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Current Poll - 13% of members will turn it over to the rats????

Posted on 05/06/2006 9:51:50 AM PDT by Sonora

Current poll:

"A time for choosing: It appears that a significant number of our members are so disgusted with the GOP's failure to secure our borders against illegal aliens that they are willing to risk all by voting them out of office, even if it means Pelosi, Reid, Hillary, et al, are allowed to take charge. Is this the best course of action or should we be working harder than ever to hold the line and actually try to make a difference by getting more constitutionally-minded conservatives elected? Are you willing to give it all up or are you more determined than ever to keep the Marxists out of power?" _____

So far, 13% of members and 18%+ of participants in this poll say - turn it over to the rats. What's with that? I cannot believe that 13% of those posting here are so stupid or angry with what is happening that they would turn to the rats for the way back to perfect. Now, 13% will result in a winning vote, in a lot of cases.

Anyway, I guess that there is no compromising for some people - just dig a hole and live there while the rats are in charge. I'm so disappointed.


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KEYWORDS: 13dummietrolls; beeber; bordertrolls; breakingnews; hugh; moosebitsister; openborderbots; pushpolls; savage; savagesux; series; singleissuevoters; stuned; weinerbots
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To: DarthVader
My suggestion to them is to take hemlock.

Nice. Real nice.

61 posted on 05/06/2006 10:19:50 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: moehoward
There ARE Conservatives members we could rally around....

Exactly. Let's not give up so easily. All is not lost. There are some "true conservatives" out there we can support.

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Samuel Adams

62 posted on 05/06/2006 10:19:53 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: Howlin
Just so you know, you're not alone.

By failing to secure our borders and enforce existing laws (both roles of the Executive), the current administration is facilitating the demise of our republic. What does it matter if the Democrats preside over a country that geographically used to be the US? The pioneering spirit that created our republic will be resurrected somewhere else, just like it always has throughout history.

63 posted on 05/06/2006 10:20:57 AM PDT by lemura
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To: Altair333
With all due respect to FreeRepublic, that is a push poll. I voted with the 13% party in protest because it was worded in such a way as to not be an objective poll.

Bingo.

64 posted on 05/06/2006 10:21:14 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sonora

I'd rather vote third party that supports my ideals. Think of it how you will, my vote is my voice and if I keep supporting dead-fish RINO's, the RNC will think that's what we all want and keep backing them.

I can no longer support aparty that does not do what is was set out to do. I am a conservative, not a repubublican.


65 posted on 05/06/2006 10:21:26 AM PDT by Toby06 (Make illegal immigration illegal!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
They might not deserve your vote, but the alternative is so bad I couldn't deal with it, myself.

Sometimes you have to take a step backwards before you can proceed.

66 posted on 05/06/2006 10:21:38 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: al_again
They are completely ineffective for removing an incumbent.

Well, not completely. We have knocked off incumbent RINOs in GOP primaries. It ain't easy, but it can be done.

Admitedly, the further up the food chain you go, the tougher it is.

At the federal level, the advantages that incumbents have voted themselves, and their natural access to big money, make them almost invulnerable.

But knocking off RINOs at the state legislative level is dang near like shooting fish in a barrel, if you have a good candidate, modest resources, and execute a good campaign plan.

67 posted on 05/06/2006 10:21:45 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: IronJack

Let's say the Republican Party had a platform that was exactly as you wanted it to be, and they could only get 35-40% of the electoral votes and lost every election that mattered?

Would you be content to remain forever on the outside looking in?

Or would you try to be a little more inclusive right up to the point of winning Presidential elections by the slimmest possible margins?

Or something else?


68 posted on 05/06/2006 10:21:58 AM PDT by RobFromGa (In decline, the Driveby Media is thrashing about like dinosaurs caught in the tar pits.)
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To: Sonora

The wording of the poll is ridiculous. Really childish & lame.


69 posted on 05/06/2006 10:22:30 AM PDT by Toby06 (Make illegal immigration illegal!)
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To: 1903A3
fire the most serious

I agree with you. I'll work to fire R's that voted for the Prescription Drug Benefit, supported McCain/Feingold, and voted for the latest pork laden highway bill. Unfortunately, by not supporting the most serious offenders, I'm not really left with many Republicans that I can support.

70 posted on 05/06/2006 10:23:02 AM PDT by al_again
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To: anyone

"....Now that I'm a Republican, I can see flaws in the party, but generally that is in the leadership--not the rank and file. The rank and file can change the leadership. Compare that to the Democrats: the rank and file and their leadership might as well be openly Marxist. ..."

