"Leave those alone steroid boy, I'll carry them myself!"
Babe had a GREAT golf game as well, check out that swing!
Posted on 05/08/2006 1:59:10 PM PDT by PerConPat
Bonds likes his numbers better than Babe Ruth May 08 10:53 AM US/Eastern.
A boastful Barry Bonds said if he passes Babe Ruth that his place in history would be secure.
Asked if he would consider himself better than Ruth if he vaults ahead of the New York Yankees legend for second place on the all-time home run list, Bonds said: "I don't know yet, but the numbers speak for themselves."
The embattled Bonds moved within one home run of Ruth for the No 2 spot, but it was in a losing cause as San Francisco lost 9-5 to Philadelphia on Sunday.
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Who knows, Ruth possibily would have also taken whatever if whatever was available at the time.
I never realized the 'unknown ingredients' in tube steaks were steroids! Maybe that's why, at 59, I have the body of a Greek God. Unfortunately, it's Dionysus.
Right. So when it comes to personal hitting performances, baseball's history segregation only affected personal statistics in relation to what other players from that time might have done, not with regard to a player's own statistics. Ruth probably would have hit about 714 home runs regardless of baseball's color barrier -- though someone else (a black player who wasn't allowed in big-league baseball) might have hit more home runs if he had been allowed to play.
I do, however, find it odd how people like to point out that Ruth's records are somehow illegitimate because he had played in a segregated era, and point to legends about Josh Gibson's home run exploits to make their case. And yet Gibson didn't face the best pitchers of his era, either.
Cheats....lies...really good for America's Pastime. As fans, we're not supposed to boo, but we do anyway when it's a lying cheat.
Bonds may very well have used enhancers ...
It's not a "maybe" thing. He did. He's denying he knew what he was taking, but that is a crock. Since he's pretending to be some sort of hero or role model, I hold him to a higher standard than "He never got caught red-handed."
"Leave those alone steroid boy, I'll carry them myself!"
Babe had a GREAT golf game as well, check out that swing!
Ruth's stats:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/ruthba01.shtml
Bond's stats:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/bondsba01.shtmL
Regardless, starting pitchers usually went ddep into a game in Ruths day. Not many mid-relievers and closers. the batter saw the same pitcher at least 3 or 4 times, and could gauge the pitches better than facing a new set-up man, then the closer.
Typical. You start losing, so you become a quitter. Why don't you start juicing like your hero, Bonds?
That's sort of like saying that Wayne Gretzky's NHL record of 92 goals in a single season is somehow tainted because there were no Mexican-American players in the NHL back in the 1980s. Well, OK -- that's true . . . but it's not like there are a ton of them in the NHL today, either!
Hope it was worth it for ya. Professional baseball is dead.
>>>Yeah Right. And if my Aunt had a penis she would be my Uncle.
So if we were to ban Latin Americans from MLB, you don't the batting statistics of the remaining players would improve?
Sorry, If Ruth had take 'roids, the record wouldn't have been 744, but 1744.
The difference is that Latin-Americans aren't necessarily much more or less likely to be playing any specific position or positions. There was a time when banning Latin Americans would have had almost no impact at any position except shortstop, but that's obviously changed over the years.
How many championships does Bonds have again? If he can just keep playing until he catched up with Ruth in that category.
Don't know if it is true but may well be as they only played 154 games plus Ruth started as a pitcher. He was a good one too.
Pure speculation. White pitchers couldn't have gotten Josh Gibson out?
Babe Ruth was not responsible for segregation but Barry Bonds was responsible for taking steroids and HGH.
Today, every pitch is thrown using a very clean ball. Balls generally get tossed out of the game after getting hit against a wall or even fouled into the dirt. This might sound inconsequential, but I would think this has had at least as much of an impact on the game of baseball over the years as the advent of night baseball has.
>>>The difference is that Latin-Americans aren't necessarily much more or less likely to be playing any specific position or positions. There was a time when banning Latin Americans would have had almost no impact at any position except shortstop, but that's obviously changed over the years.
But the overall talent pool drops because people are restricted. Isn't that the argument folks around here make about colleges setting quotas for admissions. Some less dersrving minority is taking the place of a deserving White, thus bringing the total pool down. Back in the days of segregated baseball, owners limiting the pool of available players likely offered pitching jobs to Whites that would have gone to Blacks if a free market were allowed to exist. The overall pitching talent pool was lower under segregation that it would have been under a free market. Hitters were the beneficiary.
Babe Ruth was not responsible for segragation, but he sure benifited from it.
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