Current Poll - 13% of members will turn it over to the rats????

[Sonora]

Current poll:

"A time for choosing: It appears that a significant number of our members are so disgusted with the GOP's failure to secure our borders against illegal aliens that they are willing to risk all by voting them out of office, even if it means Pelosi, Reid, Hillary, et al, are allowed to take charge. Is this the best course of action or should we be working harder than ever to hold the line and actually try to make a difference by getting more constitutionally-minded conservatives elected? Are you willing to give it all up or are you more determined than ever to keep the Marxists out of power?" _____

So far, 13% of members and 18%+ of participants in this poll say - turn it over to the rats. What's with that? I cannot believe that 13% of those posting here are so stupid or angry with what is happening that they would turn to the rats for the way back to perfect. Now, 13% will result in a winning vote, in a lot of cases.

Anyway, I guess that there is no compromising for some people - just dig a hole and live there while the rats are in charge. I'm so disappointed.

[PISANO]

I believe it will be more like 20 percent on this board who are Libs at heart. One issue Republicans are well represented here!

[al_again]

Any Republican primary candidate that makes stopping illegal immigration a priority will do very well on Election Day and has an excellent chance of unseating the current Republican Congresscritter who is soft on the issue.

I mean this in the nicest possible way - but you are a fool to believe any change can be accomplished through the primaries. Check the statistics - primaries are only meaningful for selecting a challenger or an open-seat. They are completely ineffective for removing an incumbent.

[JimSEA]

When the left gains power again, they will not let loose. Many follow the Chomsky like dictum that "some things are just two important for a democratic process". What I am saying is if you let them dominate, you may well not be able to vote them back out. Look at how they have come to dominate the universities and bureaucracy (State, CIA, Justice, etc.).

[rrrod]

The current crop of Republicans is waaaay out of touch with the base.

[stopem]

Place the blame where it belongs! Squarely on a bunch of Republicans who have lost their way and are now giving in to democrats. IF they lose the majority it won't be the fault of the voter taxpayers it will be their own fault!

They are falling into a trap set by the socialists and they are running scared like wimps and giving in to pass the McCain/Kennedy amnesty bill. That will be their downfall not voters.

[jazusamo]

That's BS

[jackbenimble]

Ditto to everything you said.

I'll add that there are certain Republican incumbants that I am actively trying to help defeat in the primaries. Chris Cannon of Utah is at the top of my list. If that gives the Democrats a better chance in the general election, too bad.

[Mo1]

The battle belongs in the primaries .. not the general election

If the Liberals regain control .. we can kiss all our freedoms good-bye

[al_again]

That's BS

It would be a good idea to provide some supporting arguments - maybe then we could have a reasonable discussion.

[moehoward]

There ARE Conservatives members we could rally around, like Tancredo.

[RobFromGa]

President Bush has two years after the 2006 elections to hopefully replace up to two more Supreme Court justices. We need the Senate majority in 2006 to get the nominees confirmed.

The "scorched Earth" conservatives are morons if they thinking making a point that will potentially tilt the SCOTUS left for the next 25 years is a smart move.

The "one-issue" (pick your favorite) conservatives are impossible to placate.

[paul51]

I'm so disappointed

That's how I feel about the gop controlled senate and house. They don't deserve my vote.

[IronJack]

If you are betrayed, then rise again and again in defense of the traitor, you become complicit in the betrayal. Far from being part of the solution, you then become part of the problem.

Slavish devotion to realpolitik has brought the GOP to this pass. You can blame the party's decline on its members, or you can face the harsh possiblity that the party has betrayed its founding principles, and doesn't deserve to be the collective representative of conservatives anymore.

Or, to put it simply, the party owes us; we don't owe the party.

[1903A3]

Yes,but
The proper way to do that is not to fire "any R" but to fire the most serious offender and simultaneously vote for true conservative in other state
Remember we only need a conservative majority in congress
From which State they come is irrelevant
In November it's the class 1 senator that are up for reelection ( see the Senate site for explanations ) and I believe that Chaffee for example should go
Just replace him somewhere else by a true republican
( Tancredo ?? )

[Krodg]

The problem with Republican lawmakers is that they interpret low poll numbers as a need to be more like Democrats, rather than a need to be more Conservative.

That is so sad, but so true.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

They might not deserve your vote, but the alternative is so bad I couldn't deal with it, myself.

Better a half glass, and get off my touch and work the local grassroots than die of thirst...

[jackbenimble]

There ARE Conservatives members we could rally around, like Tancredo.

The RINOs will never rally around Tancredo. You are misunderstanding how the game is played. Conservatives are supposed to rally around RINO candidates. RINOs are supposed to sabotage conservative candidates.

[jslade]

Pelosi as leader isn't nearly so frightening as Henry Waxman with supoena power, becoming chairman of the committee that will most assuredly impeach President Bush.

The would be that moonbat John Conyers as chair of the judiciary committee. IIRC.

[BW2221]

Unfortunately George Bush and the GOP members of Congress have no one to blame but themselves. The past six years could have been an era of real change.

Aside from the war on terror and the two Supreme Court Justices he nominated, there is little to distinguish Bush from the Democrats. He spent money like a 'Rat, has done nothing to secure the borders, has done a poor job of communicating and often seems more interested in appeasing his enemies than his base.

The GOP Congress turned its back on the Contract with America.

I'll vote straight Republican, but I am not hopeful.

[Seruzawa]

I have to agree with you. Several years ago, here in Utah, incumbent Gov Leavitt was poised to lose renomination at the party caucus. The solution? His buddies in the party appointed a couple of hundred "special" caucus members and managed to physically lock out a number of true conservatives from the vote. Leavitt was a big spender who grew govt at 300% of the rate of population growth during his first two terms.

The party machine decides who will be the candidate more often than not.