fellow employees.”

Michigan-based Weyco Inc., announced a policy of denying employment to smokers last year, and it has been followed by the World Health Organization, Scotts Miracle-Gro, Crown Laboratories, the city of Melbourne, Fla., and Truman Medical Centers in Kansas City, Mo.

ASH, along with these employers, argues that these policies are appropriate because they will reduce the increased health care costs associated with smoking. But what they also do is make smokers second-class citizens, depriving them of the right to make a living to support themselves and their families.

Is ASH serious? Should smokers not be allowed to hold jobs? Does it somehow promote public health to make the families of smokers go hungry? Should our society have two distinct classes, one that can work and another which cannot, simply because of a lawful, off-the-job behavior?

An appropriate public health policy for work-site health promotion would provide smoking employees with smoking-cessation programs, not fire them.

I fear that the anti-smoking movement is on the verge of running amok. Ultimately, what is at stake is the credibility of the tobacco-control movement, as well as the integrity of its evidence-based approach to the protection of the public’s health. If we lose that, then the truly legitimate, science-based aspects of tobacco control will be undermined. And then it will become difficult, if not impossible, to advance any policies to protect the public from the hazards of tobacco.


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To: Smokin' Joe
Usally a never smoker with a craniorectal insertion.

Oh my!


61 posted on 05/21/2006 9:58:55 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: RedStateRocker; Lou Foxwell
 Everything you mentioned are illegal.  Tobacco and cigarettes are still a legal commodity. 
62 posted on 05/21/2006 10:00:58 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Burned out by butt-inskis

"Butt-inskis." Are those the people who go around saying, "Already posted here"?

63 posted on 05/21/2006 10:02:18 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside
"Butt-inskis." Are those the people who go around saying, "Already posted here"?

No.  The Doctor was just using that expression when he talks about the professional anti's forcing private businesses into smoking bans.

64 posted on 05/21/2006 10:05:11 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: RedStateRocker
...now I've seen one of those 'old guard' worried that HE may lose his job for smoking cigs.

Yeah. Just wait until cholesterol count, or BMI, or genetic background is used to 'weed' out people.

BTW, coke and 'weed' are not legal. Cigarettes are.

What you seem to think was a problem is apparently getting farther away from what you would consider an ideal situation, not closer, and you are taking joy in that?

WTF?

65 posted on 05/21/2006 10:07:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: SheLion

Ah. You are correct.

I guess there is more than one type.


66 posted on 05/21/2006 10:08:36 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Smokin' Joe
I posted a crazy laughing face for your last remark. I am not sure if you can see it or not, but the image isn't showing for me. It might be my server. But I almost fell off my chair when I read your post. LOL!

Ok, it showed up this time. This is the laughing face I tried to use when I answered you earlier. :)

67 posted on 05/21/2006 10:10:40 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Mr. Brightside
I guess there is more than one type.

Heheh!

68 posted on 05/21/2006 10:11:18 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Smokin' Joe
No, taking joy in busybodies (this guy didn't hire one of my friends who, while a talented engineer indulged) now having to realize that the PRINCIPLE (that the employer can say 'squat' about anything except your product and demeanor AT WORK) is coming back to bit him, may lose employment or health insurance because he smokes cigs.
Smoking Cigarettes (or anything else) is God's way of saying you're making too much money, IMHO.
69 posted on 05/21/2006 10:12:34 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: SheLion
As for smoking bans not hurting businesses, this just isn't so

I forgot to mention in the previous post that neither city would go ahead with a ban unless the other did. Evidently, they didn't believe all the talking points from the smoke free alliance.

70 posted on 05/21/2006 10:13:43 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: Doctor Raoul

You forgot gun-owners and Republicans...


71 posted on 05/21/2006 10:14:36 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Black Birch
I forgot to mention in the previous post that neither city would go ahead with a ban unless the other did. Evidently, they didn't believe all the talking points from the smoke free alliance.

Well, it's a good thing, too, because what the anti's are spewing are nothing but blatant lies!

72 posted on 05/21/2006 10:15:37 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Lou Foxwell
"There is an emotional satisfaction in smoking that goes well beyond nicotine's addictive nature. Part of that satisfaction is akin to punching certain puritans in the nose. Another aspect is the pure enjoyment of a fine cigar." Come on now Lou, you know you are suppose to use psychiatrist prescribed drugs that have more dangerous side effect than smoking does, for that !!
73 posted on 05/21/2006 10:16:06 AM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: SheLion

Mrs. O'Leary's tavern in Gaithersburg, MD actually threw out a member of the Gaithersburg City Council after it was discovered that she supported the city's smoking ban. A little bit of justice for the Smoking Nazis, as far as I'm concerned.


75 posted on 05/21/2006 10:24:29 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thank you.
I'm just finishing up my sixth twelve-hour shift. Need to get to bed now. G'nite!


76 posted on 05/21/2006 10:25:45 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Black Birch

Rolled my own when I smoked.

Yep, my view is 'let the market decide'. Especially WRT bars; I know of bars that had business pick up after the smoking ban in SanFrancisco; my wife's friend said she could stand to go out again, OTOH since my band gets paid a percentage of the bar I'm torn, my equipment and lungs age faster but smokers are often heavier drinkers, which is good for the bottom line......


77 posted on 05/21/2006 10:27:11 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: SheLion
LOL! All I got the first time was the notorious red 'X'.

I figured you might have posted the pic of the guy who was inverted....and maybe he had gone so far in he had disappeared.(8^D)

78 posted on 05/21/2006 10:27:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Tax-chick

"Obviously, I was generalizing."

yes, I know you were, but my point was that there comes a point where increasing the costs causes more problems even for those of us who try to take care of ourselves.


79 posted on 05/21/2006 10:27:26 AM PDT by Shadow Deamon
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping!


80 posted on 05/21/2006 10:31:51 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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