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Myth vs. Fact: (You cannot deport 12 million people) Oh Yes You Can!
The New American ^ | May 1, 2006 | Thomas R. Eddlem

Posted on 04/25/2006 10:57:43 AM PDT by underwiredsupport

 

Myth vs. Fact
by Thomas R. Eddlem
May 1, 2006

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/printer_3745.shtml

Politicians and pundits are defending illegal immigration with worn-out myths that can easily be proven wrong.

Myth: Illegal immigrants contribute greatly to the American economy.

Fact: So-called statistics supporting this myth are typically a deceptive amalgam of statistics and supposition arranged to conceal an undeniable truth. Consider, for instance, this statement from the ACLU paper Immigrants and the Economy (2002): "Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses." If 32.5 million immigrants (the total of legal and illegal immigrants, according to the recent U.S. Census figures) really pay $90 billion in taxes, then they pay half the taxes the average native-born American pays. Note too that the ACLU combines both legal and illegal immigrants into its statistic. Most taxes paid by immigrants are paid by legal immigrants. Illegal immigrants often pay little or no taxes because many of them are working "under the table" in the underground, cash-based economy.

Welfare is a term limited to only a few federal subsidy programs, and the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) notes: "Even though illegal aliens make little use of welfare, from which they are generally barred, the costs of illegal immigration in terms of government expenditures for education, criminal justice, and emergency medical care are significant." CIS estimates that the total net cost of illegal immigration is an annual drain on the government of $11-22 billion annually.

Myth: We are a nation of immigrants.

Fact: This myth is false on its face. Nearly 88 percent of the people living in the United States today are not immigrants; they were born here. This is a nation of natives, not a nation of immigrants. "But," the liberal propagandists reply, "we all have ancestors who come from other countries." And, one might reply, so does just about every other nation on Earth.

Are not the French merely descendents of the immigrant barbarian Franks, who drove out the Roman era Celtic Gauls? And the English are simply immigrant Angles and Saxons who virtually wiped out the Celtic Britons in the fifth century A.D. They too are simply nations of immigrants under this liberal myth, as is practically every other nation on Earth. The myth descends to meaninglessness upon any serious analysis. Yet whenever this myth is uttered, we are expected to nod our heads in agreement that a deep and salient point has been made.

Myth: You cannot deport 12 million people.

Fact: This is nothing more than a slogan for people who have stopped trying to address the problem. The U.S. government needs to begin deporting illegal aliens, and even if it only deports a fraction of them over the next few years that would be progress. If the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency deported only two million of the 12 million illegal aliens, 10 million illegals would be better than 12 million.

Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) notes that enforcing employer sanctions could lead many to go home on their own without deportation proceedings: "If you can't get a job in this country, and if you can't get social service benefits, you go home." Additionally, a lot of immigrants visit families on their own, and wouldn't be able to get back in if Congress decides to secure the border.

On the other hand, if the 12 million illegals are legalized, none would be deported. Moreover, this amnesty (whether called amnesty or not) would simply induce more illegals to cross the Rio Grande in the hopes of waiting until the next amnesty.

Myth: Illegal immigrants are only taking jobs Americans do not want.

Fact: Many illegal immigrants are able to work for less than market value because they don't pay income or Social Security taxes and are able to take their entire paycheck (or cash) home. This is not only unfair competition against employers who follow the law and pay employees "above the table," but it depresses the wage scale for Americans who would otherwise select jobs currently filled by illegal immigrants. These are jobs that Americans "do not want" only because the illegal immigrants have depressed the wage scale for the positions. Take away the illegal immigrants, and the market would raise wages to the level where Americans would take the jobs.

Myth: Guest workers would only be here temporarily.

Fact: History demonstrates that "guest workers" would be as temporary as the "temporary" telephone tax, still in effect, that Congress enacted in 1898 to pay for the Spanish-American War. And what would happen if 12 million "guest workers" decided not to leave? Those who argue against deporting the current 12 million illegal aliens as impractical are likely, if challenged, to say they find the prospect of deporting "guest workers" impractical as well.

Thus, it is hardly surprising that President Bush fails to mention a time limit on the "temporary" worker visas the federal government would permit under the "guest worker" program he is pushing in his public addresses. Most pending congressional legislation would limit the "guest worker" to three years — but what then?

Myth: Illegal immigrants have a right to come here. It is our Christian duty to provide hospitality.

Fact: Nearly two-thirds of the 32.5 million foreign-born people living in the United States entered this country legally, and the United States has more legal immigrants than any other country in the world. That's hardly poor hospitality, and no bill before Congress that has a chance of becoming law would change this nation's hospitality. But it is poor hospitality to say to the nearly 22 million legal U.S. immigrants who waited in line that they wasted their time following the rules because illegal immigrants will now get the same status.

