Posted on 05/08/2006 4:06:47 PM PDT by skandalon
She says she considered quitting her role as campaign adviser over the issue of gay marriage, but Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter Mary Cheney tells ABC News "Primetime" anchor Diane Sawyer her sexuality has never created problems within her family.
Mary Cheney discussed the campaign, her feelings about President Bush, life with her partner of 14 years, and what it was like to come out as gay to her parents.
"I struggled with my decision to stay on the 2004 campaign," Cheney told "Primetime." Her personal challenge came when President Bush said the nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
The child hasn't reached the age of consent.
"who gets to set the age of consent in a liberal-tarian utopia anyway?"
Freddie the authoritarian clown.
" Furthermore, the attitude you're espousing is directly from the 1960s. "
Nah.
"Thomas Jefferson, as governor of Virginia, signed a bill that made castration the punishment for sodomy."
As I recall, he cheated on his wife too.
"I wonder what he--often claimed to be the most libertarian of the Founding Fathers--would have made of your statement: "There's no justification whatsoever to interfere in private consensual matters." "
You're attempting to use beings to justify things. Try logic.
"Funny, we've got a situation in this country now where I can't in good conscience send my children to public schools for fear that they will have homosexual immorality imposed upon them."
The schools fail to teach basic logic and you're worried about fairies.
You can drop the word imposed, because they don't impose anything.
What's thepoint in even educating your kid, if he can't handle the concepts on his own? I don't see the point to schools anymore. The govm't dictates stds, and rules for everything now. Everything! They soon be telling folks what they can and can't eat. I don't see the point to education anymore. Folks don't need to think. The govm't will do that for them.
"The lesson seems to be, if you're not willing to stand up for morality, you will be forced to accept immorality."
No one forces me to do anything.
"Any moral system absent the revelation of Almighty God is utterly worthless."
I've discussed the matter with God. He disagrees with you.
Let's say that everyone has free will and that free will means exactly what it says - everyone has the "right" to choose their own thoughts, feelings, actions, decisions, beliefs etc. And that they are responsible for their choices.
Btw, you never answered: do you claim to be without sin?
Read them again. Start with Deuteronomy 1:1-4 and then on to the actual statement made by God through Moses.
I always start by going to God Himself, Jesus, to learn about Him. Then when I read something else, I have the real thing for a reference from which to judge. You have no reference, so anything goes and it has no counterpart in reality.
What is an "expectation of fundamental respect"?
I do not agree with your definition of rights. Just looking at Merriam-Webster:
Right – something (as a power or privilege) to which one has a just or lawful claim
From dictionary.com:
a. • Something that is due to a person or governmental body by law, tradition, or nature.
b. Something, especially humane treatment, claimed to be due to animals by moral principle.
c. • A just or legal claim or title.
It seems to me that you want to order the world based on some kind of theocracy - but that is not where you have chosen to live. You are living in a democracy and in a constitutional republic which allows people of all creeds and no creeds equal rights. What that means is that regardless of what you believe (no matter how sure you are you have found the ultimate and only truth) others have the "right" to disagree with you and to take actions that you do not approve of, as long as they are lawful.
People have the "right" to sin against what you believe to be God's law. Now you may believe that God will strike them dead - but it doesn't take away their "right" to do it. Just as you have the "right" to spew out all the bigotry and prejudice you care to and no matter how much I may not like - you have the "right" to do it - at least here - at least for now.
Btw, you are the first person I have ever come across to claim to be without sin. I certainly have yet to experience your perfection(g). Forgive me for doubting you.
So, it's like a Harley.
Baptism and confession can do miraculous things. Don't be so amazed.
That may be - but in time a human being is a human being - they sin.I have yet to meet a perfect person.
“... function
Is smother'd in surmise, and nothing is
But what is not.”
‘Who is he that is not of woman borne?’
‘Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets her hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.’
‘Who is she that is not of woman borne?’
The First Amendment does not give you the right to do as you please and hide behind a sanctified excuse!
No man may become a law unto himself under the guise of freedom in religion!
The First Amendment is about speech and thought, not actions... For the THIRD TIME...
“Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices...”[Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145, 8 Otto 145, 24 L. Ed. 244 (1878).]
The 1st Amend forbids govm't interference in certain specified actions. Pretty colors Dashwood. Are coming out of the closet soon?
‘Come you spirits
That tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here,
And fill me, from the crown to the toe, top-full
Of direst cruelty! make thick my blood,
Stop up the access and passage to remorse,
That no compunctious visitings of nature
Shake my fell purpose, nor keep peace between
The effect and it! Come to my woman's breasts,
And take my milk for gall, you murdering ministers,
Wherever in your sightless substances
You wait on nature's mischief! Come thick of night,
And pall thee in the dunnest smoke of hell,
That my keen knife see not the wound it makes,
Nor heaven peep through the blanket of the dark,
To cry Hold, hold!’
“Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices...”
[Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145, 8 Otto 145, 24 L. Ed. 244 (1878).]
See also:
Late Corporation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints v. United States, 136 U.S. 1, 10 S.Ct. 792, 34 L. Ed. 478 (1890). Revised as 140 U.S. 665, 11 S.Ct. 884, 35 L. Ed. 592 (1891).
Who is he that is not of woman borne?’
Scottish play.
I read those. They're full of it. If the practices violate rights, as in say human sacrifice, then they have a point. As it is, they have no grounds, or justification whatsoever to do what they did. That's not just on theoretical grounds, but on legal grounds also. The 1st Amend is in plain English and it seems govm't bozos from these clowns to Bush can't read and they refuse to follow the law.
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