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Bonds Likes His Numbers Better Than Babe Ruth
BREITBART.com ^ | May 08, 2006 | AFP

Posted on 05/08/2006 1:59:10 PM PDT by PerConPat

Bonds likes his numbers better than Babe Ruth May 08 10:53 AM US/Eastern.

A boastful Barry Bonds said if he passes Babe Ruth that his place in history would be secure.

Asked if he would consider himself better than Ruth if he vaults ahead of the New York Yankees legend for second place on the all-time home run list, Bonds said: "I don't know yet, but the numbers speak for themselves."

The embattled Bonds moved within one home run of Ruth for the No 2 spot, but it was in a losing cause as San Francisco lost 9-5 to Philadelphia on Sunday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: asterisk; banhimnow; cheater; fraud; jerk; juice; roidtaintedrecord; steroids
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To: Vaquero
There must be a Hotdog-Steroid connection there somewhere.

Ruth's hotdogs probably didn't even have NITRATES in them!!! :-)

121 posted on 05/08/2006 2:58:10 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: SJSAMPLE

(Oops.) He's no Ford Frick, either. ;O)


122 posted on 05/08/2006 2:58:24 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: PerConPat
I remember back around 1958 a guy on TV asked Casey Stengel how Ty Cobb would do against the pitchers of that day.

Stengel said he would hit around 270. The announcer mentioned that wasn't very good. Stengel said, "you have to realize that Cobb is in his 70's .

123 posted on 05/08/2006 2:58:26 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Primetimedonna

I don't know why you continue to repeat the same ridiculous canards and DU arguments trying to defend an indefensible position. You're just embarassing yourself.


124 posted on 05/08/2006 2:58:27 PM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: FlipWilson

>>>Then again, Ruth did not play in the expansion era where the pitching has been greatly watered down.

I agree, though the rapid influx of Latin American players in the last three decdes has helped to limit some of that watering down.


125 posted on 05/08/2006 2:59:32 PM PDT by NC28203
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To: NC28203
I agree with your general statement about segregation, but I think you are missing my point. How much of an impact would black pitchers have had back in Ruth's day when they've never constituted much more than 1% of the pitchers in big-league baseball even after the color barrier was broken?

I believe Bob Gibson and Ferguson Jenkins (an anomaly of sorts because he wasn't even an American) are the only black pitchers from the post-segregation age in the Baseball Hall of Fame. Lee Smith is probably the only black pitcher out there today who is a legitimate Hall of Fame candidate.

126 posted on 05/08/2006 2:59:35 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Primetimedonna

You already gave the liberal talking points, so we already know what you are. Buh-bye.


127 posted on 05/08/2006 2:59:53 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: goodolemr

How did Babe Ruth benefit from it?


128 posted on 05/08/2006 3:00:27 PM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Apparently it's real.


129 posted on 05/08/2006 3:01:19 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Primetimedonna
Bonds may very well have used enhancers, but I'm sure he isn't alone.

"Enhancers"???! How euphemistic of you!!

130 posted on 05/08/2006 3:01:35 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Primetimedonna

Quote: "It doesn't mean that we looney left coasters you all like to demean admire him or put him on a pedastal. Maybe it just means we feel that a person who has never failed a league sanctioned drug test should not be treated as a pariah because the league shirked it's responsibility to set proper guidelines and get a tougher policy when the rest of the sports world did."

Yes, the league shirked its responsibilities. It did not test. Thus, how could Bonds have failed. But it is kind of like saying someone who steals from a store over and over was blameless because nobody every caught them or installed a security cam to check on them. The owner of the store is somewhat at fault, but the thief is still a thief nonetheless.

As for Bonds, he does not help himself as a little contrition would go a long way. Instead, he continues on his arrogance. I would not be shocked if he was still taking steroids. At any rate, he should look in the mirror to discover the true cause of his current predicament. He has been arrogant and disrespectful his ENTIRE career, to say the least. Now he is reaping his just deserts.

As for him being a poster boy, I believe that Jason Giambi got skewered last year for his ADMITTED usage of steroids and still gets booed wherever he goes this season as well. Funny, Giambi didn't scream racism or claim that he had never failed a drug test. He (sort of) apologized and then knew enough to shut the hell up and be humble.


131 posted on 05/08/2006 3:01:42 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Tallguy

Quote: " I remember many stories over the years about the ball changing."

And the height of the mound to the disadvantage of the pitcher.


132 posted on 05/08/2006 3:03:17 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Alberta's Child
If this whole black pitcher's argument held any water at all, then why didn't all the other hitters in Ruth's day hit 60 homers? Eh?

Oh, and by the way, can anyone please tell me how many homers the runner-up hit the year the Babe hit 59?

Babe Ruth DOMINATED his day and age. Barry Bonds doesn't even come close to anything like that. It's like counting Mariah Carey's number one hits and trying to say she has had as much impact as Elvis or the Beatles. Give me a break.

133 posted on 05/08/2006 3:03:52 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Alberta's Child

>>>How much of an impact would black pitchers have had back in Ruth's day when they've never constituted much more than 1% of the pitchers in big-league baseball even after the color barrier was broken?

Would dark skinned Latin Americans like Pedro Martinez or Jose Contraras been able to play back in the segregated days? Just asking, I don't know. But an inclusion of dark skinned Latins might bring those numbers up.


134 posted on 05/08/2006 3:04:27 PM PDT by NC28203
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To: goodolemr

Youbare assuming fact that cannot be placed into evidence.


135 posted on 05/08/2006 3:04:51 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: houeto

>>How many steroids ya reckon' Babe Ruth took?<<

He really worked with a handicap - all that over eating and three women a night - that should have been worth an extra home runs when we compare.


136 posted on 05/08/2006 3:04:51 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: FlipWilson

Ironically, Giambi's reaction may have been much different if he hadn't been playing for the Yankees. Despite their glorious past, bloated payroll, star-studded lineup and (often) self-aggrandizing owner, the Yankees these days try to have their players keep a low profile as much as possible.


137 posted on 05/08/2006 3:05:04 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Petronski

I was aware that Barry Bonds was a jerk long before reading Game of Shadows but I had no idea he was such a contemptible, racist, cheating, low-life he is. The text had my blood boiling.

138 posted on 05/08/2006 3:06:40 PM PDT by Beowulf
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To: Alberta's Child

Regardless of the motivation, if Bonds had taken an approach more similar to Giambi's, he may not have found himself in this predicament.


139 posted on 05/08/2006 3:09:26 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: PerConPat
Mom - Baseball - Apple Pie -

Where'd all the good people go?
140 posted on 05/08/2006 3:09:37 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep Lubbock Flat)
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