WELL SAID!! R.D.!!

Thier "THINKING/PHILOSOPHY" will never change no matter WHO is "IN" there.

And that is OUR STRENGTH!!
But of course--someone like ..what's his name from Conn.??

JOE LIEBERMAN!!--if HE "Ran" as an idependent--or such--he could draw away ALOT of Middle-road, un-educated Rep.s--but he'd never get any backing anyhow--or get killed by the Clinton Hit-Squad!! Smear campaign pros!!

"IF" there was another ugly " Ross perot " incident--THAT could be bad!


71 posted on 05/06/2006 10:23:05 AM PDT by AirBorn
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To: Sonora
It appears that a significant number of our members are so disgusted with the GOP's failure to secure our borders against illegal aliens that they are willing to risk all by voting them out of office, even if it means Pelosi, Reid, Hillary, et al, are allowed to take charge.

How could we tell the difference? It's not the 13 or 18% FR members digging the hole. More accurately, it's the Republicans digging their own grave.

72 posted on 05/06/2006 10:23:21 AM PDT by lewislynn (Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking, conjecture and lies. (no it's not a mistake)
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To: moehoward
There ARE Conservatives members we could rally around, like Tancredo.

Absolutely, but the GOP seems more interested in holding Tom, back then in putting him forward. I don't see much of a connection between conservatisom and the present GOP; so it will have to be third party.
73 posted on 05/06/2006 10:23:26 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: jazusamo

Stating the obvious but overlooked:

100-13=87


74 posted on 05/06/2006 10:23:53 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: Sonora

It's one thing to take a poll and voice your anger, it's another to step into the voting booth and vote for a rat. My worry is all the people saying they want or will vote third party... to a lot of us, Ross Perot immediately comes to mind.... were it not that I think a new, conservative party would be wonderful and could pull at least 1/3 of the votes -- but, therein lies the rub -- if only 1/3 of the vote we could once again throw an election to a Clinton.


75 posted on 05/06/2006 10:24:18 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: redgirlinabluestate
There are some "true conservatives" out there we can support.

Indeed there are, especially for Congress.

There is a solid conservative majority in the House that are well worth supporting with our money, our time and our energy.

And they're up every two years.

76 posted on 05/06/2006 10:24:26 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: BW2221

Yeah, I didn't say I like the current state of affairs, just that I am not suicidal.


77 posted on 05/06/2006 10:24:39 AM PDT by JimSEA (America cannot have an exit strategy from the world.)
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To: Sonora

I'm pretty lucky that my representatives are dependably conservative, so they will almost certainly continue to get my vote. That is, unless they falter and go for some kind of pseudo-amnesty travesty similar to what the President seems to want. There's no way I'll vote for them after that. That kind of surrender will not be rewarded. I've seen my community go to Hell in just five-to-ten short years because of the invasion of illegals. There's no way on earth I'll grant my vote to a politician that continues to facilitate not only the lawlessness, but the very destruction of our country and its culture. Heck, what's the use of fighting Islamofascist nut-jobs wanting to destroy our country, when so many of our own politicians are tossing it in the garbage can themselves?


78 posted on 05/06/2006 10:25:02 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Mo1
so they think voting for liberals

I will never vote for a liberal, but I am not going to vote for people who damage our nation by not securing our borders and by running up the debt. Why should I participate in voting for the lesser of two evils? I know the old slower train wreck arguement, but I am fed up with Republicans who are warped by the power they have become part of. I don't particularly like libertarians, but if I do vote, I will vote for the conservate. If there isn't one, then I will skip that line.

79 posted on 05/06/2006 10:25:52 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Join FR Team 36120 at http://folding.stanford.edu {Protein Folding Project})
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To: DevSix
The ilk of the Democrat party cannot be allowed to hold a majority in any branch of Gov't

The US has had the luxury of not getting seriously damaged in WWI or WWII. While the rest of the modern world destroyed itself, the US could establish itself as the world's economic superpower. We don't have that luxury anymore. Democrats coming to power will possibly mean the end of the US as the best country in the world and barring another world war that excludes us, we may never recover.

In the old days, we could recover from the democrat idiots like Jimmy Carter, because we had a cushion to work with. We simply do not have room for errors anymore.

80 posted on 05/06/2006 10:25:53 AM PDT by staytrue
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