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CIA warned Bush of no weapons in Iraq: retired official (ZOT!!! Retread too dim to change m/o.)
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Posted on 04/22/2006 6:32:17 AM PDT by Andy5000

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The Central Intelligence Agency warned US President George W. Bush before the Iraq war that it had reliable information the government of Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction, a retired CIA operative disclosed.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; intelligence; iraq; prewarintelligence; retardretread; troll; war; zot; zotme; zotmeharder; zotmeharderbaby; zotmelikethedogiam
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To: Andy5000
Then who or what killed all those Kurds with nerve gas?

Who sent the highly refined Anthrax?

Does anybody really believe that Hussein was not a BAD guy and that Iraq was not a haven of Islamofascist terrorists?

Does anybody really believe that Hussein and his cohorts and minions in the Islamofascist world would NOT use nukes on us if he had or could get or make them? Or give them to somebody else who would?

I guess there really are numbnuts out there who aren't aware that Islam and it's backwards, barbarian scum are at total war with America and Western civilization and want us dead and destroyed? It's for real.

Why is the left so continually naive, perfidious, seditious and just plain stupid?
61 posted on 04/22/2006 7:41:19 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: Andy5000
a retired CIA operative disclosed.

"Disclosed" and not "alleged"? That's enough for me.

62 posted on 04/22/2006 7:41:19 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Western Phil
A politicized intelligence agency is what is worthless. The president - any president - needs the most accurate information he can get to make the proper decisions.

Exactly right -

CIC GWB acted correctly and most Americans know this. History will show this. The WMD equation was merely one of more then a dozen reasons Saddam needed to be removed.

The world is safer because of our actions. No intellectually honest person can deny that the world is better off now without Saddam in power (for a variety or reasons).

Dir. Goss needs to continue to lay the hammer down big time within -

63 posted on 04/22/2006 7:41:46 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: garyhope

>>>>Who sent the highly refined Anthrax?

Some thoughts for pondering....

State says clerical error to blame for unaccounted anthrax
The Associated Press
Published: Friday, April 21, 2006
Updated: Friday, April 21, 2006

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) - New Jersey health officials on Friday said they cannot account for some anthrax once thought to be stored at a government laboratory, but said mistakes during previous inventories of the deadly bacteria may be to blame.

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/newjersey/story/6147721p-6145628c.html


64 posted on 04/22/2006 7:43:22 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: bnelson44
Retired CIA operative? That could be anyone.

Could even be the cleaning lady. No wait, she worked for the State Department.

65 posted on 04/22/2006 7:44:07 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Calpernia

Yes, we do have lawyers on the open forum. Maybe someone remembers who they are and can ping them for their input.

I don't remember screen names very often so I'm not going to be able to be helpful with that.

It's just sickening watching these people in action; at this point they're a danger to the nation.


66 posted on 04/22/2006 7:44:11 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Calpernia

I don't know Calpernia. It's so frustrating with everything we know. I know get the truth out is a big defense, but when the MSM controls the "truth", its hard, isn't it?

At least more people know more info thanks to sites such as this, and the internet on a whole. Of course, it also propels traitors such as Drumheller.

I'll bet there is no legal recourse on this.

At the end of the day, the truth is all we've got. It's tiring, but at least we know we're right.

I hope Tony Snow takes the press secretary job.


67 posted on 04/22/2006 7:44:15 AM PDT by eyespysomething (American liberals like everything about the struggle for freedom except the struggle.)
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To: DB
"I suppose that's why the CIA director at the time said it was a "slam dunk"..."

Thank you. Not to mention the fact that if this so-called CIA official had proof that Saddam had no WMD's during the time he was still employed by the government, he should have said it. He would have been heralded as a "whistleblower" by the Left and paraded around as a God. These people are so transparent it's pathetic.

68 posted on 04/22/2006 7:44:22 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: kellynla

Good point.


69 posted on 04/22/2006 7:45:37 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: bnelson44
"Retired CIA operative? That could be anyone."

To the press, everyone, including the Janitor who cleans the toilet stalls at the CIA is considered an operative. They use that term awfully loosely.

70 posted on 04/22/2006 7:46:03 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Calpernia

Good find!


71 posted on 04/22/2006 7:46:31 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Andy5000
A CIA official said there were NO WMD and THE DIRECTOR OF THE CIA said that it was a SLAM DUNK that they DID?!?!!!!!!

The fact that this bozo is even getting air time is a nefarious quest by the MSM to destroy this President.

Everyone KNOWS there were varying opinions about Saddam having WMD. However the OVERWHELMING CONSENSUS of both our Intelligence agencies and every other country in the world was that HE DID and there was NO DOUBT he would use them or reconstitute them again somewhere down the road.

72 posted on 04/22/2006 7:46:46 AM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: Semper Paratus
[ Bush is paying a high price in not completly purging the CIA and Defense of Clinton rump swabs.. ]

Or the Justice Department.. Clinton cleaned house there on his inaugeration and installed shills pretty quickly.. Bush either didnt know that or care.. or worse was a "Unite'er not a Divide'er".. which carrys to the whole Excutive Branch.. i.e. Sandy Berger getting off SCOTT FREE..

