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I'm more upset with Conservatives than I am with George W. Bush

Posted on 05/08/2006 7:04:26 PM PDT by mwfsu84

If I had told you on 9/11/2001 that we'd go four and half years and counting without another terrorist attack on US soil, would you have believed me?

If I had told you that US-led forces would secure Afghanistan in just a few months...something the Soviets couldn't accomplish in ten years...would you have thought I was crazy?

If I had told you that Saddam was gone, that Khadaffy had renounced terrorism, and that Iraq was on the verge of becoming the second democracy in the Middle East, would have thought I was on medication?

Sometimes in our disappointment of this administration, we often forget some of the positives. The economy is strong. More Americans are homeowners. With tax cuts, we're spending less time working for Uncle Sam.

And if you take those benefits for granted, just imagine how much different things would be under a President Al Gore.

So if the president's stance on immigration and spending upset you - and they do upset me - what are you going to do about it? Stay at home? Nothing could be worse for conservativism. Your non-support will usher in more immigrants, higher taxes, and weaker national security.

If the GOP loses Congress, George W. Bush will be removed from office. Nothing would embolden terrorists more. How can we be counted on to wage an effective war when we can't even decide who our enemy is?

George W. Bush isn't the enemy. But that's exactly the message conservatives will send to the world if they stay at home this November.

If you're upset with W. on immigration - write him, write a Republican Congressman, let him know how you feel. It was conservatives who got Bush to change his mind on Harriet Meirs.

I promise you, a Democratic Congress won't be nearly as responsive to your needs.


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KEYWORDS: notaweinerbot; notstuckonstupid; patronizing; reaganhaters
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To: spectre
Now, we're stooping to intimidation? I don't think that's wise.

Nope the gloves are just off. Ya'll have had free reign for the last 6 months and it is past time you get some of it back. The fact that 15% of this site actually prefer that democrats win in 2006 is the most sickening example of betrayal I have ever witnessed. No not betrayal of the GOP, betrayal of the men and women dying daily in the WOT. Letting the democrats control congress in these times without every conservative vote to stop them is nothing less than treason.

281 posted on 05/08/2006 8:21:15 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: mwfsu84
I'm with you. The problem is with the Senate...not GWB. Even if he is wrong on immigration/borders, and I believe he is wrong, a strong Senate leader and an ounce of courage among the members would over rule the President.

What galls me in general, and I'm sure it's no different here, is that typically only 25-30% of registered voters show up at primaries. This is where change occurs...if you don't like what's going on, then vote against the incumbent and work hard for their victory.

But noooooooooo.......70% stay home on primary day...probably including all the whiners.

It will be a sad day next January if Nancy Pelosi takes the gavel...very sad.

282 posted on 05/08/2006 8:21:21 PM PDT by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: frankiep
Here's a novel idea. Instead of voting based on fear, how about voting based on who you think will do the best job?

I couldn't agree with you more. However, I don't think Hillary will do the best job. And yes I will vote on fear. I fear communism and losing the war on terror. Therefore, I will vote any way I have to in order to defeat them.

283 posted on 05/08/2006 8:22:01 PM PDT by KurtZ
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To: rcrngroup

**Just for once it would be nice to see Bush & the Repub Party come out swinging in favor of convervative policies & views**

Eh...you mean like tax cuts? The ban on partial birth abortion? Fighting terrorism? The 2 new Supreme Court justices? I could continue if you're really that ignorant on the idea that there's more than one thing involved in conservative policies and views.


284 posted on 05/08/2006 8:22:07 PM PDT by ilovew (Democrat enablers are not conservatives.)
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To: MarDav

"I don't spend much on a new wardrobe. But, if I own a shirt that will never come clean in the wash, I don't go wearing it anymore. I throw it out. Haven't you done the same?"


You win the Dumb Analogy Award.


285 posted on 05/08/2006 8:22:26 PM PDT by HighWheeler (The liberal dinosaurs bellow defiantly while sinking deeper into the swamp.......)
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To: ilovew

Getting rid of a select few will not do the job. See, the problem isn't them. It's the people who buy them once they get in office. If you send your guy to Washington, and he's a marvelous candidate, says and believes all the right things. That's great. Then the Money moves in and starts to work on him. He becomes beholden to that money because, well, they are going to continue to back him, get him into the Party, move him up, groom him. In time, your man becomes their man. Isn't that what's going on? Aren't we seeing a Republican Party that has pretty much failed to deliver for the past few cycles. Haven't they shown an unwillingness to enter into certain frays. Why is that? What are they afraid of? More importantly, what happened to what they said they believed in? I think they've been bought (off). I think they've gotten a whiff of power, influence, perks and it's given them the bug. I don't really see it changing. Sure there are a few that seem to stay apart from it. But what effect are those few against so much CORRUPTION?
So, maybe the answer is "Yeah. Maybe we do need to throw away the whole wardrobe and do some serious shopping." As it stands now, can you really have any confidence in the person you send to Washington, given what we are seeing now? Can you really say you are in favor of the expansion of government that the current crop of REPUBLICANS have overseen? Can you really believe that having watched them drag their feet on immigration they are going to do anything other than to cook up some sham of a plan that will involve more waste, and achieve limited results at best?
I just can't be sure. I've been watching them and they don't impress me.


