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To: calex59
What you are trying to say is the other presidents did it, so Bush can too, and that is pure BS.

That is NOT what I'm saying as I don't believe the fault lies with any President but the congress who represents us. Has a viable immigration bill with border security crossed his desk and he vetoed it while we all slept? Does he wield the power to single handedly close the border and deport? Please don't tell me you're buying into the bunk from Harry Reid begging the President to guide the Senate on how to handle this issue?

140 posted on 04/25/2006 1:25:18 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: StarFan
No, I am not buying into anything Reid says, BUT I do believe that President Bush is complicit, in the fact he has stated over and over he wants amensty(under a guest worker name) and he favors open borders. This makes it his fault. He can push congress to not pass any bill and he does have the power to force our federal agencies to enforce the law.

We don't need new laws, we need to enforce the ones that are now on the books and he refuses to do so.

This makes it HIS fault, as well as the fault of congress who should be holding his feet to the fire and demanding he enforce our laws!

146 posted on 04/25/2006 1:30:18 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: StarFan
"Does he wield the power to single handedly close the border and deport?"

That is correct. Congress has given the President that authority (and responsibility) numerous times.

Under whose authority do you think INS (and now ICE) has been deporting illegals all these years? Do you honestly not believe the President has the authority, in time of war, to secure the borders of the United States?

Please, please tell me you don't think the President lacks the authority to secure the borders of the United States...
224 posted on 04/25/2006 3:25:35 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: StarFan
That is NOT what I'm saying as I don't believe the fault lies with any President but the congress who represents us. Has a viable immigration bill with border security crossed his desk and he vetoed it while we all slept? Does he wield the power to single handedly close the border and deport?

It is President Bush's choice, and nothing else, that is preventing the enforcement of the laws the vast majority of Americans want enforced. He already has -- and has always had -- all the power he needs to enforce our laws as he well demonstrated after 9-11 with the rapid round-ups of muslim radicals virtually all of whom were charged with immigration violations! No further laws or action by Congress is needed for the President to enforce our existing laws against illegal immigration and the hiring of illegal immigrants.

We all understand that a few high profile prosecutions of employers of illegal aliens would end the job lure and would go a long way toward solving the problem without the need for draconian round-ups of illegals, but under the Bush Administration such prosecutions of employers has all but stopped. Even the Clinton administration was much better than Bush on employer enforcement and he avoided the pro-illegal and anti American worker rhetoric that Bush has been spouting that has emboldened and encouraged illegals here and in Mexico. By his actions President Bush has renounced any pretense of believing in democracy and self-government here in America while hypocritically promoting it in Iraq and around the world.

Now I will agree that Congress has failed in its duty to insist that he enforce our immigration laws. This has been their sordid little game in which Congress gets credit for passing laws against illegal immigration but never demands that the President enforce them. Congress can and should use every power it has, including impeachment, to demand that the President observe his oath of office and enforce our laws.

226 posted on 04/25/2006 3:31:00 PM PDT by politeia
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