Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617
Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.
Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim
Isn't it funny the only actor we have had for a President didn't act and all the others have?
bttt
---Here on FR, you see the BorderBots howling like boiled cats, and it's entirely sincere. A certain number of them will sit out this election, or vote for third parties---
Yes, and the off year election is the time to send a message. I'll probably vote locally for Republicans and nationally for a third party. There's still time for the Republicans to repair the damage before 2008 and if they're handed a big enough rebuke in 2006 perhaps they will.
I understood they get in the back of the line of those already in the US but not those who are waiting for legalization in other countries.
I never stop thanking the Lord for this President.
My son served four years in the Army during X42 and I assure you, the men and women in the armed forces RESPECT this President.
I must say as a conservative that I will not vote for any senator who signs on for this amnesty. The House has it right and will get my vote for those of you who say the senate and the house will be lost you should realize this will not happen the senate maybe but the house will be safe.
Thereby no impeachment will happen that is the houses job.
How do you "zero all foreign workers?" We have one million LEGAL immigrants coming in every year plus an H1B visa program currently capped at 65,000 per year. We also have other visa programs for investors. If we need more workers, we use legal ways to get the kinds of workers we need to operate the economy. Simple as that.
STANDING OVATION !
Just heard tonight that many boomers plan to work into their 70's and some have said into their 80's. I don't honestly think an illegal is capable of earning what most of us earned and pay as much into FICA... would probably take three or four (if they even declared and paid FICA) and when you look at the public services they consume I don't see a win-win here... we would be much better off to immigrate an educated populace, many of whom are wanting to come here and can't because of the sheer numbers pouring over the border.
Starwise
Couldn't agree with you more about the revulsion the picture you have posted evokes.
Nonetheless, if Pubbies want to blame folks for the result you are predicting, let them blame the president and the Rhino traitors, not the people who cannot stomach the wrong doers. Don't blame the victims.
Actually it's the toughest talk by a president in over 40 years.
Yet you think this is the moment every Mexican TeeVee watcher is loadin' up the truck and gassing up the mule.
Any "guest worker" program, once begun, will receive endless increases in the number of "guest worker passes", by the same greedy employers who want the programs to begin with.
It will morph in no time from 100s of thousands to tens of millions on no time, as the same people who want and approve of it now use whatever number of already approved guest workers as a measure of how well it is doing. (How well for employers.)
And what can be worse than 12 million illegal immigrants? 20 milllon "guest workers" who, with perpetual renewals become semi-permanent stateless workers who are almost never in their home nation and almost always in their "temprary nation", while never a citizen where their work and never involved in being a citizen "at home".
The world already has proven, disasterous examples of massive gues worker programs and in both the sending and receiving nations the countries are socially and politically dysfunctional - the Phillipines, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Dubai and many others.
A massive guest worker program is a time bomb inside a trojan horse.
The latter - you can get real, too.
Welcome to FR. Stick to debate in a civil way and your arguments will serve you better.
Gee... you stole all my thunder.
Oh, B.S. He didn't put the words "final solution" in quotes! The only nazi here is you, you freakin' thought nazi!
Here is his comment in context:
"Then return when they can do so legally.
This is not the final solution (that is 100% effective) but if we can reduce the presence to 10%, we are millions ahead."
It is clear to anyone without an agenda that he meant that the proposed solution would not be as effective as a total deportation which would be 100% effective. You Dimocrat/RINO racebaiters pollute these threads by your presence.
It is strict and fair. It is ethical and logical.
The president's Christianity is showing:
Michelle Malkin is not for "shooting illegals" or "rounding them up" as the blog says. Therefore, it seems highly suspect.
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