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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: Vicomte13

"Groucho Marx?
Aha, you're a MARXIST!!!"

Yeah, and a grouchy one at that!


2,441 posted on 05/15/2006 8:43:22 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: A CA Guy
"We will probably have another big hit and the President and open border crowd are going to get slapped by the people big time."

Oh yeah..I hear the people who don't follow politics in the background saying "What the hey! We are closing the border after 200+ years?. Oh yea, that needed to be done decades ago..let alone post 9/11."

This is a win win for the pubbies big-time.

2,442 posted on 05/15/2006 8:43:44 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Seattle Conservative

I really don't mind if they want to listen to some of my phone calls, as long as they don't munch on corn chips in the background...lol.


2,443 posted on 05/15/2006 8:43:50 PM PDT by defenderSD (Every rock guitarist I know seems to have an axe to grind.)
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To: Peach

If Tancredo doesn't that's good enough for me as he's been out in front on this issue (and very vocal about it) for a long time. Thanks Peach! Hope all is well w you.


2,444 posted on 05/15/2006 8:43:51 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: TexasPatriot8

"And I've been ripping Bush six ways from Sunday on his lack of any kind of border policy, yet ..."

Am I beginning to sense a pattern here?


2,445 posted on 05/15/2006 8:44:13 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: riri
And the illegals are becoming radicalized and more brazen, South American style.

Nope, you just scared them. No one wants to go back to Mexico.

2,446 posted on 05/15/2006 8:44:35 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

You're just finishing up and I'll be starting in about 12 minutes - whoo hoo!


2,447 posted on 05/15/2006 8:44:47 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: Iscool

thank you--need confirmation my imagination is in check!


2,448 posted on 05/15/2006 8:45:07 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: siznartuf; Wallace T.
No, it was a patently ridiculous post, based on reverse snobbery; not to mention NO knowledge. I chose to ignore the post, but since YOU decided to chime in, I changed my mind.

How many people do both of you know, PERSONALLY, who live in Fairfield county, Conn.? I bet neither of you know any at all.

Well, I LIVE THERE!

None of my gardeners are Hispanics; let alone Hispanic illegals. THEY WERE LL BORN HERE, AS WAS GENERATIONS OF THEIR RESPECTIVE FAMILIES! None of them are Irish, Chinese, Russian/old USSR nationationals, Nigeria or other African born illegals. None of my neighbors have illegals in their employ, to baby sit, mow lawns, clean house, or anything else you have and have not yet mentioned.

Your delusional imaginings, spat out as insults, don't you either of you any good at all; it just makes you both look extremely foolish.

2,449 posted on 05/15/2006 8:45:14 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Earthdweller
Actually, it will be the Republicans that would be hit by a non secured border after all these years since 9-11.

We would be better off if we secured the border IMO.
2,450 posted on 05/15/2006 8:45:15 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: flaglady47

Madam, in my family or my church, some might take positions or do things that I might not always agree with, but that does not mean that they should be excluded. By the same token I do things and take positions that others may dislike. However, we are united by far more than by what divides us. The same holds true of political parties. Causing division in a family or a church or a political party or movement on account of a disagreement on one issue is acceptable only in the rarest of circumstances.


2,451 posted on 05/15/2006 8:45:22 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Seattle Conservative

It's a good one tonight... of course they are all good.


2,452 posted on 05/15/2006 8:45:40 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: mhking

Cubans would say "solo coño!" or "apenas coño!"

"maldiga" is another word sorta for damn.

"coño" can mean other worse words depending if used as a noun .....the "edged or fold" word for vagina or just the f-word as a verb.


2,453 posted on 05/15/2006 8:45:47 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: claudiustg

!)Posted by umgud to Peach
On News/Activism 05/15/2006 11:23:10 PM EDT · 2,328 of 2,423


Dobbs and Tancredo had initial good comments about the speech. Dobbs later changed his tune a bit. Tancredo was all over the place tonite, but all his comments toward the president were respectful, even though he didn't agree with all the speech. As a matter of fact, I didn't really see anybody in my channel surfing trash the prez, though I'm sure some did.


