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Current Poll - 13% of members will turn it over to the rats????

Posted on 05/06/2006 9:51:50 AM PDT by Sonora

Current poll:

"A time for choosing: It appears that a significant number of our members are so disgusted with the GOP's failure to secure our borders against illegal aliens that they are willing to risk all by voting them out of office, even if it means Pelosi, Reid, Hillary, et al, are allowed to take charge. Is this the best course of action or should we be working harder than ever to hold the line and actually try to make a difference by getting more constitutionally-minded conservatives elected? Are you willing to give it all up or are you more determined than ever to keep the Marxists out of power?" _____

So far, 13% of members and 18%+ of participants in this poll say - turn it over to the rats. What's with that? I cannot believe that 13% of those posting here are so stupid or angry with what is happening that they would turn to the rats for the way back to perfect. Now, 13% will result in a winning vote, in a lot of cases.

Anyway, I guess that there is no compromising for some people - just dig a hole and live there while the rats are in charge. I'm so disappointed.


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To: al_again

Al who?


21 posted on 05/06/2006 10:03:54 AM PDT by 100American
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To: kjo
KJO my friend, it's not as if four years of a Dem pres would wake folks up, and we would then get a solid conservative that would win an election.

The Dems would work to ensure that we would NEVER win another election.

Think Justice Dept, CIA, court appointees, etc.

They don't really like dissent, and they have ways of going after it. (Imagine no F.R!)

As a practical matter in politics, you can expect only a fraction of what you really want. If you get too insistent on getting 100%, you get nothing.

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Tag Line Alpha

Democrats - - the party of blames, lies, accusations, and subversion. The once great party of Roosevelt now chooses Stalin.

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22 posted on 05/06/2006 10:04:02 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Sonora
I will have to hold my nose and vote for Mike Dewine here in Ohio. I voted for Perot in 1992 as a protest against GHWB... I learned my lesson.

The problem with Republican lawmakers is that they interpret low poll numbers as a need to be more like Democrats, rather than a need to be more Conservative.
23 posted on 05/06/2006 10:04:04 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Sonora
I may have my brain shut off when it comes to some issues and in the light of the next day I can realize when I've taken a wrong opinion.

But I can not deny in any manner or any next day our nation run again by Rats would be a disaster of the highest order.

Bottom line is we have to work harder to elect conservatives within the Republican party because giving it over to the Rats
would not fix any problems and would hasten the demise of this great nation.
24 posted on 05/06/2006 10:04:57 AM PDT by A message
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To: Sonora
See tagline. I will vote for a conservative Republican. I will not vote for a RINO--under any circumstances.

Case in point--I will not vote for Tom Kean Jr in NJ if he's the nominee for Senate. The man is a liberal and of my top three issues, he's on the other side. We don't need another Specter/Chafee/McCainiac in the Senate.

The RINOs in NJ have destroyed the party here and routinely sabotage conservative campaigns. Turn about is fair play, and in this case, it's an instance of short-term pain for long-term gain.
25 posted on 05/06/2006 10:06:01 AM PDT by Antoninus (I will not vote for a liberal, regardless of party.)
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To: COEXERJ145

The other are the self proclaimed "true conservatives" who want to see the Democrats in power in order to "show" the GOP and to impeach "BuSHIT". = morons who will hurt the country just for spite.

My suggestion to them is to take hemlock.


26 posted on 05/06/2006 10:06:18 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Sonora

It seems the majority of that 13% are so upset over the illegal alien thing they are willing to overlook the gains made by the Repubs. It's a real shame.


27 posted on 05/06/2006 10:06:28 AM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: Sonora

I won't vote for a Dem but I sure as heck won't vote for Rebub either. If either of them wanted my vote then they would do what we ask of them. Since they do as they damn well please I won't waste my gas getting to the polls.


28 posted on 05/06/2006 10:06:33 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: al_again

To make an omelet, first eggs must be broken, or something like that, nez pas?


30 posted on 05/06/2006 10:06:55 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Sonora

Their " Shame " is MY Shame.

Sad but true.

" It isn't the things that you DO...but rather the Things that you leave UN-DONE...that give you a bit of heart ache..at the setting of the sun."--Famous Poet--but I don't do autographs.

"WE" are the ones to Blame--if anyone. Right?

( No!..No..No! this is NOT like a Clavin & Hobbs Cop-out one liner!! " MOM! you should have KNOWN not to let me alone for even a minute!!"..)

But "WE" should have know to keep TRACK of not just WHO we have " Batter' UP!!" but WHO is NEXT ON DECK!!

"WE" do NOT HAVE a " Next on Deck " to use as leverage AND a Threatening Push to keep Those Conservatives who do go off the path in line!!!

And then again--maybe--just like the Romans--"WE" held our " REPRESENTATIVES " too Highly and left By Themsleves!---Because we alos Held our Own Ideals TOO HIGHLY !!