73 posted on 04/22/2006 7:46:58 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Peach

The few lawyer types I have fished out on our forums to date seem to be more of the troll eliment. I am still looking for real freeper legal minds. Ping me if or when you find a legal freeper. I will pm some defined questions.


74 posted on 04/22/2006 7:47:01 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: All

I came across this very well-written and interesting entry on one of my favorite blogs, Media Lies, the other day entitled:Living in the Looney Bin. This was based on his reading of the Iraqi Perspective's Project.

Life in Iraq began to take on a bizarre nature after the Gulf War of 1991. Contrary to logic and reason, Saddam began to fear a coup or overthrow much more than international pressure. While outwardly acting as though he was continuing a WMD program, he privately admitted that the program had been severely curtailed as a result of the war and the subsequent inspections.

Yet his pronouncements on the subject, even to his closest advisors, were so confusing and contradictory that not even they really knew for sure what was going on. Furthermore, Saddam splintered security even further, creating ever more rings of protection around himself and subjecting even his most trusted advisors to the constant scrutiny of the intelligence services.

The intelligence services were even spying on themselves, to the point that one officer complained that they would never have enough spies to spy on all the spies! By the time Operation Iraqi Freedom began, the situation in Iraq had deteriorated to the point that no one in Iraq knew what was true or what was untrue, and many believed the lies that were being routinely told.

Even worse, Saddam made it very clear that he did not want to hear bad news of any kind. (Bearers of bad news were often killed or thrown in prison.) The willingness to lie, to tell Saddam good news even when the opposite was true, became so pervasive that no one, not even Saddam, knew for certain what was true any more. (Anyone who might have known certainly wasn't going to say so publicly.)

Thus Iraq arrived at this bizarre conclusion.
For many months after the 2003 war, a number of senior Iraqi officials continued to believe it possible (though they adamantly insisted they possessed no direct knowledge) that Iraq still possessed a WMD capability hidden away somewhere. In addition to Saddam's purposeful ambiguity on the issue, coalition interviewers discovered three other mutually reinforcing ideas as to why this possibility might be true:
Iraq possessed and used WMD in the past. Given the growing danger from Iran's emerging WMD program, Iraq would likely need them again.
While none of the Iraqi officials admitted to personally knowing of WMD stockpiles, the idea that in a compartmentalized and secretive regime other military units or organizations might have WMD was plausible to them.<'li>
Finally, and ironically, the public confidence of so many Western governments, especially based on CIA information, made at least one senior official believe the contention that Iraq possessed such weapons might be true.17
It should come as no surprise then that world leaders and their intelligence agencies believed that Iraq still had an active WMD program. In fact, even now no one can be certain that they didn't. (The only thing we know for certain is that Saddam had every intention of ramping the program back up as soon as the sanctions were lifted, which he fully expect France and Russia to help him do.)

Rumor has it that Saddam spirited away tons of chemical weapons to Syria right before the war. There is even corroborating evidence to buttress the claim. There is equal evidence that it is untrue, and Syria denies it (for what little that is worth.)

We may never know whether or not Saddam still had WMD when we invaded. There isn't anyone inside Iraq whose word we could trust because even they don't know for certain.

To criticize the administration, then, for not knowing, or for lying about Iraq's WMD programs, ignores the facts. The adamant claims of those who seem certain that Iraq did not possess any WMD on the eve of the war are just as uncertain (and based on equally as confusing and contradictory "evidence") as the adamant claims that Iraq did have WMD. Neither position is provable or disprovable, even inside Iraq!

http://www.antimedia.us/


75 posted on 04/22/2006 7:48:00 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: eyespysomething

I just have this nagging thought that we have been given a tool with these prewardocs. Notice all the progress that has been made with the civil empowerment, ie., Patriot Guard Riders, Minutement, Pajamahydden, Bloggers, (whomever I didn't think of off the top of my head). Now, I think we were given the tools for the next step. Fighting the left on their turf, legal grounds.


76 posted on 04/22/2006 7:49:38 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

freepmail


77 posted on 04/22/2006 7:50:01 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Alamo-Girl

I forgot to ping you to this yesterday. This fits right in with your writings on Malik

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1619461/posts?page=64#64

You need to manually clip and save that article. NJ has gotten more strict with copyright laws for posting to boards and they purge Net access after 2 weeks.


78 posted on 04/22/2006 7:51:51 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

You're right, and another one was/is the Swift Boat Vets.

We have been handed tools to use. It's why the left needs to control the internet and reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. They really really want to shut us up!

Well, the more great hosts such as Tony Snow, Bryan Suits, Brit Hume and others mention items we talk about, the more people will know, and as more people know, more people will spread the truth.

I wonder when 60 Min. will have jveritas on? LOL!


79 posted on 04/22/2006 7:54:31 AM PDT by eyespysomething (American liberals like everything about the struggle for freedom except the struggle.)
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To: Calpernia

Perhaps. Was it refined Anthrax of just cultures.

From what I've read the Anthrax powder that was mailed was highly refined and so called "weapon grade" anthrax, different from lab cultures etc.

But I'm no expert. Making highly refined anthrax is very difficult from what I've read. Requires very specialized labs.


80 posted on 04/22/2006 7:56:04 AM PDT by garyhope
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