2) Posted by TexasPatriot8 to TigersEye
On News/Activism 05/15/2006 11:37:22 PM EDT · 264 of 267


Then Tancredo must have changed his tune or something. I heard some initial comments and he seemed to react favorably to it. Oh well. You can't expect everything all at once. That's not how the world works. This speach Bush gave is far and away better than his position the past six years on the border. I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise.


3) Posted by TexasPatriot8 to HHKrepublican_2
On News/Activism 05/15/2006 10:34:41 PM EDT · 2,049 of 2,437


I agree. This is like the juvie FR board or something. Bush practically knocked me down tonight saying all the things that me and most conservatives have been wanting for years when it comes to the borders and illegals. I bet Limbaugh and Hannity are all over this speach tomorrow saying how "it's about time!". Tancredo liked it a LOT and really supported Bush on this speach, and given the fact that he co-founded the Minutemen that says it all. As much as Tancredo liked this speach, I think those here who oppose it and are ragging on Bush for this speech really need to grow up and think about it. Tancredo likes the speach! That says it all.

4) To: steel_resolve
I don't know about that. Lou Dobbs liked the speech. You had that line ready no matter what the outcome

46 posted on 05/15/2006 8:34:37 PM EDT by slowhand520

There were others but there's only so much looking through thousands of posts I'm willing to do.

I'll judge for myself tomorrow.


2,454 posted on 05/15/2006 8:46:15 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Phsstpok

Oh, sorry you got so sick! Glad you're feeling better. Sounds like you may have had a fun time tonight. Talk to you soon - -take care and have a safe trip back!


2,455 posted on 05/15/2006 8:46:20 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: A.Hun

Thanks! You too!


2,456 posted on 05/15/2006 8:46:51 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I only found out yesterday when Miss Marple explained it to me -- seems those of us who signed up in 2004 are suspect because someone called Moby was telling fans to sign on to the Free Respublic (and basically cause trouble).. it was all part of the '04 election fiasco.

Well I'll be damned. So that's what it is that has their noses so out of joint concerning '04 sign-ups.

2,457 posted on 05/15/2006 8:46:56 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Causing division in a family or a church or a political party or movement on account of a disagreement on one issue is acceptable only in the rarest of circumstances.

Then blame the ones responsible, the GOP leadership.

2,458 posted on 05/15/2006 8:46:57 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: xzins
Nice Post. I glad you posted that on three accounts. (1) Its great to be reminded that if we can have a Chrisitian influence and participation on our laws dealing with abortion, euthanasia, stem cell research, Obscenity, etc etc, then we are certainly called to have Christ in our immigration laws. Every time I try to approach this subject All I get is "render unto Caesar what is Caesars" to which to be honest is not the most compelling biblical argument to me. (2) That your either an Evangelical or from the reformed tradition I am guessing and it nice to have that relgious perspective on this issue here. For goodness sakes one of the biggest leaders in the Southern Baptist Church came out for a Senate like bill and not a word is posted or talked about it. Its seems the only Christian voice on TV is Cardinal Mahoney. I know that many Evanglicals and people of faith agree with the President but they are never quoted are on TV Whats up with that? I know they would be on news shows if they were invited.(3) That you note the President's Christianity is showing through. People think the darndest things about this Prez. They have failed to recognize what many know. His faith is not an act. He sees this question in moral terms too. I truly believe that Bush knows he is dealing with people that have dignity because they are made in the image of the creature.
2,459 posted on 05/15/2006 8:47:00 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (Proud supporter of Pres. Bush and the Gop-- with no caveats, qualifiers, or bitc*en)
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To: Richard Kimball

This isn't so hard to figure out. It's taxpayers vs the freeloaders.


2,460 posted on 05/15/2006 8:47:02 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Not a part of virtual reality)
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