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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 16 April 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 16 April 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 04/16/2006 5:08:19 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, April 16th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., and Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Mark Everson.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Joan Chittister, executive director, Center for Contemporary Spirituality; Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, Tikkun Magazine; Jon Meacham, managing editor, Newsweek; Seyyed Hossein Nasr, professor of Islamic studies, George Washington University; Rev. Richard John Neuhaus, editor, First Things; Joel Osteen, senior pastor, Lakewood Church.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson and Sen. George Allen, R-Va.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Evan Bayh, D-Ind.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Samir Sumaidaie, Iraqi ambassador to the U.S. ; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.; former Secretary of State Kissinger; retired Army Brig. Gen. David Grange; Rev. Jerry Falwell..


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: easter; facethenation; falwell; foxnewssunday; georgeallen; guests; joelosteen; lateedition; lineup; meetthepress; michaellerner; neuhaus; sunday; talkshows; thisweek
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To: FreeReign
I was given 2 chocolate bunnies for Easter I definitely think after that photo I will leave eating them till later


521 posted on 04/16/2006 12:04:09 PM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: rodguy911

Wow, Mc handling Dowd... I have to get that file.


522 posted on 04/16/2006 12:08:07 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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To: don-o
you can have women priests. Join the Episcopalians. Or start your own denomination. You are free to do so. But, the Catholic and Orthodox churches can't ordain women. They would cease to be, at a very deep and mysterious level, what they have historically claimed to be.

ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding

This is the part of controversies like this that I always have trouble with.  "Being Catholic" has always meant to me buying the whole bit, papal infallability, trans substantiation, etcetera, etcetera.  There are plenty of others houses in which to worship if you disagree.  Don't make the Catholic church change to match your beliefs if they differ from what the Catholic church says its beliefs are.

Now, having said that, I agree that there is a place within any community, the Catholic church included, for discussion of such issues.  The church (should that be capitalized?) has been doing this since day one.  It's where the great dialogues and amazing writings came from and the church has modified it's position on any number of issues, over time.  But to claim that a "protest" should suffice to get the church, any church, to change fundamental beliefs strikes me as silly and counterproductive.

Everyone should read people like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas.  And I have just begun to discover the wonderful body of work by Pope John Paul II.  I'm not a Catholic.  In fact I don't belong to any church (bad experiences with churches on both the right and the left in my younger days, so I'm very cynical about institutions run by men), but I take great joy when I find beautifully written and well thought out arguments on the great questions.

Of course, I also really like my Heinlein.

Blessed Easter to all.

523 posted on 04/16/2006 12:08:31 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: snugs
I was given 2 chocolate bunnies for Easter I definitely think after that photo I will leave eating them till later

Sorry for the upset. :)

524 posted on 04/16/2006 12:11:09 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: don-o; marajade

On this blessed Easter... I must warn you; If you want the truth, you will have it... in fact, you're asking for it right now. This will be a thread... and I would be humbled and grateful by you and don-o being there. Will freepmail you both tomorrow.


525 posted on 04/16/2006 12:12:00 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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To: rockrr
And then gives the same to Mara and Juan for good measure!

Did you hear Brit call Juan Williams "Juany?"

Sounded exactly like "whiny."  Even though Brit was agreeing with what Juan had just said I just about shouted for joy. 

526 posted on 04/16/2006 12:13:46 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok

Wow, I don't believe I missed that... any ideas where I can catch it on a site?


527 posted on 04/16/2006 12:15:34 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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To: marajade

Oh... you choose. Okay.


528 posted on 04/16/2006 12:16:04 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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To: eeevil conservative

ROFL


529 posted on 04/16/2006 12:16:56 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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To: FreeReign
LOL. Don't worry I have already eaten some chocolate liqueur eggs so it will not hurt to wait till later.
530 posted on 04/16/2006 12:17:32 PM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: AliVeritas; All
I Have Seen the Enemy

Why do you people not tell our story? Why do you not say what is going on? Why do you come to our country and see what is happening, you see the schools and the hospitals and you see the markets and you eat with Sunni and Shia soldiers – everybody eats together, everybody works together –you see that Saddam is gone forever and we are free to speak and complain.

You see we are working and eating together and fighting together – Sunni and Shia – you see what we are building here, you see the votes we make as one people. Then you say to the world about a great war and horrible things and how we are all killing each other? We are not animals! We are Iraqis. Look around you! Look!

531 posted on 04/16/2006 12:18:24 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (I'm not racist- I'm an Equal Opportunity Enemy of ALL LAWBREAKING, TAX DODGING, FENCE CLIMBERS!)
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To: Phsstpok

So now, The Military, another example of something the Clintons touched and corrupted. Everything these people touched they corrupted.