Thinking that the High IDEALS of :

--Protecting our SECURITY : ei.- Boarders, Illegal imm.

--STICKING UP for Our President during attacks!!-not
ever thinking Rep. Senators & House would care about
themsleves FIRST!!

---SAYING WHAT YOU MEAN!!--even IF it could mean being
Voted DOWN! Translated: Losing YOUR own Power & Prestige.

No--"WE" are to blame really--WE expected Too MUCH from them--and did not re-inforce in THEM the point that IF YOU STAND STRONG!! We WILL stand with you!!

MAYBE they "thought" too--like Elitist democrats--that they were AUTOMATICALLY going to get Voted in by proxy of no-one ELSE is running to challenge them!

But "WE" also never told them too--you CAN be FIRED!!--BUT--We WILL stand with YOU--IF you stand with the WHYS we voted you all in inthe first place.

( Except for those who " Changed Color " AFTER being voted in!! can YOU say, " TRAITOR!!" boys and girls!!)

DAB

p.s.--when was the last time I saw any of YOU at a PW rally in NYC? SAN DIEGO?? D.C.??


31 posted on 05/06/2006 10:07:05 AM PDT by AirBorn
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To: DevSix

Quit your whining. W and the Republicans have BECOME the Rats, they need to be voted out. How supportive of the military is it to let enemies into the very houses of their families due to NO ACTION on our border security?

You can call us spoiled brats, be we call you good little cattle.


32 posted on 05/06/2006 10:07:16 AM PDT by wvobiwan (I lose track, is Russia the enemy again? Plus terrorists, France, and Hollywood of course.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Trolls or fanatical purists willing to give up the Republic over a single issue.

You are kidding yourself if you think this is over a single issue. This over McCain/Feingold, Prescription Drug Benefit, Corruption, Exploding Growth of Federal Government, failure to enact Social Security reform, failure to enact tax-reform - in other words - complete abandonment of conservative principles.

Keep kidding yourself and thinking that the Republican party will start behaving responsibly - it's not going to happen unless they pay a severe price for their incompetence.

33 posted on 05/06/2006 10:07:22 AM PDT by al_again
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To: Sonora
How you really vote and what message you should be sending now are two different things. They want to lead by poll? Use polls to direct them by answering to get what you want. Politicians should live in trembling fear of losing votes. Telling them (via polls) that you are with them no matter what will accomplish...nothing.

The less often this is spelled out, the better.

34 posted on 05/06/2006 10:07:26 AM PDT by M203M4
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To: Sonora
There is no such thing as a "Republican" or "Democrat" way of thinking engraved in stone. FDR would have called the current crop of Democrats traitors and I would vote for a Zell Miller.

However, the great majority of voters will vote Republican or Democrat out of force of habit so voting for a third Party merely puts the unsplit party in the White House. That is how we ended up with Bill and Hillary Clinton in the White House.

It is foolish to throw out the Party "brand loyalty" that will automatically get you 70% of your voters on Election Day. If you do that, the Democrats will be handing out U.S. citizenship papers and Democrat Voter Registration Cards at the Rio Grande.

If the current crop of incumbents is failing miserably, the solution is not to leave the Republican Party but to thrown them out of Republican Party office.

Any Republican primary candidate that makes stopping illegal immigration a priority will do very well on Election Day and has an excellent chance of unseating the current Republican Congresscritter who is soft on the issue.

Don't leave the Republican Party.

CHANGE IT!

35 posted on 05/06/2006 10:08:05 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Altair333

I agree. I usually like these FR polls but this one had only 2 choices. I'm not much into either/ors or shame polls. I passed on it.


36 posted on 05/06/2006 10:08:08 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: rrrod
"Watching today Republicans cave in, whine and totally ignore the conservatives leads me to agree with you. If we don't get new blood in there the Rs will continue to sell us out!"

Agreed. If RINOs are not aborted, the GOP will continue to reproduce them. [I'm sure as RINOs they appreciate choice.]

37 posted on 05/06/2006 10:08:14 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Republicans are NOT a FAR better choice than the Democrats, only slightly better these days.

Not enough for me to excuse leaving our borders wide open.


38 posted on 05/06/2006 10:08:39 AM PDT by wvobiwan (I lose track, is Russia the enemy again? Plus terrorists, France, and Hollywood of course.)
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To: Mo1

Agree with you. The left will only be worse. We have to stand up WHILE the R's are in office, not throw tantrums at the end of their terms.


39 posted on 05/06/2006 10:09:00 AM PDT by Libertina
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To: Sonora
Anyway, I guess that there is no compromising for some people - just dig a hole and live there while the rats are in charge. I'm so disappointed.

If you want to see a change, vote a third party. There is not a dime's worth of difference between the Republicans and Democrats.

40 posted on 05/06/2006 10:09:05 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Illegal Aliens will take down the Democrats and Republicans and give rise to a new American party)
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