1 posted on
05/12/2006 3:10:41 AM PDT by
SUSSA
To: SUSSA
somebody has an old spy vs spy cartoon somewhere :)
2 posted on
05/12/2006 3:12:21 AM PDT by
kinoxi
To: SUSSA
Die of boredom?
"How are you?"
"Fine"
"And how are you?"
"Fine."
"How's Cynthia?"
"Good."
"And the boys?"
"Fine."
"Did you have a nice weekend?"
"Yes."
"Did you do anything?"
"No."
3 posted on
05/12/2006 3:32:59 AM PDT by
OpusatFR
To: SUSSA
And, if Hell freezes over this summer, then it must be global warming.
Do these people have NOTHING better to do than write BS articles that speculate what the NSA might be doing with all of those phone records?
Isn't there something better going on than this? If this is the best they have today, why not dredge up more Abu Ghraib nonsense?
4 posted on
05/12/2006 3:34:22 AM PDT by
DustyMoment
(FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
To: SUSSA
I don't like the idea of the govt prying deeper into my privacy. Better them than some Saudi terrorist though.
Here's yet another officially classified program ratted out by a traitor. Someone better go to jail.
To: SUSSA
Correct me if I am wrong, but since the phone companies are private companies, they are free to do what they want with the records. (Example: My credit card company allowed me to "opt out" of sharing my information with others, instead of allowing them to be sold to third parties)
They can also refuse to cooperate, like Quest Communications did.
Where is the illegality here?
9 posted on
05/12/2006 3:46:44 AM PDT by
RangerM
To: SUSSA; All
This, from the blogosphere:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/
NSA Accused of Protecting U.S. From Terrorists
Liberals are jumping up and down about USA Today's publication of another leak relating to the National Security Agency. Michelle Malkin has a good roundup of reaction to the story. I'd add just a few comments...it's interesting to juxtapose the NSA stories--this one plus the Agency's international terrorist surveillance program--with this account of a report earlier today by Britain's Intelligence and Security Committee on the subway bombings in London last July: link: 252 comments
I received the following from a retired spook;
I am SO SICK of hearing about the NSA!! I worked for the NSA for 20 years as a Naval Cryptologist (1981-2001), and I worked at NSA for over 3 years! It used to be a super secret agency that no one really knew anything about, and let me tell you - the intell gathered helped keep this country safe FOR DECADES!
The thing that killed us was what Clinton did! Not being able to share info with the other agencies..
Now, the f#ckin liberals would rather put us all into GRAVE DANGER because they hate Bush, than keep America's secrets - SECRET. Like an idiot friend said, "why is the govt keeping 9-11 tapes secret?" I told him - because we don't want the f#ckin terrorists to know what we know! (about them, their methods, lingo, etc) - but the asshole thinks the gov't is doing it to keep Americans in the dark. What a d!ck!
For my 20 years, NSA was on the up-and-up and we don't / didn't listen to American's comms! We collected data against enemy targets!!!! The enemy is out there and we used to be able to listen to his sh!t, but the libs are ruining it - for political reasons - the A$$HOLES!
Like I said, I'm so mad - the liberals keep giving the enemy our intelligence, that took forever to get, I'm just so mad. SECRET.
Spoken like a true sailor (which I love) and a true America (which I adore and respect.) Thank you soldier.
More bad news for Americans from Stop the ACLU here;
In an attempt to rekindle the scaremongering of the paranoid left, USA today has taken upon itself to "declassify" more classified information about programs aimed at protecting us. Obviously they decided that there wasn't already enough damage done to national security.
The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.
The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans — most of whom aren't suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations. But the spy agency is using the data to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity, sources said in separate interviews.
"It's the largest database ever assembled in the world," said one person, who, like the others who agreed to talk about the NSA's activities, declined to be identified by name or affiliation. The agency's goal is "to create a database of every call ever made" within the nation's borders, this person added.
You must read it all. Jay explains;
It isn't secret anymore, now is it? If you read the entire thing you could easily be left with the impression that the government has gathered all kinds of personal information on you, studied your calling habits, etc. These phone companies went along with the government's request for phone records. These are records that the phone companies keep anyway, that are often called upon in court cases. No one has been listening in on domestic phone calls, they are only collecting a database of what numbers called other numbers.
Since Quest is the only company that refused to work with the government on the matter without a FISA warrant, we should be seeing a mass flocking of the paranoid left over to this company. That might not be such a good idea however. This leak may have just tipped some terrorist to exactly what communications in America are more vulnerable.
