To: underwiredsupport
Let's take this BS apart one by one...
He quotes the Center for Immigration Studies. Here's aother quote from the same source:
"Using data from the Census Bureau's current population survey, Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies, an advocacy group in Washington that favors more limits on immigration, estimated that 3.8 million households headed by illegal immigrants generated $6.4 billion in Social Security taxes in 2002." -- Source
That JUST Social Security taxes mind you, they also pay sales taxes.
18 posted on
04/25/2006 11:11:30 AM PDT by
Luis Gonzalez
(Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Paying sales tax is a measure of when the law should be enforced?
To: Luis Gonzalez
That JUST Social Security taxes mind you, they also pay sales taxes. Oh, Gasp! They do! Why, then, we'll just have to keep 'em here sucking off our nation's wealth and sending it back to the hellhole they came from, for the state sales taxes they pay, doncha know.
40 posted on
04/25/2006 11:38:18 AM PDT by
William Terrell
(Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
To: Luis Gonzalez
"Using data from the Census Bureau's current population survey, Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies, an advocacy group in Washington that favors more limits on immigration, estimated that 3.8 million households headed by illegal immigrants generated $6.4 billion in Social Security taxes in 2002." -- SourceHow could an illegal alien pay into SS when you have to be a citizen or legally authorized alien to do so? ( How do I replace a lost Social Security card?)
48 posted on
04/25/2006 11:49:47 AM PDT by
Ol' Dan Tucker
(Karen Ryan reporting...)
To: Luis Gonzalez
That JUST Social Security taxes mind you, they also pay sales taxes.Big deal. I pay taxes on my purchases when I visit other countries LEGALLY with my passport stamped for a visit. That doesn't confer any rights of citizenship in the countries I'm visiting. Paying taxes as an illegal invader doesn't entitle you to rights of citizenship either. There is a correct way to immigrate and become a citizen. The laws are already on the books. It's time to enforce them.
88 posted on
04/25/2006 12:31:38 PM PDT by
Myrddin
To: Luis Gonzalez
That JUST Social Security taxes mind you, they also pay sales taxesThe issue of whether illegal aliens contribute more than they cost is constantly being used in this debate but it really does not matter at all. In this country, the people get to decide public policy on illegal immigration. That is what "republican" self-government is all about. The fact is that the lawful citizens of this country have decided this issue long ago and this decision againt illegal immigration is now and has been expressed in our laws for decades. The ignoring of these democratically enacted laws for decades by our elected officials is nothing less than a revolt by the political elites and their corporate clients and handlers against the sovereignty of the people.
Also, I do not agree for one moment with your economic arguments for allowing illegal immigration. Everything does not come down to economics afterall. One murder of an American citizen, or any crime for that matter, conducted by a person who is here illegally and against whom our government was obligated to protect us is already too much crime. This nation was founded to establish self-government, not to ensure the largest tax revenues possible!
To: Luis Gonzalez
That JUST Social Security taxes mind you, they also pay sales taxes.
Ya, sales taxes paid with welfare dollars.
To: Luis Gonzalez
*****Using data from the Census Bureau's current population survey, Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies, an advocacy group in Washington that favors more limits on immigration, estimated that 3.8 million households headed by illegal immigrants generated $6.4 billion in Social Security taxes in 2002." -- Source
That JUST Social Security taxes mind you, they also pay sales taxes.****
I have no idea of where you're going with your argument but it sure DOESN'T help the illegals.
- That $6.4 Billion equates to a stinking $1,684.21 per year which equates a GROSS income of a 'whopping' (sarcasm intended) $27,165.00 per year, or $522.40 a week for 52 weeks.
- Your 'source' was the NY Times which isn't credible on any matter.
- Sales taxes. SO WHAT?!? With a GROSS Income of $27K there isn't a lot of money left to be buying anything. Ergo the 'They Pay Sales Tax' pitch doesn't fly as paying sales taxes on nothing = nothing.
Again, I don't know what your point was, but it reads like DEPORT these LEECHES on society yesterday.
And if that's it - I concur.
164 posted on
04/25/2006 1:41:57 PM PDT by
Condor51
(Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
To: Luis Gonzalez
"That JUST Social Security taxes mind you, they also pay sales taxes."
I've paid into Social Security and paid sales tax since I was 15. When do I get to break the law with impunity?
Or are you saying that illegal aliens have more righs than American citizens?
175 posted on
04/25/2006 2:03:30 PM PDT by
NJ_gent
(Modernman should not have been banned.)
To: Luis Gonzalez
You left out Payroll Taxes.
Illegal Aliens cost more than they help -- period.
There is not a single line of BS in this article -- as much as you would like to wish there to be.
188 posted on
04/25/2006 2:25:03 PM PDT by
freedumb2003
(Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
To: Luis Gonzalez
That JUST Social Security taxes mind you, they also pay sales taxes. Car thieves pay taxes on the fuel they purchase to drive the stolen car. What's your point? Should they get to keep the car?
196 posted on
04/25/2006 2:32:50 PM PDT by
Spiff
("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
To: Luis Gonzalez
So tell me Mr. Gonzalez(I assume that is your real name), how do you pay Social Security tax when the only SSN you posses is some dead guy's? Most taxes are paid by legal citizens. How does one pay SS tax when one doesn't have a SSN?
278 posted on
04/25/2006 8:27:29 PM PDT by
LifeOrGoods?
(God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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