The need to deport illegal aliens and secure our borders has nothing to do with persecuting minorities or lack of hospitality. The United States can continue to allow a large or small number of immigrants into this country legally, depending upon how many can be reasonably assimilated without destroying our American identity. Rather, securing our borders is necessary as a matter of principle — in the interests of equal justice under law — as well as practical security in this age of international terrorism. And this nation can no longer afford to allow "myth-information" slogans to sidetrack the nation from fulfilling the mandate of controlling the borders.
 


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlist; deportationpossible; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; minutemen
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A good review of Myth vs. Fact amongst the growing hyperbole and bovine supplements...
1 posted on 04/25/2006 10:57:46 AM PDT by underwiredsupport
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To: underwiredsupport

I could make everyone in this office leave right now by not paying any of them.


2 posted on 04/25/2006 10:59:21 AM PDT by jw777
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To: underwiredsupport

Our borders should have been secured years ago. This is Bush's fault. The USA does not need to form a militia to remove those who came here illegally.


3 posted on 04/25/2006 10:59:58 AM PDT by tessalu (t)
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To: underwiredsupport

Good posting.


4 posted on 04/25/2006 11:00:07 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: underwiredsupport
Can we please try to Secure Our Borders first?

If we don't, then what's the point of returning the illegals? ...they simply return the next week.

5 posted on 04/25/2006 11:00:49 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: underwiredsupport

Tagline.


6 posted on 04/25/2006 11:01:31 AM PDT by SerpentDove (We will not stand by and allow politicians to destroy our country through open borders.)
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To: underwiredsupport

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it.


7 posted on 04/25/2006 11:01:58 AM PDT by American Quilter (Lucidity of speech is one of the surest tests of mental precision. - David Lloyd George)
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To: underwiredsupport

I have heard the line about deporting too often. It has been repeated by all sides and that cements my thought that it is a lie. Prove to me it won't work.


8 posted on 04/25/2006 11:03:10 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: underwiredsupport

Please...this guy's stoned.


9 posted on 04/25/2006 11:03:37 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: underwiredsupport

That's the Best presentation of immigration facts I've seen yet.

Time to stop being sheeple when it comes to this.

Now if only the spineless hussies in Washington can stand up on this - right now there are I think maybe 3 or 4??

Does anyone have a list of who has a backbone on immigration? I'd love a list.


10 posted on 04/25/2006 11:05:11 AM PDT by standingfirm
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To: underwiredsupport

Si Se Puede


11 posted on 04/25/2006 11:07:34 AM PDT by texas_mrs (Immigrants made this country great - Illegal immigrants are now destroying it)
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To: underwiredsupport

If there is ONE thing that Republicans and Democrats should and could unite on, it is this issue.

It's a shame, however, that the government and the public can't.


12 posted on 04/25/2006 11:08:28 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (If every illegal came here, carrying a barrell of oil, our problems would be solved (at least w/gas))
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To: underwiredsupport

I don't think deporting any of them makes any sense until there is first a well-guarded, physical barrier at the border to prevent them from coming back. We'd just be wasting time and money.

It is wholly unrealistic to think that we are going to find, let alone round up and deport 12 million individuals. But we damn sure can and should be deporting (after the border is sealed) any illegal who is caught in the comission of a felony or a repeat misdemeanor. That way, we're not wasting time tracking the illegals down. We wait until they come to us, so to speak.


13 posted on 04/25/2006 11:08:28 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (If low-skill workers were key to economic growth, Mexico would be an economic powerhouse.-Rich Lowry)
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To: underwiredsupport

Sure it can be done...as long as cost is no option.


14 posted on 04/25/2006 11:08:38 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: underwiredsupport

The devil is in the details.


15 posted on 04/25/2006 11:09:11 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Protest all you want, but deportations will resume...either with this administration, or another. Keep your bags packed! ;)0 sarcasm/on


16 posted on 04/25/2006 11:09:57 AM PDT by underwiredsupport (...for the shape of things to come!)
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To: underwiredsupport
Let's take this BS apart one by one...

He quotes the Center for Immigration Studies. Here's aother quote from the same source:

"Using data from the Census Bureau's current population survey, Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies, an advocacy group in Washington that favors more limits on immigration, estimated that 3.8 million households headed by illegal immigrants generated $6.4 billion in Social Security taxes in 2002." -- Source

That JUST Social Security taxes mind you, they also pay sales taxes.

18 posted on 04/25/2006 11:11:30 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: underwiredsupport
Moreover, this amnesty (whether called amnesty or not) would simply induce more illegals to cross the Rio Grande in the hopes of waiting until the next amnesty.

Bingo.
19 posted on 04/25/2006 11:11:44 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Someday we'll look back on all this and plow into a parked car)
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To: underwiredsupport

Wait...

Bush claims he deported 6 million illegals.

Why not more?


20 posted on 04/25/2006 11:12:09 AM PDT by Shermy
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