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Under Clinton, NY Times called surveillance “a necessity.”
American Thinker ^ | 1/12/06 | William Tate

Posted on 01/12/2006 10:02:51 AM PST by wm_tate

FULL TEXT OF ARTICLE. Under Clinton, the New York Times called pervasive domestic intelligence, "a necessity."

The controversy following revelations that U.S. intelligence agencies have monitored suspected terrorist related communications since 9/11 reflects a severe case of selective amnesia by the New York Times and other media opponents of President Bush. They certainly didn’t show the same outrage when a much more invasive and indiscriminate domestic surveillance program came to light during the Clinton administration in the 1990's. At that time, the Times called the surveillance “a necessity.”

“If you made a phone call today or sent an e-mail to a friend, there's a good chance what you said or wrote was captured and screened by the country's largest intelligence agency.” -Steve Kroft, CBS’ 60 Minutes

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: media; newyorktimes; spying

1 posted on 01/12/2006 10:02:53 AM PST by wm_tate
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To: wm_tate
Well of course it was OK, they were surveilling conservatives. Wonder when we get the Barret report to see what the IRS was doing.
2 posted on 01/12/2006 10:05:22 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: wm_tate

The libs always rely on faulty memories or more like selective amnesia of past statements, positions or events.

This whole hoopla over "wiretaps" is nothing but a lib manufactured news story and "scandal".


3 posted on 01/12/2006 10:06:59 AM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: wm_tate

The link is incorrect


4 posted on 01/12/2006 10:08:55 AM PST by GianniV
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To: wm_tate

"At that time, the Times called the surveillance “a necessity."

Clinton and the NYT considered Rush Limbaugh and the Heritage Institute the 'terrorists' that must be watched. What truly does scare me about Presidential wire taps is that Clinton used every service at his disposal to watch and collect intelligence on his political enemies in the US, and the MSM refused not only to criticize it, but wouldn't even report it honsetly. Another case of the 'watchdog' press being a Democrats lap dog.


5 posted on 01/12/2006 10:09:26 AM PST by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: wm_tate

Rush has been discussing this in the past few minutes.


6 posted on 01/12/2006 10:25:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The NY Slimes has been committing treason and sedition for decades.)
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To: Grampa Dave
And I'd like to see a complete list of the people/groups that Toon surveilled. Bet it would make interesting reading.
7 posted on 01/12/2006 10:25:58 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: GianniV

You're right. I reposted in a separate thread, but here it is.

http://americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5150

The other link was for one of the resources used in the article. Sorry for the inconvenience!


8 posted on 01/12/2006 10:34:52 AM PST by wm_tate
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To: mewzilla

A safe bet of those under the Toon's surveilance would probaly be Republicans who were assaulted by the IRS during the toon years. Bogus charges like making too much profit in their professional corporations.


9 posted on 01/12/2006 10:35:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The NY Slimes has been committing treason and sedition for decades.)
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To: wm_tate

This is why history will not be kind to the Clinton presidency. At best he will be judged as a mediocre president. His blunder was his belief that the greatest threat to America was a few fringe groups that may have been racist/separatist and hated certain elements of our government. If his Echelon program would have focused its attention where it should have been focused we could be that much further ahead in our fight against islamofascist terrorism.


10 posted on 01/12/2006 10:36:59 AM PST by GoldwaterCountry (Viva Reagan Revolucion!)
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To: Huck

Use the link in post #8.

Clinton's was domestic spying, Bush's has 1 end of the conversation from overseas.

Clinton&Co was also selling the info to political donors for use against political opponents.

Who was taping Gingrich again?


11 posted on 01/12/2006 10:41:58 AM PST by eyespysomething (Let's agree to respect each other's views, no matter how wrong yours might be.)
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To: wm_tate
"Echelon was, or is (its existence has been under-reported in the American media)...."

You mean...we have a conspiracy theory?

12 posted on 01/12/2006 10:59:57 AM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: wm_tate

You're not supposed to remember this.


13 posted on 01/12/2006 11:06:56 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: wm_tate
Under Clinton, NY Times called surveillance “a necessity.”

Not only do they adamantly oppose it now, most lamestream media don't even call it "surveillance.' They refer to it as "spying," which sounds a bit more evil.

14 posted on 01/12/2006 11:13:36 AM PST by Living Free in NH
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Doesn't Sam Fisher work for Third Echelon?


15 posted on 01/12/2006 11:14:38 AM PST by Havok (I like meat, guns, and comic books. Am I a bad conservative?)
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To: Living Free in NH
Not only do they adamantly oppose it now, most lamestream media don't even call it "surveillance.' They refer to it as "spying," which sounds a bit more evil.

Actually, there is a bit of a difference. Surveillance is more general, the way Echelon was (or is). Spying targets someone or something more specifically, with an objective in mind.

Personally I consider domestic surveillance, on balance, to be more sinister than domestic spying.

16 posted on 01/12/2006 3:20:05 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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