532 posted on 04/16/2006 12:18:43 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The Democrat Party. For those who value slogans over solutions.)
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To: Txsleuth

Because it not about facts. It about the Pat Buchannaites venting cause their boy got less then 1% of the vote while Bush won in 2000. Either that or they are knowingly acting as Virtual Campaigners for the DNC. Either way the Always Whining crowd is not worth your time


533 posted on 04/16/2006 12:20:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The Democrat Party. For those who value slogans over solutions.)
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To: FreeReign

Good Point. However, hopefull this time we will get some real action out of DC. Will not be perfect but if NOTHING gets done, 5 years from now we will still be talking about it and it will be 30 million illegals. The people who care about this issue should tone down the 100%erism. If the Status Quo stays in place, the Illegals and the Left win. We need some steps taken. I think we will see something. May not be perfect but it will be better then the nothing we got now.


534 posted on 04/16/2006 12:23:08 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The Democrat Party. For those who value slogans over solutions.)
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To: Phsstpok
FINALLY, I have found a kindred spirit re: Church.

I don't belong to a church, or any organized "religion"...for the same reasons as you.

I have had some very bad experiences in the past..and they were all from different denominations...as I was searching to find one where I "fit"...

I have decided I am the square peg that just won't fit into the round hole of "organized religion".

Like you, that doesn't keep me from being a voracious reader and admirer of books and authors of and about religion.

I consider myself a reader, student and believer.
535 posted on 04/16/2006 12:23:44 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Phsstpok
The church (should that be capitalized?) has been doing this since day one. It's where the great dialogues and amazing writings came from and the church has modified it's position on any number of issues, over time.

Sadly, few Christians take the time and effort to learn of our heritage. The Ecumenical Councils (Orthodox claim 7 - Rome has more) are fascinating and vital reading to get a grip on what the Christian faith is.

Take the Arian heresy. Almost overtook the Church. Had the East in thrall. (Jesus was a created being.) That's still an alive belief - JW's I know. Maybe the LDS (not sure on that). But, in 325 at the Council of Nicea, that nonsense was anathematized.

There is a deep history that one can learn of. Don't need to take someone elses word for it. Close as your favorite search engine, as a matter of fact.

There are "issues" that can be a matter for debate. Have been settled. Ordaining women to preisthood is not one of those. Never will be.

536 posted on 04/16/2006 12:26:09 PM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

marking this spot...need a bite to eat...


537 posted on 04/16/2006 12:30:46 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (I'm not racist- I'm an Equal Opportunity Enemy of ALL LAWBREAKING, TAX DODGING, FENCE CLIMBERS!)
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To: AliVeritas; samantha
The libs have drug out another who dissents, heads up.

No doubt being groomed by the DNC for a political position or campaign. However, I looked up Marysville and its north of Seattle in deep blue country. Not much to worry about unless he runs for a statewide office.

538 posted on 04/16/2006 12:34:50 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: eeevil conservative
they are running from Bush- but because they don't realize that his poll number convey not that Bush is too far right-- but becasue Bush is leaving his base and moving left...not staying STRONG on certain areas and issues...

I've been saying for some time now that I believe that we will pick up seats in both the House and Senate this fall, not lose them.  I base this in part on just being a contrarian, always inclined to go against the conventional wisdom just because it is the conventional wisdom (and I'm right more than I'm wrong when I do that).  I also base this in a belief that there are Republicans who get the point you are making.  We get the "Bush is bad" RINOs plastered all over the MSM and think that is the dominant portion of the Republicans in the race.  Those who get it and say so are caricatured as NAZIs and racists.

But then you have performances like Newt Gingrich's on Fox News Sunday today.  He was hitting on all cylinders.  I kept thinking that the White House should hire him as their Congressional liaison or as the strategy person for the fall elections.  He gets it.  And he's not alone.

I think you've encapsulated the issue here very well.  I personally have faith that President Bush, on a fundamental level, gets it as well.  I'm hoping the president will come out specifically emphasizing the border security portion of immigration reform after Congress gets back to town and push for a commitment to the broader reform dealing with those already here, perhaps by providing a sunset provision to the law, in order to separate the emotional from the necessary.  It would blow the Democrats out of the water and it would start what I think would be an unstoppable march to victory in November.

539 posted on 04/16/2006 12:35:51 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: don-o

Well said.

Lord give me patience and understanding.


540 posted on 04/16/2006 12:35:52 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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