16 posted on
05/12/2006 3:52:08 AM PDT by
backhoe
(A Nuke for every Kook- what Clinton "legacy...")
To: SUSSA
19 posted on
05/12/2006 3:57:26 AM PDT by
Peach
To: SUSSA
My instant reaction is to rebel against anyone prying into my privacy. It is intuitively supposed by me as a freedom issue. On the other hand, I recognize national security requires a comprehensive monitoring of the landscape. I am most distressed that conservatives are now placed in the awkward position of having to argue for government intervention into matters of information privacy.
28 posted on
05/12/2006 4:12:32 AM PDT by
spatso
To: SUSSA
30 posted on
05/12/2006 4:17:35 AM PDT by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: SUSSA
Have you ever asked yourself "why do we worry about loss of our privacy and freedoms after we have already lost them?"
This pales in comparison with the absolute loss of privacy and freedom when it comes to the IRS and Social Security Administration. As a matter of fact, whth the IRS you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. And even after that, you will not be compensated for the costs and trouble caused you while defending yourself.
Believe it or not, the IRS spies on "suspects" in many more intrusive means and has the power to destroy you financially and mentally at their whim.
No one seems to address this breach of privacy and freedom.
32 posted on
05/12/2006 4:25:49 AM PDT by
DH
(The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
To: SUSSA
Maybe we could use them to track down all the illegals, and then send black helicopters into their neighborhood to pick them up. Whisk them off to our top secret SPECTRE, I mean NSA (wink) bio-implant facility to implant special chips in their brain. Then send them back to Mexico. And when the our diabolical leader President Bush sends the electronic signal, they will overthrow the Mexican government, and Dick Cheny will take over for Vicente Fox, and all that oil will be ours, ours, ours! Yes, President Bush, taking over the world one oil rich country at a time.
To: SUSSA
I don't like the idea of the government listening to any of my boring phone conversations.
I know, I know, if I'm not saying anything wrong, I shouldn't mind.
We all know that "if" the government can abuse information gathered, they "will" abuse information gathered.
To: SUSSA
I'd rather someone collect my phone number than my grandchildren's bodies... Very small price to pay.
To: SUSSA
(Referring to the Article)
Paranoid idiot alert.
54 posted on
05/12/2006 5:10:08 AM PDT by
verity
(The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
To: SUSSA
You know some people are just plain stupid. Today they think it is a good idea that the government be able to manipulate and message this data without any Court oversight. I can't wait to hear their reaction when Hillary sets out the profiles that she wants to be monitored.
58 posted on
05/12/2006 5:16:16 AM PDT by
spatso
To: SUSSA
The individuals who have the most to fear from surveillance and compilation of phone record data are:
- terrorists
- leftists
- liberals
- Democrats
They are all shrieking because they must not let their own disloyal behavior be exposed.
62 posted on
05/12/2006 5:47:25 AM PDT by
mkjessup
(The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
To: SUSSA
Other than the contestants on Jay Leno's Jay Walking segment, I venture to say that members of Congress seem to be the least informed citizens in the United States.
Can people who are so ill informed really be capable of guiding our country? How incompetent must one be not to know about a program that has been in existence for years?
Young Man: Hey, my IQ is only 90 and I didn't graduate from school.
Adviser: Don't worry son, you can always run for Congress.
To: SUSSA; All
Face it, Gang. This is ALL we're going to hear about from the MSM 24/7 due to the nomination of Michael Hayden to the CIA Chief position. The MSM will continue to print this cr@p until Hayden is ridden out of town on a rail, or until he's appointed and then they'll move on to Bush Bash in another venue.
Nevermind the FACT that there have been FIVE other military men appointed to head the CIA through the years. The MSM is so absolutely transparent. *Rolleyes*
70 posted on
05/12/2006 6:14:40 AM PDT by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: SUSSA
75 posted on
05/12/2006 6:25:21 AM PDT by
Unicorn
(Too many wimps around.)
To: SUSSA
Since state governments have been selling drivers license lists to marketers (to raise money and save on taxes), perhaps the Feds could sell some raw (or mined) data to telemarketers. Phone numbers (and mailing addresses and e-mail addresses) of people who call Home Depot or Lowes could be sold as a group. Divorce lawyers could do traffic analysis to see if someone is calling the girlfriend (boyfriend respectively) from the office. There's a gold (and data) mine here.
79 posted on
05/12/2006 6:36:21 AM PDT by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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