Myth vs. Fact: (You cannot deport 12 million people) Oh Yes You Can!

The New American ^ | May 1, 2006 | Thomas R. Eddlem

[BJungNan]

In some instances illegal immigrants do help the economy. They spend money at stores.

[Luis Gonzalez]

The totalization agreement does not address these wages, it only addresses the wages of those who came, worked legally, paid taxes, then returned to Mexico. Those wages do not fall into the Earnings Suspense File.

This is no theory, it is a fact, acknowledged by the SSA, as well as the Center for Immigration Studies.

[Osage Orange]

Our borders should have been secured years ago. This is Bush's fault

Well not quite.

There's plenty of blame to go around......I wouldn't just heap it all on GWB.

[Dane]

JMO, I find it interesting that the uber-Libertarians on FR such as william and their hero boortz are all of the sudden upset about family oriented and socially conservative people immigrating to the US.

I guess if if it were libertine Dutch from Amsterdam pouring in, they would be saying huzzah.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Also, I do not agree for one moment with your economic arguments for allowing illegal immigration."

Since when does identifying the underlying factors of an issue translate into an argument in favor of its outcome?

If I now post the history and underlying causes for the rise of the Third Reich, does that mean that I support Nazism?

I'm just telling you why it's happening...that's all.

[freema]

FACT: Friend of mine on the school playground with a 7 year old yesterday who told her he can't go outside and play or go to Walmart because George Bush is a bad man who is going to send him to a bad place when he sends his Mom and Dad back to Mexico.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Give the Dutch time, given what's doing over there with the Muslims, they'll be coming soon.

[Dane]

In some instances illegal immigrants do help the economy. They spend money at stores

Didn't you know, according to some on FR, they twitich their noses and presto, food and drink from their favorite store in Guadalajara.

[backtothestreets]

FDR and Eisenhower had no problem removing Mexican illegal aliens during their administrations. Both used the military to round up the illegals as I recall, bring them to detention centers, then have them deported by the Border Patrol. Reagan should have done the same during his administration rather then to provide for them.

Bush is walking a tightrope by his own choosing. This is one responsibility he has tried to shrug off for too long. He has conflicted interests. He must be pressed to make a decision for action based upon his Constitutional responsibility, then take action.

I have no qualms with people of Mexican heritage, and welcome immigrants from Mexico that are here legally.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Simply put, the ponzi scheme is running out of suckers."

So we're having to import them.

[Raycpa]

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

Dan...why did they go home after working when the Bracero program was in place?

Would this have anything to do with the bond/deposit put up by the employer/contractor guaranteeing the braceros transportation (to and from place of origin), living expenses and repatriation?

Or that the bracero program was controlled by the independent farmer associations and the "Farm Bureau" and that once their contracts expired, the braceros were required hand over their permits and return to Mexico and that if the employer/contractor didn't provide proof of having paid these expenses, then the employer/contractor wouldn't get their money back?

[tumblindice]

"Mexico is outsourcing its unemployment to the US"

That's an arrow in the pro-Mexico quiver; we were Europe's `dumping ground' for a long time, so, if we won't sing the second verse we're (to borrow from the feeble-minded) John Birchers or Nazis?
I suppose the response to that is, we had a continent to cross and populate at the time. Millard Fillmore and the `Know Nothing/Nativists didn't like it, but that's too bad for them and the current name-callers.
The Germans and Irish were "legal".
But that sort of begs the question, doesn't it, since the Mexi-philes are saying, "So make the Mexicans legal." With the difference being, they are currently in violation of US law and would require an amnesty.

[riri]

We can move tons and tons of armaments, mini cities over seas to fight an enemy, yet I am supposed to believe we couldn't rid ourselves of a good number of these people...pulease!

[Dixie Yooper]

At least you like my idea of ticketing pickup truck drivers with riders in back.

We have found common ground! Now we can move forward to finding a solution to getting them back home safely.

[KevinDavis]

Reagan deserves some blame for signing that amnesty bill in the 80's...

[William Terrell]

Ah, but "assimilation" is the keyword, don't you think? I think we should rethink our policy on Cubans. Are you a member of the "reconquer" movement, too, since that's what we're hearing from the agitators you want to legalize in the country now?

[Dane]

Ruh roh, the abuse button is being pushed a zillion times right now by some on FR for pointing out that historical fact(the massive deportation of Jews during WW II).

[StarFan]

What you are trying to say is the other presidents did it, so Bush can too, and that is pure BS.

That is NOT what I'm saying as I don't believe the fault lies with any President but the congress who represents us. Has a viable immigration bill with border security crossed his desk and he vetoed it while we all slept? Does he wield the power to single handedly close the border and deport? Please don't tell me you're buying into the bunk from Harry Reid begging the President to guide the Senate on how to handle this issue?