Bush: Massive deportation of migrants won't work

Reuters ^ | 4.24.06 | Tabassum Zakaria

[Dr. Marten]

By Tabassum Zakaria

IRVINE, California (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Monday he doubted a "massive deportation" of foreigners living illegally in the United States would solve the country's immigration woes, as he tried to revive prospects for an election-year agreement in the divided U.S. Congress.

Senators returned to Washington on Monday from a two-week recess after Democrats and Republicans were unable to reach a compromise on what to do about an estimated 11.5 million to 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States.

 

[Jane Austen]

This supports those who claim that our biggest danger comes from within, not only from the shocking number of illegal aliens who are establishing cells and crime cartels, but from our so-called leader.

[bugsplat]

I am not a troll...

thank you for commuincating with me...

I don't have the same views on walls...and deportation...

I think we need to figure something out that works...

this IMHO isn't it...

take care

[GarySpFc]

Most illegals living here are not committing crimes either.

Sorry, but that is dead wrong. Here are some of the most common felonies committed by illegal aliens..

8 usc 1325 entering the US unlawfully (misdemeanor first time, felony second time)
8 usc 1326 entering the US after being deported
18 usc 1546 using false documents to obtain work authorization
18 usc 1028 using false identification document
42 usc 408 misuse of a social security number
18 usc 1344 setting up a bank account with false information

[madison10]

President George W. Bush said on Monday he doubted a "massive deportation" of foreigners living illegally in the United States would solve the country's immigration woes

I think it would be a bureaucratic nightmare to try to send so many illegals back. Amnesty is NOT the answer either. We should at least put up a wall, fence, moat, and/or guard towers to stop the flow of aliens coming in.

One thing that would help is to stop announcing our every move weeks before we act.

[RegulatorCountry]

"Criminals? Deport them. But law abiding hard working?"

Just which aspect of the relationship between "illegal" and "criminal" don't you understand? Illegal aliens broke the law the minute they set foot in the US, in the manner that they chose to do so. They cannot suddenly become "law abiding" when they never were.

[dirtboy]

The methods are the same...

Oh, puh-leeze. A cop shoots a rapist. A carjacker shoots a driver. Method is the same - shooting. But that is the limit of the similarity. To say the two are morally equivalent is absurd.

And the same is true with your lame-assed attempts to equate extermination and genocide of people with enforcing our own immigration laws that were in place when these people came here.

If that's the best the anti-deportation types can do, you've lost the argument.

[Cautor]

Bush and the pols in Congress (both sides of the aisle) are trying to force us into the belief deportation is the only approach. But it isn't. If you haven't looked at other ideas, check out the paper below from the respected Center for Immigration Studies. Personally, I'd also be happy to see all of them rounded up and shipped out. It could be done if we wanted to do it. Above all we must secure our borders, otherwise the war on terror is a joke. Bush needs cold water in his face.


Attrition Through Enforcement
A Cost-Effective Strategy to Shrink the Illegal Population

http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back406.html

[negril]

Part of Bush's problem right now is that the mantra that the democrats are worse is wearing thin.

Is Bush really that much better than what we would get with the democrats in control? I think Bush has done a better job on terrorism although recent events make me wonder if he isn't going "soft" on that score. But as to domestic spending and his insane amnesty proposal, how much worse could it be under the democrats?

[dirtboy]

Part of our tradition is allowing immigrants to come here.

And part of our tradition is that laws matter.

And another part of conservative tradition used to be that we learned from our mistakes. You, apparently, wish to repeat the mistakes of the Reagan amnesty.

[GarySpFc]

It would be nice if you and the president showed a little more compassion for those attempting to come here legally than the lawbreakers.

My wife is a Patrick Henry American. I say that, because for 3 months prior to her naturalization ceremony she went around telling everyone, “Just give me liberty or give me death.” And she did almost die in the immigration process due to severe reactions from a required INS immunization.

In August 2002 we applied to bring her then 22 year old daughter to America, and now as the adult daughter of a CITIZEN she will be able to legally immigrate here approximately 6 to 10 years after our application. In the interim she is not allowed to visit her Mom in this country, and that due to American law, NOT Russian. Five years after arriving she can apply for citizenship, and that totals 11 to 15 years. However, they would make illegal aliens eligible for a Green Card in 6 years and citizenship after 5 years for a total of 11 years. Some relatives of citizens have to wait 23 years to immigrate here legally, and add 5 years for citizenship for a total of 28 years.

Excuse me, but the man behind the curtain is telling us illegal aliens will have to go to the end of the line. How can it be illegal aliens will have to go to the end of the line, when they grain citizenship in 11 years, and legal immigrants arrive at that point in 11 to 28 years? Not only that, but the illegal aliens get to wait in line in America, whereas the 4 million attempting to immigrate legally have to wait in their countries. By the way, in the last 15 years almost twice as many immigrants have come here legally from Mexico than all Europe combined, and that does not include the illegal aliens. What ever happened to truth, justice, and the American way?

[Cementjungle]

Why don't we just lure them to the other side of the border with a free concert (with all you can drink free Corona beer). Then, don't let them back in after the concert ends.

[beaversmom]

Thanks for the synopsis.

See this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1620198/post

These are the haters!

[beaversmom]

Clarification--the people at the rally are the haters!

[Cautor]

"Part of Bush's problem right now is that the mantra that the democrats are worse is wearing thin."

First, it was the Katrina apology, and we know what that got Bush.

Second, the Harriet Myers cronyism further hurt Bush.

Then, he allowed his staff to blindside him on the Dubai ports deal.

Now, he's feeding us the line that the choice is nothing or deportation.

Yes, the mantra that the Dems are worse is little consolation. He's lost my support.

[negril]

I'm comfortable with staying home election day to teach the Republicans a lesson about ignoring their base. I did it in '92 and I'll do it again as long as I fail to see any measurable difference in the effects it has on me and my security and my pocketbook. Right now, I ain't seeing alot of difference in policy.

[justa-hairyape]

So it took about 20 years of failed border enforcement policies for 11 million illegals immigrants to get into this country. Fine. Erect a wall. Enforce our borders. Charge businesses who continue to violate the law heavy fines. And start a 20 year deportation program. It really is simple. Why do the political elites have so much trouble solving this problem ?

At one time in our past our government welcomed the challenge of putting a human on the moon. Now our failed elite establishment cannot even handle moving humans back to Mexico.

[sheana]

Why ask me, I have called noone names. I just don't respond if they do not warrant a response.

[eleni121]

Sometimes doing the right thing is the most difficult concept of all for people to grasp...they have too much baggage they are carrying around but cannot admit to. But this reaction is not new. What needs to be discussed are the "draw" factors that appeal to the throngs who come here: lack of border parolling; poor INS management; and this:

Just remove those pesky safety nets!

[technomage]

I don't have the same views on walls...and deportation...

Yes, I know and I disagree strongly.

Secure the border first. No talk of anything else until that is done. If we do not secure the border, all the talk, the energy and the money put towards all the other "plans" are moot and a waste.

BTW, I am a STRONG advocate of putting up a wall. The technology is there (just look at the Israelis). All we need is politicians with the nads to do it.

Start with the worst 700-800 miles of border, then expand later.

You can see more of my thoughts by reading other posts that I have made over the months and years.

[GOP Poet]

Okay Bushie, so maybe we should just take to shooting them on the spot. Cheaper anyway.