286 posted on 05/08/2006 8:22:30 PM PDT by MarDav
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To: rcrngroup
As I said, you and those like you are the ones playing out of the DU playbook. You should at least have the intellectual honesty to admit it.
287 posted on 05/08/2006 8:22:45 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: packrat35
You don't have to support democrats or commies - and I didn't say you did - but the result is the same, isn't it?

Gee, we can have increased taxes, socialized medicine and a repeat of Cambodia in Iraq? Dadgummit, you're right! I'll show the bastards and vote for GreenPeaceandFreedomConstituiton Party! That's going to really advance my values and principals!

288 posted on 05/08/2006 8:22:49 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: ilovew



Sweetie your the one who jumped in and posted to me. If you don't want to talk about immigration then I suggest you don't join a conversation about it.


289 posted on 05/08/2006 8:22:56 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Chunga
Not a fan of President Nixon, huh?

No, I am not. Mainly because of wage and price controls.

290 posted on 05/08/2006 8:23:10 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Free Brett Kavanaugh already!!!!)
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To: PISANO
won't get through to the nattering nabobs of negativism that are growing ever more prevalent on FR.

The rest of us are still here. We're just quiet because we've decided there is no point in using all our energy on them. I'd rather use my energy to make sure things are BETTER after the next election.

Not only that, I've decided that perhaps this site will goad our opposition into overconfidence. Frankly, it seems to be working.

291 posted on 05/08/2006 8:23:30 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: rcrngroup

Bush came out swinging for SS reform, only for it to be bottled up by the scared twits in Congress (R & D).

Bush came out swinging when he unilaterally disavowed the ABM treaty with Russia, the Intern. Criminal Court, Kyoto, and gave the UN the big finger when he invaded Iraq.

Bush came out swinging with support for the partial birth abortion ban, his continued insistence on missile defense, his refusal to give an inch to the dems and euroweenies in Iraq.

Bush came out swinging to put John Roberts as chief justice.

He came out swinging to make the tax cuts permanent, which he will.


292 posted on 05/08/2006 8:24:04 PM PDT by pissant
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To: rcrngroup
It doesn't make any difference! Every position or view that he takes is straight out of the DemonRATS playbook. Anti-Christian, anti-conservative, pro-illegal aliens, anti-American patriots, advocate of RINO's & liberals & left-wingers.

You're doing it again.

You say I'm anti-Christian because I'm Roman Catholic and pro-life.

You say I'm anti-conservative because I don't believe in throwing out those who agree with 70% of what I believe.

You say I'm pro-illegal aliens, though I'm not, and have said so.

The rest of your post is noise, just as is most of what you post, most of the time.

293 posted on 05/08/2006 8:24:10 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: Conservative Goddess
Oh yeah. That approach worked real well with Pat Toomey...GWB and Rick Santorum saved Arlen Specter from certain defeat in the primary.

Specter has been instrumentally supportive of Dubya's judges, probably in response to Dubya's support of him, so Pat's candidacy was not wasted.

Toomey, btw, has come out strong in support of Rick Santorum.

294 posted on 05/08/2006 8:24:25 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: HighWheeler

Not my analogy. Just working with what was given to me. But thanks for the input...or...not


295 posted on 05/08/2006 8:25:01 PM PDT by MarDav
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To: sinkspur

Sinspur -- I've seen the pattern too. Exactly as you've described it. For quite a while.


296 posted on 05/08/2006 8:25:03 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Revolting cat!
we're dumbies!

Well you said it.

297 posted on 05/08/2006 8:25:26 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: SouthernFreebird
Repeating my 288...

Gee, we can have increased taxes, socialized medicine and a repeat of Cambodia in Iraq? Dadgummit, you're right! I'll show the bastards and vote for GreenPeaceandFreedomConstituiton Party! That's going to really advance my values and principals!

298 posted on 05/08/2006 8:26:09 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: Tyr
When kids do not act the way you wish them to one doesn't reward them. One punishes them.

That's true...but you do not turn them over to a new set of parents who are proven child molesters. And that is the equivalent of changing congressional leadership next year in the midst of a war.

Punish..yes. But keep it in the family. Vote in your primaries against incumbent (R) Senators in particular.

299 posted on 05/08/2006 8:26:14 PM PDT by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: NewLand
It will be a sad day next January if Nancy Pelosi takes the gavel...very sad.

OTOH, think of how the prospects for Republicans in 2008 and far beyond could be vastly improved if the American people had a taste of a 'rat dominated house run by Pelosi for 2 years.

300 posted on 05/08/2006 8:26:21 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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